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"I am personally for same-sex marriage, but I also think that Religion shouldn't be used to argue against same-sex marriage, It's probably one of the worst things you can use. Don't you guys think it's convenient that people never mention how there was a time when religion was used to justify discriminating against blacks, ban interracial marriage, and restrict the rights of women. In fact, I could pull a quote from the bible that can be used to say that women are the property of their husbands. Yet as these views changed over time to fit with societies views, and the same thing will probably happen with gay marriage."
"Separation of church and state"
"@ KEn M,Re: you claim: "I always argue against same sex marriage based on secular ideals like equality and discrimination."That's odd since arguing AGAINST equal marriage is arguing against equality and FOR discrimination.I'd have that looked at if I were you."
"I agree! The Bible is useful when preaching to the choir, but carries very little weight with us non-believers. This is why I always argue against same sex marriage based on secular ideals like equality and discrimination."
"I don't see why they can't get marriedI am 14 and I am gay and everyday in school I get called a f****t and I am treated like I am not even human But I have a question for you How am I any different?I go to school I eat food and I love peoplelove is love and just because I love girls and not guys doesn't mean I am strangeI don't care about the bibleJust becuse the bible has one or two verses in it that says it is wrong doesn't mean you have to listenWant to know what else the bible says?The bible supports slaverythe bible is sexistthe bible forbids you from eating seafood and hamthe bible says you can't get a divorcethe bible says you can't get rounded haircutsthe bible forbids women from helping their husbands in a fightthe bible forbids blended fabric which is what most clothes are made ofI bet you don't agree with at least one of those points so why do you use the bible as an excuseI am 14, Gay, and an American Citizen I HAVE RIGHTS!!!!"
"Yes you do have RIGHTS!! Even though you cant vote and do a lt of things until yu are 18. You have all the rights in the world. So called church going people that are closed mined would still have women doing what women do. But they dont understand that times have changed and ALL HUMANS haveTHE RIGHT TO MARRY WHOM EVER. I wounder how many closed minded people think that peole that love differtly can change who their are ment to be? Lets as them if the tides were changed and this as about stright people getting married would we be fighting over this issue? Let as the closed minded stright people what would yu do if our govermet told you you couldnt marry the person you love because you dont like the same gender? Would you put up a fight? If all that are married that you found out it was no longer married to that person you though you were? Maybe the goverment shouldnt let ANYONE BE MARRIED. Then what the HUMAN RACE DO? Lets think about that one for a second."
"You stay strong! I am 13, and bisexual. I completely agree with you."
"For the non-choir: Can we stop the crap about the bible? Moses also said that a woman can't wear that which pertains to a man. That you can't eat pork or wear polyester. That if your kid utters a swear word to his parent that you're supposed to stone him to death in public. That you're supposed to bury your leftovers after 3 days. Moses said those things because he needed to establish a difference between the Canaanites and the freed slaves so that people who came into contact with them would know that they are Jews, not Canaanites. It's right there in your book, homosexuality isn't an abomination in the eyes of god, it's an abomination to the purity of the new nation of Israel. And can we drop this horse hockers stuff about homosexuality not being natural? If it occurs in nature, it's natural, and guess what? So far, we've observed gay behavior in almost 500 species. Look this stuff up, don't take my word for it. Finally, can we stop looking at sexual behaviors and start looking at love? How can any good person with a soul proclaim that love should be illegal? And doesn't that answer its own question?"
"Frank, why did you write a pro comment in the con column?"
"It clearly states in the United States Constitution that religion should not and can not be brought into the modern day government"
"I agree! Religious arguments are good when preaching to the choir, but carry very little weight when arguing with secular opponents. This is why I always argue against same sex marriage in terms of discrimination and equality."
"Your leading questions will not convince anybody. Homosexuality of mamals unnatural? Believers with no soul? Love illegal?Nobody sees a condemnable crime in being gay or lesbian and marriage is so much more than love. Gay marriage is just a selfish challenge for society and an unmature provocation for believers."
"I don't know whether you meant to put this in the con section or not, but I appreciate it. You gave people who wouldn't read logical arguments against their view a chance to know new things. :)"
"Frank, Your argument will never be successful. Religious people will never "stop the crap about the bible" because they will always view the world in religious terms. Secular people will always view the world in secular terms. You will have more luck trying to convince the sun not to come up tomorrow morning. As for homosexuality not being natural, well, god makes lots of little mistakes. None of us is perfect. Fortunately, enough of us get together to reproduce that the human species manages to continue. This is a good thing. It is also why we reward opposite sex marriage, to encourage people to reproduce. Finally, "can we start looking at love?" Love is already legal. There is no law against emotional relationships. We are talking about marriage and marriage benefits (money). Love is not marriage and marriage is not love. Please focus on the subject and stop venting all of your insecurities."
"So your wife doesn't eat pork or wear polyester because if she does, she's basic and im sure is unappealing. The world has changed since the bible was created. Why would you live your life by someone else? I know God is God but he only wants his people to be happy."
"Hey Frank,Mosaic law ended with Christ. Read your Bible before you comment next time, dude!"
"For over 15 years I've had "significant other" benefits in the workplace. That was not anywhere near as controversial. Why? The label. Instead of using the word spouse, implying a traditional marital arrangement, new terminology was adopted. Ancient Rome and other societies used multiple labels to signify different types of unions. Why do we have to limit ourselves to a single word that has so much tradition and emotion attached to it? When I got married, I had to submit my state form to be united under the state and have ceremonies in two separate religions so both would recognize my marriage. Why can't we just give the state union a new label and allow each religion to define their own rules for their form of marriage? Each religion could decide if they want to require a state union or not, so you could have a state union and one or more religious unions, just a state union, or even just a religious union without a state union. I am not Catholic, nor is my wife. We were not married in the Catholic religion. Our marriage is not recognized as a Catholic marriage. What I propose is not really a change in anything, except the labels being used. Having a single label for what is really multiple things has made everything confusing."
"HaPa,You, like way too many others, have confused the terminology. The "state union" is called civil marriage. The "church union" is called "the rite of holy matrimony". Your "church marriages" are not marriages, and the religious ritual(s) performed in those churches - by themselves - do NOT grant you "the effects that flow from marriage".NOI performance of ANY religious ritual makes a couple legally married- anywhere in the US. (You could look this up. I did.)Sorry, but it seems that it is ONLY religionists who make this mistake."
"Marriage is fundamentally a civil arrangement: there is no prohibition against heterosexual atheists getting married by a justice of the peace. Those who desire a religious ceremony when they marry are, of course, free to do so, but religion's role is dependent only on the beliefs and wishes of the couple getting married. They may reject it completely. Remove religious beliefs from the conversation about marriage and there is no plausible argument against gay marriage. None. Just as there is no plausible argument against interracial marriage. So, everyone needs to just enjoy their relationships and accept the fact that other people's marriages in no way detract from theirs or interfere with the core beliefs that determine how they decide to live their lives. It's time to give everyone else the same consideration that you would expect."
"You are being very ignorant my friend. No plausible argument besides religion? How about it goes against nature? How about it doesn't make sense of a man's and woman's private parts? How about maybe homosexuality is just a fetish that perverted people need to keep to themselves? How about the child's right to be brought into the world by a MOTHER and a FATHER just like you have been? You pro homo's need to stop making us look like the guys ruining all the fun, we're trying to save you slackers from embarrassment in the future. Why do you hate religion so much anyway? All I see in religion is morals and ethics, things that we wouldn't even be here without. And for some reason the whole worlds blaming everything on religion and trying to destroy it. I don't see people making a big fuss over that? Look at the bigger picture mate, grow up."
"I agree with you completely, as long as religions are not forced to perform marriages that they disagree with, and as long as people with those same religious convictions are not forced to provide support for something their religion states is wrong. For example, bakers. It is ridiculous to try to force someone to bake a cake to be used in a ceremony that they are opposed to based on their religion. Get your cake from someone who sees the value in your dollar and values and wants to support you. That is fair and common sense. Your inability to get a cake at a certain store is not a violation of your rights, you should not be able to force anyone to violate their own values. To each his own, right? And everyone enjoy what they have without forcing anyone else to comply with values they don't agree with."
"it doesn't matter on what type of sex you are as long as their is love the should not be a problem with gay marriage"
"Ken,Re: "We give marriage benefits to encourage child bearing,:We ALSO give benefits to non-child-bearing heterosexuals."
"We do not give marriage benefits to encourage love. We have lovers who are not married and married people who are not in love. We give marriage benefits to encourage child bearing, not to promote love or any type of sexuality."
"gay marriage should be legal everywhere WHO DOESN'T LIKE ELLEN DEGENERES"
"This is a logical fallacy. You are stating something is true because someone famous thinks it's true. And just because someone is guy does not mean we do not like them. Thank you."
"There alot more gay celebrities and people still like them!"
"Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve? Well, I don't know, Adam and Steve look kinda cute together"
"There are almost 210 million orphaned childre in the entire world. Gay couples can't have children, they can adopt these children"
"Who the hell are you to tell someone they can't love another person?"
"I am not telling people that they cannot love someone, I am telling people that they cannot marry a member of their sex. Love is not marriage and marriage is not love. You miss the point."
"Im PRO because my family deserves all of the recognition that other families have! I love my moms!"
"If you can be happy, why shouldn't gays????"
"I think gay marriage should be legal because it shouldn't matter if i guy marries a guy or a woman marries a woman it just matters if they love each other."
"Love is Love. It's as simple as that. I'm a christian and I believe that Jesus taught us to love others and not judge them. Same-sex marriages should be allowed because marriage is a right that should be granted to all. For those saying they want to strengthen marriage, then why don't we get rid of no-fault divorces? Or if the purpose of marriage is for reproduction, then should we not allow infertile couples or the aging to marry?? (Levy, Robert) Research has already shown that " Massachusetts, which became the first state to legalize gay marriage in 2004, had the lowest divorce rate in the country in 2008." (Procon.org) Honestly, all should be allowed to get married. Rather it be a civil marriage (because civil unions just don't cut it- separate but equal is not legal) or a traditional marriage. Though I do believe that churches should not be forced to marry couples, but all human beings should be allowed to get married."
"Good morningWhat we discuss its what we cover relation between man with manIts shoking"
"I am a Christian and I do believe in God. However, I don't understand why it's wrong to be married to the same gender. Yes, the Bible says its a sin, but why? We can't control our feelings, especially when falling in love. So if you fall in love with someone the same gender as you, and you can't control it, it's still a sin? I don't understand that.."
"I am not against gay marriage, but here is the problem with your argument. Feelings of 'love' are not always ok to act on. For example, if your stepfather 'loved' you when you were 4, does this excuse his molestation of you, is it ok then? Or if a male sees a woman he finds intensely sexually attractive, does his feelings allow him to drug and rape her? Of course not. Shall we then say, "If you fall in love with a child or a woman who does not want to have sex with you, and you can't control it, it's still a sin? Of course not. Feelings are irrelevant. If you are going to argue for gay marriage, and you should, you can't base your argument on feelings of love."
"People fall in love with drugs, gambling, etc. etc, anything that brings pleasure. Homosexuality is like alcoholism. There may be a predisposition from birth, but it is up to the individual to take a drink and up to the individual to decide not to. People have all kinds of impulses that they shouldn't act on. Being in love is sexual attraction, not love itself. Sex isn't the same as love. You are right that we can't control our feelings, but we definitely can control obsessing over certain thoughts and desires and definitely can control our actions.Partly it is a sin because it destroys God's symbolism of Christ and the Church as the groom and bride, completely different in form and function and leadership and voluntary submission. You destroy that symbolic picture completely with that sin. The action causes disease. God only wants our best, our good. Homosexuality isn't that. It will hurt those who participate in it. When a person accepts Christ, they no longer define themselves in terms of their impulses and desires, they are new creations, the old has passed away.Believe me, it is evil. I was harassed at work by a gang of homosexuals who knew I was a christian. There was a lesbian gang rape in the area as well."
"I learned about something a few days ago that was quite interesting. apparently some researchers in Israel conducted a study where they took 89 moms and straight dads and 48 gay dads. Using MRI scans, they found out that gay men actually can fill the role of both the mother and the father. if you want the full details of it, go to medicaldaily and search "Gay Dads Are Just As Suited As Straight Parents To Raise A Child, According To Their Biology"."
"If you look superficially enough to one thing, it will become the same und equal to all other things."
"i am pro because everybody deserves the chase to be with who they love and to commit just like a man and woman can. just because two people love each other of the same sex does not mean their love is not real. everybody deserves the chance to be happy. I do not understand how some people can be so rude to people. gay people can not help who they love."
"@ Ken M,Re: "We give marriage benefits to promote child-birth."We give them to the infertile as well as the fecund.Get a better argument."
"We do not give marriage benefits because people are in love. We have lovers that are not married, and married people who are not in love. We give marriage benefits to promote child-birth. Opposite sex couples have more children on average than same sex couples or single people. This is why we have marriage in the first place."
""A child needs a mom and a dad!" So you're saying single parents can't raise their children?"A marriage needs to produce a child!" Are you insinuating that infertile woman cannot marry?"Well God says it's wrong!" Well, actually, if you read it in context with the rest of the chapter, no, he didn't. and there are religions against marriage in general, including straight marriage, but are we going to make that illegal too?"
"You make three arguments.I say I agree, disagree, and you are wrong to your three arguments. A child does not have to have a mother and a father role-model, but it does help. Marriage does not need to produce children, but we do give marriage benefits to promote child production. The bible does say that homosexuality is wrong. Beware that Religion will never promote same sex marriage. Most member of any Religion are born and raised into that religion. Few people are converted into any religion. Therefore Religion has a vested interest in promoting productivity in their adherents. Just as religious arguments do not work well on secular people, secular arguments do not work well on religious people. Its a matter of faith."
"The only Con comments I've seen (with the exception of two or three) have been revolving around religion or the production of a child, my first point, religions exist that are against marriage period (including heterosexual) but yet that is legal, because religion should not get in the way of love, and if the only point of marriage is to produce a child then do you stand saying that infertile woman can not be wed? How DARE you make such a preposterous statement?! and how DARE you try to dictate who people shall and shall not love?"
"Religious groups that oppose marriage generally don't last long, because child-birth and being raised in a religion is the primary way that religions propagate. We do not say that a couple must be fertile to wed. We say that opposite sex couples are the most likely to produce a child. Are you trying to say that specific, targeted benefits are a better idea than group benefits? That argument would work against same sex couples too. We also do not try to dictate who people can and cannot love. There is no law against that. We oppose giving marriage benefits to those that are unlikely to produce many children"
"ALL PEOPLE ARE EQUAL AND GOD LOVES US ALL. EVERYONE DESEVES TO BE LOVED AND PRONOUNCE THEYRE LOVE TO THE WORLD!!!"
"God loves those who respect God and uphold the way God intended us to live. When you commit sodomy and promote homosexuality, I don't think you are respecting the human body you have been blessed with and the way it was intended for you to use it. Think correctly Julia, you can't do the wrong thing by natural law, let alone ignore God saying that homosexuality and sodomy is forbidden, and then say "GOD LOVES ME!" don't waste your whole life being that ignorant... it makes me sad it really does..."
"One does not need to be married in order to be loved or to announce their love to the world."
"its a part of the constitution and everyone should have equal rights (:"
"Gay marriage should be legalized. Screw the religious stuff, screw "man and woman", screw all of these made up excuses! If being gay is so wrong, then why does it happen in nature? In other SPECIES? I mean, come on people, wake up! Gay marriage is the SAME THING as straight marriage, it just has the same gender. I'm bisexual, but does my family care? No. My friends? No. Because it is not wrong, it's nature, and you can't go against nature."
"Ken, you're just wrong. You don't agree with religious arguments holding weight with regards to marriage yet in the same hand you're saying that our marriages don't benefit society. People who don't desire to have children also get married so really that argument falls flat on its face. Not only that, but the sole goal of marriage shouldn't be popping out as many children as possible. Marriage is about trust and respect, not procreating just for the sake of it."
"I disagree! I agree that the religious argument carries very little weight with a non-religious person like my self, but I disagree when you say that same sex marriage is the same as opposite sex marriage. The difference is that opposite sex marriage produces more children. This is the reason that we have marriage benefits in the first place, to encourage productivity."
"YOU SHOULD NEVER BE DENIED TO LOVE WHO YOU LOVE!! You are you and no one can change that <3"
"Marriage is a human right---not a heterosexual privilege."
"Marriage is an agreement with the opposite sex to start a family from the ground up, not an agreement with the same sex to take it up the b-hole and pay someone else to give birth to your "baby" just cos you think what you're doing is normal. Ridiculous."
"I have never seen marriage listed as a human right before, whether it is heterosexual or homosexual."
"Homosexuality exists in over 300 species and yet we are the ONLY ones with homophobia. Think about that,"
"Dear Sid,marriage is an important institution in human development and we are the ONLY ones with a CIVILASATION. Is this a problem for you?"
"Yes, it should be legal and why not without them the world would be boring. Everyone has the right to love and what have they done to bother people that are against it. I think that the ones that oppose gay marriages should just take what they have to say and shut up because what if they were dating the opposite sex and everyone thought that it was not right. I agree that it says that it is in the Bible that you are not allowed to have sexual relationships with the same sex and that is why God had made 1 man and 1 women because there are different religions all over the world and that this country, the United States wasn't built on the Bible. There shouldn't be a debate on this topic because the people who are gay haven't done or said anything to the people who oppose."
"LOVE IS LOVE........ POINT BLANK IF YOU CAN MARRY SOMEONE OF THE OPPOSITE GENDER THAN SOMEONE CAN MARRY SOMEONE OF THE SAME GENDER"
"I BELIEVE THAT MARRIAGE ISNT BETWEEN MAN AND WOMAN, BUT BETWEEN LOVE AND LOVE"
"We as humans have the right to marry anyone we want to to love anyone we want and to live lie as we all see fit. So why is it the states making a big deal out same sex marriage when there isnt anything that doesnt say two people can no get married. We has humans have the basice needs in ife and one of them is to love and lve whom we love. You can not tell your heart whom to fall for and whom not to fall for lets face we all have the SAME RIGHTS! In life so what makes this any diffrent? People need to open outtheir eyes and see this is a totally diffrent time then and things need to change. Just like we done in the past. So leave the bibe crape out of it and just pass the law so anyone can marry anyone. That is how it shou ld have been in th first place! But law makers what to do what thecan to drag their feetr as long as they can. But sooner or latter the same sex marriage will become in all 50 sates. Just have to waiit. Like the blacks, and the indians did to become seen as a human themself. remember they werent like at all and they even had to fight right and even woman had to fight fro rights. And look a tall of us now."
"Yes any human that is of age should be to be able marriage as long athey are in total agrement. And not been forced into. I do not see why the stright people have an issues about it. It isnt like they are going to marry th same sex. Their isnt anythhing in our laws books that say no human can be married. I really dont see the harm in the same sex marriage. The stright people that dont have open minds have rights in this matter. And the the god people out there that is judging you have no right to judge people because you ae commiting a crme by your GOD think about one! So if people what to do something that they want in this world are stupid people like the ones that are in office to help the people get whast tey want then why do you do that as long as it is hurting anyone. And same sex marriage isnt hurting anyone! The gay people are going anywhere they are here to stay! So when will the e seen as people? This could classife as a hate crime because people hate to see this take place It is a mental hate crime in my eyes. People have to fight for somethhing that should be already in hand for them to have."
"@ Ken M.,Re: "I merely do not want to use our group money to reward marriages that are not likely to produce children."And yet you do precisely that. As does every other taxpayer. Because we are ALL part of that "group".You keep typing, "I, as a taxpayer, have to pay for those benefits." but ignore that we are ALL taxpayers."
"Justice, You say that anyone who is of age should be allowed to marry. Does this include siblings and first cousins? You say that "there isn't anything in our law books that say no human can be married," but there are restrictions on same sex marriage, sibling marriage, and child marriage. You complain about the GOD people judging you, but I am not a GOD person. I am agnostic. I am not judging you, I merely do not want to use our group money to reward marriages that are not likely to produce children. You say same sex marriage isn't hurting anyone. I disagree. When our tax dollars are used to fund marriage benefits, I, as a taxpayer, have to pay for those benefits. This is a cost to me. Therefore, I have standing to legally oppose same sex marriage. It hurts me monetarily."
"If gay marriage isn't hurting anyone, why is it illegal? I have no problem with religion until it starts hurting others. Everyone should be allowed to love who they want without any obstacles."
"Because I believe in equality. Our government was founded on FREEDOM and having someone turned away from marriage is the complete opposite of freedom."
"Isn't it interesting that a country founded to allow freedom from religious persecution is now using religion to persecute freedoms?"
"Denying gays marriage is disgusting. Why on earth would anyone want to deny someone their rights? Their life? Their liberty? Their pursuit of happiness? If an individual finds their life to lie in the hands of another individual of the same gender or they feel liberated in the arms of someone of their same gender or they feel the awestruck wonder of happiness in the heart of someone their same gender, then NO ONE can deny them that! Besides, being gay is not an option; no one "chooses" to "become" gay. One is born how one is born. You didn't choose the color of your hair color or the nationality from which you derive from. You can lie and say you're Asian, when you're Polish, but that won't make you Asian. You can dye your hair diverse colors, but biologically it will always be the same. You can't electro-shock a Cuban until they become Irish, so why would you do that to a Gay to make them "become" straight? You can't cure or "pray the gay away" because - just like hair color or nationality - it's not a choice! To those religious who argue that "Well the Bible says not to be gay", well, I read the Bible too, so you know what else it says? Love as Jesus as He loved you. That means love ALL! Quit being a hypocrite, love everyone."
"Have you ever read the bill of rights it is the rights that all people have and no where do i see that it is ok for same sex or heterosexual to be married i so sick of hearing from not just Gays but anybody who uses my rights as an excuse for justifying their wrong doing's."
"I disagree. This argument is about marriage benefits - MONEY. No one argues for the title of "married" except to get the benefits. The money. Homosexuality, sodomy, and living with a member of the same or the opposite sex are already legal. This is about the money. Why do you not wish to provide marriage benefits to me as a single person? are you a closet mono-phobe? Do you have something against single people? I always wanted to use that term, monophobe, in an argument. I am happier already. Doesn't it suck, being called a monophobe, even though it has nothing to do with your argument or theirs?"
"Has anyone realized that NOT EVERYONE has the same religion, or any religion at all? The number 1 reason for most of the con people is that "God and the Bible are against gay marriage." Well, not everyone believes in God or reads the Bible!! I'm not saying that all gay people don't believe in god, but religion is NOT A GOOD REASON to use against gay marriage."
"I am raised in a home without a dad. I am basically a good person. My mom does a great job caring for me. Two moms or two dads could raise a kid well together. Look at Neil Patrick Harris and his husband. Their kids are great. And love is love. Also, for Christians, why would you discard everything other law in the first five books except the same sex marriage law?"
"God never said that you people could never be toghter he just said married so just dont take what you have for granted."
"Yes, the bible clearly states gay marriage is a sin, yes I'm a Christian, yes I support gay marriage, sometimes I think people should put their feet in other peoples shoes and see how it'd feel not being able to marry someone they love and want to be with. If gay marriage is not legalized the gay couple will still be together but won't marry. So why not let them be happy?"
"Everyone should have the right to be able to show the world how much they love someone."
"I disagree with your argument. Everyone already has the right to show the world how much they love someone. You don;t need gay marriage to do that."
"I believe gay marriage should be aloud because, why dose it matter to you who someone Marries. Would you want to be ridiculed and mocked for being you. Gay or lesbian I believe gay marriage should be aloud no matter what others think or say."
"Ken once again you're incorrect. It doesn't matter if you support it not because it's a civil right. Cohabiting and actually living are two separate things. By your logic we should simply not allow any minority we don't like to get married in this country. You may not like our relationships but your disgust isn't a valid reason to strip someone of their civil rights."
"I disagree with you argument. It does matter to me when people want the right to marry because they want the economic benefits of marriage. This argument is about money. Same sex couples have the right to cohabit and have physical and emotional relationships. People only ask for the title of marriage because they want the monetary benefits of marriage, such as spousal health care and lower couples tax rates. When I have to fund those benefits with my tax dollars, then it matters to me."
"LOVE IS LOVE! Stop being judgmental people. You are being cruel by saying its a sin. I AM CHRISTIAN! But there are rules in the bible we choose to ignore- obviously not murder and stealing, etc. But this....? Remember how interracial couples were seen as wrong- you watch in the future- all of you against will be wrong. Bible this- Bible that- shame on you. God would be ashamed. Hey, you have freedom of speech, religion, ect. think what you want! But also think about the people your hurting in the process. In the future you'll look back and say, " Why was I that stupid, cruel and hurtful. ALL PEOPLE SHOULD BE TREATED EQUALLY. And I was wrong to judge them harshly...""
"Gay marriage should be legal for many reasons. First of all, a same sex couple deserves to get married out of love for one another just like a heterosexual couple should. Second of all, the fact that heterosexual couples get tax benefits and others of marriage and same sex couples cannot shows theres a discrimination that should be unconstitutional under the equal protection clause. There was a time in this country when African Americans and Whites couldn't get married but that was unconstitutional in Love v Virginia. Its sickening that this country which is supposed to be the beacon of freedom still persecutes these individuals."
"You argue for equality for same sex couples, but you propose marriage benefits for couples only and not for single people. you should try proposing a solution that provides equality for ALL Americans, not just couples. You say not allowing same sex couples to marry is discriminatory, but the exact opposite is true.Discrimination is not a synonym for inequality. Discrimination requires inequality and the group receiving benefits not do anything to earn those benefits. Opposite sex couples earn their benefits by producing more children than single people or same sex couples. This is not to say that all opposite sex couples produce children or that single people and same sex couples do not produce any children. Opposite sex couples just produce the most children on average. Because they earn their benefits, "opposite sex marriage only" is NOT discriminatory. What you support, marriage for all couples, is discriminatory because they ARE a couple. Are denotes state of being not something that one produces to earn benefits. You support same sex marriage because of equality and discrimination, yet you propose a solution that accomplishes exactly the opposite."
"I think Gay marriage should be legal because when you find that right person that you want to spend the rest of your life with nobody should be able to stop you. It's YOUR life YOUR choice."
"This is part of what i wrote for my english essay.Unwanted and teen pregnancy has greatly increased the number of kids in the "system". Allowing same-sex marriage will not only give children a safe, secure home, but will also create a more hopeful and enriching environment. Since 2000, the number of children adopted by married same-sex couples has doubled. In the United States, the adoption rates have skyrocketed because of same-sex marriage. Of the 120,000 children in the United States Foster Care system, 8,300 have been adopted by homosexual partners before 2000. With the now rising number of states legalizing same-sex marriage, 21,700 more children have been adopted just by married same-sex partners after 2000. Gay adoption has also shown to give children that are adopted by such couples a more realistic view on life. Most children adopted by gay couples have also said that they now can understand more useful topics and they have proven to be more successful in life.Too many children in foster care are falling through cracks, so be a hero. Gay marriage can only do one thing for these kids, help."
"People should be able to love anyone they can."
"I'm for gay because it is morally wrong to tell someone who they can and can not love. like how black use to not be free look now we are equal, it should be the same for gay's they are people and should have the same rights as others. because they are different doesn't mean nothing. they are still breathing living humans and have feelings like everyone else. and how everyone thinks just cause someone's gay they are automatically checking you out, well in fact that's wrong just cause they are gay don't mean they have a thing for you, so stop being so concede. If gays were legal it'd actually be good for society because they would be more likely to adopt a kid rather than have one.. so there be less kids without a family. stop being so concede and argent and just accept it already!"
"I am surprised that you of all people would say you support equality and then support marriage benefits for couples but not single people. This kind of inequality hurts my feelings. Gays do have the same rights as other people, they can marry a member of the opposite sex just like I can as a single person. Whenever we do that, we can get marriage benefits just like everyone else."
"Gay marriage should be legalized everywhere. Some people opposed to Gay marriage are doing it because of their religion, but banning Gay marriage isn't religious freedom, it's religious oppression. I respect all religions, but the Bible isn't a legal document. In fact, the United States of America was built upon the idea that anyone can practice or not practice any religion they want to. The idea that all people, no matter what their age, race, ethnicity, gender, sexual orientation, or religion are created equal. Others argue that it's "unnatural", but homosexuality is found in hundreds of species. The most natural thing in the world is complexity and unpredictability. It's not a birth defect, it's not a disease, it's not a lifestyle, and it's certainly not a choice. It's human. It's love."
"Love is love, it doesn't matter who is loved. Everyone has a right to be happy and I do not understand why people are judging other people of whom they marry for it doesn't effect them. Just the fear of the unknown prevents these people from accepting what is going to happen weither they like it or not. Happiness is a right, and everyone deserves it no matter their preferences. If it isn't hurting you, mind your own buisness!"
"Because the Bible has nothing to do with the law."
"Because no one can tell you how to live your life and you are entitled to marry who ever you want to marry according to the Constitution of the United States of America."
"The U.S. Constitution does not mention marriage or how to live your life. Your statement is irrelevant."
"I believe that we cannot be truly equal until we recognise all couples as equal. The LGBT community and the people who support them deserve so much more than they have!"
"If a man loves a man, so be it. If a woman loves a woman, so be it. Gay marriage does not get any more complicated than love."
"I'm pro because I'm bisexual, and I believe everyone has the right to love, and to confirm that love through marriage."
"Gay marriage being illegal is denying U.S. citizens their basic rights. Go read the 14th Ammendment. And what happened to 'Seperation of Church and State'? America is crumbling from its foundation. This shouldn't even be a debate topic."
"I think gay marriage should be the national law."
"Gay marriage is not going to happen. It must."
"i am straight but i support gay marriage like no other. we fought so hard to all have equal rights yet some people still cant get married that stupid. love is love. If you are gay and you are reading this then my message to you is ''fight on, and i love you''."
"To me this doesn't even need an argument, anyone with half a brain should be able to see that this is a simple matter of a) no one else's business and b) people who are treated like second class citizens looking for equality. The fact that things like this (and climate change) are debatable subjects in society today is really discouraging."
"If my religious beliefs consider marraige to be the union of two people that love each other, why does someone elses religion get to take precedence over mine. No church owns the word marraige, nor the right to decide if my relationship is more or less valuable than anyone elses."
"yes it should legal"
"same sex couples should be allowed to publicly celebrate their comitment human right foundation claims that same sex couples want the right to legally marry and honor their relationship"
"Marriage equality, is a human right, are we still stuck in the the ways of racism, prejudice, and interracial relationships, or bias on your color of skin, your religious beliefs, your gender, and sexual preference or sexual orientation, all of this is discrimination or classification and segregation of some form. It us un acceptabel . It should be a human right to marry who you love no matter the shape, size , hair color, skin color. or gender or sexual orientation or preference. we have feeling and all bleed red blood. So to me a commitment/ partnership/ domestic partner/ lover or friend what ever your commitment is to the one you love , should not be determined by a law or government or any one or anything else but your heart. I AM IN FAVOR OF MARRIAGE EQUALITY."
"Same-sex marriage should be allowed because the only reason people do not support it is because it doesn't appeal to them and its against their beliefs supposedly. But what those people don't understand is that these couples love each other the same way a man and a woman does, t hey just happen to be the same sex. People say that it shouldn't be allowed because they cannot have children but these same-sex couples can adopted children whose straight parents didn't want them. Also, people don't like it because it offends them. Well just because something offends you doesn't mean you have to be apart of it.These same-sex couples are not going to invite you to their wedding. People who dislike the idea of same-sex marriages simply do not like their own lives and feel the need to control someone else's but that is unfair. Religious beliefs should not influence the laws. It should be separated. Same-sex couples should be treated no differently than straight couples."
"everybody have the right to be live a happy life."
"Just as suggestion- as a more informed text, the title of this article should be changed to same-sex Marriage - Pros and Cons. If we are really discussing the full scope of debates surrounding homosexuality and the appropriate vernacular used"
"Same sex Marriage is as right as any marriage as marriage is what it is andyou cant help who you fall in love with but anyone should be allowed to marry who they want and when they want and how it should be legal cause putting it out there I am too"
"Saying that two people of the same sex can not be both a father and a mother is unfounded. Girls without dads become promiscuous because their mothers date one man after another trying to find a suitable father for the girl. And men can give advice just like women. It doesn't take a psychologist to realize that those who oppose it are acting under years of brainwash and social influence, and that under different circumstances they could have chosen the Rainbow Path as well."
"What I remain so curious about is how exactly same-sex marriages hurt our society? Noone can ever explain that. Since my marriage is recognized federally, we now pay more in taxes. That seems like a good thing.My wife and I have been together for 22 years. That's a lot longer than most marriages in my generation. That seems like a good thing.We have a home that is paid for, and that's a good thing.I have a law degree and a 32-year career, and that's a good thing.My wife and I are very active in our church (which is mainstream but accepting) and that's a good thing.I don't think we're harming anyone, and I suggest we actually contribute to the values of commitment to spouse, society and God."
"Gay marriage should be legalized to stop the ultimate discrimination. We speak about the importance of inclusive culture and tolerance, while our laws clearly indicate our intolerance to people who love someone of the same sex. Who gave us the right to judge them? Who said that this type of love is somehow different of inferior from feelings between a man and a woman? After all, marriage isn't only a religious rite, but it's also an important civilian act. Moreover, couples which have no right to marry are deprived of numerous benefits, including tax advantages and heritage rights."
"People who have been commenting in the con side have mostly been centering their arguments on religion, and the production of children. However may these religious people be reminded that there is no proof that god exists and may i also remind you that several things in the bible are outdated and no longer taught in churches. And for the production of children, we are currently in a population crisis and several supplies are being cut off. And based off of my personal opinion if two people are in love then they have the right to be married it does not matter whether it is a man or a woman, or a man and a man, or a woman and a woman. People who try to compare pedophilia with homosexuality need to study because the two are nothing alike."
"There are tens of thousands of same-sex couples raising children. By denying them the ability to marry, we are denying their children the proven benefits and protections of having married parents, and we are doing harm to those children. Unless a law is being proposed that would remove those children from their parents' custody and hand them over to opposite-sex couples, it is irrelevant to claim that they are being harmed in some way by having same-sex parents (not to mention that has been thoroughly disproved by research). Where is the evidence that granting marriage equality will lead to any more children being raised by same-sex couples than there are now? And even if there were (perhaps through easier adoption access), there is no way that the supposed "harm" done to them could come close to outweighing the real harm currently being done to these existing children of same-sex couples by denying marriage equality. Therefore, marriage equality must become law to protect those children (and for all the other reasons already stated)."
"I just hope the same gender marriage fight also includes ones that were born in the wrong gender also. So all human mankind can have the right to marry if they do wish so. I am fighting or all mankind to be able to marry and to be seen as whom they are and not what gender they were born into! So if we are going to fight this fight lets include everyonein tthis fight that can marry.I personally dont want to exclude anyone in this long and hard fight for marriage. lets make t possible for all mankind to do so! I just want to see all human mankind to have the same equal rights! I am for any human to marry another human.So lets take this fight alittle farther please.. And to let humans have the equal opptinties that the stright people have.I dont care whom you are or what gender yu were born into I just want to see JUSTICE DONE IN OUR GOVERMENT!! SO LETS ET THIS RIGHT!! Thanks"
"I think that all people should be happy and there would be less suicides and more love to go around!and as far as the bible it was a made up story that is what I believe if it was true the truth would have come out already!plus gay marriage does not effect your straight marriage and people need to let go of the crap they were told to think and think for themselves!"
"Yes it should be! We should have the same rights to marriage like anyone else. Benefits from S.S. also just like straights have. My late Husband of 38 yrs passed away one year may 25,2014. I got nothing except his Life ins. That was left to me. We had A Holy Union in Va. In 1990 from M.C.C. Of Norfolk, Va. So until Va. Passes it I get no nothing from S.S. I Loved my Husband and still do ,its very rough but until the Law changes and makes everyone equal I am screwed, God made us all to Love and We Did. So Goverment Make Us Equal in All 50 States!!!"
"My condolences on your loss."
"how would any of you in the con section like it if it was against the law for you to be with the person you love? you would'nt like it would you? well that's how we feel. we just want to be free to be happy just like you. if you met me on the street you would never in a million years guess that i am bi sexual because i look the same as any other random person on the street. i dont see what the big deal is that someone likes the same gender that they are. what if it was weird to be straight? what if straight couples were looked down appon? how would you take it if you were the one being made fun of and being bullied and being shut out for being straight? just think about that and try to argue with me."
"It is not against the law for you to be with the person that you love. You can have physical and emotional relations with anyone that you want. You can cohabit with anyone that you want. You have all of those rights, but you are asking for a marriage certificate. People only want the piece of paper because they want societal approval and the monetary benefits of marriage. You are asking for these benefits but you don't say anything about giving these benefits to single people. Why do you want inequality for and discrimination against single people? You make me feel bad as a single person. Just think about that and try to argue with me."
"I believe gay marriage should be legalized because heterosexual people feel like there less of a person I think if gay or lesbian people want to get married they should. Who are we to judge them there humans just like us I believe because if the people who was heterosexual would want the same thing. I am a 12 year-old boy and its sad that people doesn't support our own kind me I give my support to gay marriage because its the right thing to do god says come as you are in the end we are all gods children we have to stand together to fight for the right of gay marriage. I feel you don't have to be scared if your a heterosexual then express it ignore what people say they can't judge you because if they put there self in your situation they would want the same equality."
"I disagree with what you say because you are seeking equality for all couples, but not for single people like me. Why should single people not got societal approval like couples? Why do you seek to discriminate against singles like me?"
"I definitely support same-sex marriages. The reason why I support this is that everyone should have the right to be joined in marriage to the one person they love. Love doesn't mean falling in love with opposite sex, but saying being happy with someone. Everybody deserves to be happy. For instance, if 2 men or 2 women are in love and want to celebrate their committment to each other by marriage, who's right is it to judge them for it? Do we have rights to blame them? I don't think so. Because of this reason and others combined, I argue that gay marriage should be legalized in all states."
"My hairdresser was 13 when he realized he only liked girls as friends, and he got married last year after 20 years!"
"this is dumb it is one ones right to say who can love and how they can love let the LGBT do what ever the "straights"get to"
"My opinion on this issue is a little bit biased, as I am bisexual, and so are most of my friends. So, I obviously believe gay marriage should be legal. Biased views aside, getting married is a right, not a privilege. Everyone has the right to marry who they want."
"yes because love is love who are we to judge who or what someone loves"
"I 100% support gays. Some people say that it is wrong, or they are going to hell, or love is a privilege, not a choice. Well you know what, if you love someone you should want & be able to legally marry them & raise a family & be with them for the rest of your life. I don't care if it's a male & female, male & male, or female & female. I honestly don't see couples any different just cause they might be together but be the same sex. Gay marriage needs to be legal in all states today."
"As an institution that has become more egalitarian and considered to be a basic human right, marriage should be made available to all human beings regardless of sexual preference. Marriage is about love and commitment, what do we have to fear from that? Two things remain clear through all the debates, demonstrations, court cases, and legal rulings, first is that we are all human no matter our sexual preference we are all human beings, and when we were born we were born with all the basic human rights as those born before us and those to be born after us. Second, this battle is one that may never see an end, both sides are standing their ground according to their beliefs. Since the beginning days of the Civil Rights movement we as Americans have been in a constant battle to secure our basic human rights. Rights that African-Americans, women, and homosexuals have had stripped away and/or banned because they are different. Different in America has become a sign of weakness and overall not good for society as a whole, imagine where we would be if no one stood up against those decisions. We are better than this fight if we can all come together instead of seeing each other as segregated sections of a broken society."
"You say marriage is about love and commitment. I say marriage is about a piece of paper that carries specific monetary benefits. You are already allowed to have a boyfriend or a girlfriend regardless of you sex, but people only ask for marriage certificates when they want money. Why do you seek marriage benefits only for couples and say nothing about benefits for single people like me? Do you have something against single people. The only way to achieve marital equality for all adults is to eliminate marriage. then we can treat all people as individuals and equals before the law."
"I am married to my husband of 13 years in Minnesota. Minnesota was the 13th state to allow freedom to marry. Thank you Minnesota."
"Let Gay people marry its not wrong its what they want to do so lets let them be who they want to be and do what they want to do. Why should we say no tho this I agree to let same sex marrige happen"
"we're all human here. One great thing about today's society was that we got to marry who we wanted to. But it's not fair to separate people by who they love. Having one family be of the same sex parents isn't going to effect the different sex family across the street. There's nothing wrong with gayness, and don't pull that bible crap either. In the bible, yes, it may be against gays, but it also says it's a sin just as bad to get a divorce, and yet people are just fine with that.Don't discriminate others just because they're not like you. There's no such thing as 'normal' in our world because every single person is different."
"I just want to married the love of my life. Without no one telling what I can and can't do. move to va a few months after she ask the question and that made me the happiest in the world and now i'm being told that I have to keep waiting to make our family whole thats not fear and it's not right."
"So many States changed their Constitutions to forbid equal marriage. This tells me that same-sex marriages would have been allowed under the Constitutions they HAD - before they changed them.This should tell you a LOT."
"This tells me that they recognised, that marriage in the time, the constutution was written, with no doubt was between man and woman and that a constitutions words are not to be interpreted arbitrarily by zeitgeist."
"Marriage IS a right and it is wrong to restrict that right to only men and women."
"'Gay Marriage"? Do we read 'Gay Books'? Eat 'Gay Food'? Go to the 'Gay Restroom'? No, so why classify it as 'Gay Marriage? It' just marriage, as human beings we have the right to chose who we want to and who w want to be with. Society is so judgmental. Banning 'Gay' marriage is taking away rights to be human. It's like telling a child not to be happy. It's our right to do as we please. We cause no harm to anyone by being homosexual. It's not a mental disorder and we're not confused. We are who God created us to be."
"While I agree with the sentiment in your post, using the term "gay marriage" is simply 'shorthand'. Everyone knows what we are talking about, even though the words on our State-issued marriage certificates simply say "Marriage Certificate".To borrow a phrase, "Don't sweat the small stuff.""
"Gay marriage should be legal because the constitution states that "No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States" You can't enforce that same sex couples can't get married. But they are doing it anyway."
"its not okay that people get discriminated for who the love its not there choose its just who they are they cant change even if they wanted to so give them free rights you would not like it very much if you could not get married to who you love and want to spend the rest of ur life with"
"we all should have the right to be happy with the person we are with man/man or ladies with ladies we pay our taxes like the the other smucks do. we should have equal rights !"
"I'm Pro Gay marriage because Love is Love and I think that everyone should have the right to marry the man or women that they love no matter their gender!"
"although the fight continues i'm holding on strongly to what i believe is right and will always know that nobody can take away the most joyful thing in any persons life."
"I argue that gay marriage should be legal. The reason why I support this argument is that everyone has right to love people. In here, love means not fallining in love with opposite people, but making happy relationship with anybody. Also, everybody deserves to be happy. For instance, 2 men or 2 women marries, and they say they are happy, who has the right to blame them? There is no right to say it is a bad thing to marry with same sex. No person has the authority to judge or tell you who/ what you should love. Therefore, because of these reasons, I strongly argue that gay marriage should be legalized to every state."
"Legalize same sex marriage should be allowed. It amazes me when the politicians use the bible to restrict us from doing what they say is unpopular. But deny us the right to pray in schools. They use the bible when it suits them."
"I think Gay Marriage should be legalized. I mean every one has the right to love who ever they wish to love. Have you ever been loved think about it.... how would you like it if people said you can't marry that special someone? I don't think you would like it. That's how Gay People feel, they feel insecure of whom to love in this world that is So not fair. How would you like it if somebody said something because of who you love or demanded that you can't love that person. Would you just go with it or stick up for yourselves? I believe Gays should Be able to marry one another. WHO'S WITH ME????? (SOrry for saying Gays)"
"Every reason given ultimately conflates natural law with Christianity and has been used to prevent interracial marriages or interreligious marriages in the past. Gay marriage is the last bastion of the Christian missionaries who set out so long ago to shape the world in their own image with proselytization, crusades, inquisition and every other overt or covert method at their disposal. Take religion out of it and none of the arguments have a leg to stand on. If it was not natural, then homosexuality would not exist in nature. If marriage is all about having couples and then childless couples out to have marriages annulled. If living with a parent who has no biological relationship with the child is so debilitating in situations where surrogates are used, then how can children living with step parents, adopted parents or foster parents are in the same boat. The one and only reason is religion, that's all."
"The argument that gays do not reproduce is invalid because there are plenty of straight couples that choose not to have children. And, gay couples adopt orphans. And, God made Gays, Lesbians, Bisexuals, and trans genders. I believe that he did this to teach us how to coexist and except everyone how they are. Love is love and if someone can find someone they love to help them get through this rough life, then let them. And, if someone needs to change their gender to be happy, then let them. God told us to love everyone. Just as we love mentally handicapped people, we need to love Gays, Lesbians, Trans-Genders, and Bisexuals just the same."
"People can't choose to be born gay or straight, they just are. If two people love each other, why can't they get married? If you say "because of my religion" or "because god said so" no. According to the bible the wife is supposed to be stoned after a divorce, but I don't see that happening, do you? You are trying to control people's lives, a part of their lives thy have no control over. If let's say you loved basketball, but you had no talent, is it wrong to say you can't play? Because that is what people are trying to do with gay marriage."
"People should be able to marry whoever they want. Marriage should be an unalienable right."
"I vote to legalize gay marriage because who someone else is marrying has nothing to do with me. If the people in our country would mind their own business then we might not have as many problems as we do."
"@ Ken M (once again),You type: "The more benefits we give to people, the more I have to pay in taxes." while ignoring that we ALL pay taxes, which conversely means that the more heterosexuals that marry, the more GAY folk have to pay in taxes.A little consistency might help your 'cause'."
"ShaNautica, I disagree with your statement that who someone else is marrying has nothing to do with me. People want a marriage certificate in order to get the monetary benefits of marriage. those benefits are paid for with our group tax dollars. The more benefits we give to people, the more I have to pay in taxes. This is how same sex marriage affect me. Gay people are allowed to love anyone they want, live with anyone, and have sex with anyone they want. I support these things because they cost me nothing. A marriage certificate does cost me (tax) money. This is why I have standing, or a legal reason to complain against who receives a marriage certificate."
"I am for gay marriage because people need to understand that not everybody cares about what "god" thinks. Just because you are Christian doesn't mean that everybody else has to be. If you don't like it, don't do it. The first amendment says that everyone has freedom of religion. Therefore, you can't control them. Deal with it."
"I think gay marriage should be legal because everyone should be treated equally. Also, it is wrong to discriminate against, not only race, but a persons views and way of life as well."
"The Constitution of the United States decrees "all men are created equal". Men, women, black, white, gay, straight....we are all equal under the laws of the US. This religious discrimination should have ended decades ago. Shame on the proponents of religious oppression for keeping these antiquated laws alive."
"Besides, religion has no place in our laws. Denying people basic rights because your religion teaches you to discriminate is something that should be considered a sin. Love thy neighbor doesn't mean that you should treat your neighbors unjustly. Homosexuality is not a sin, and the sin of Sodom was not homosexuality but rather rape and in-hospitality. Cherry picking the bible so that it suits your bigotry is not a moral pursuit."
"Same-sex marriage is fine, and I think everyone should just leave the gay and lesbian families alone."
"Gay marriage is something that should be decided on by the two lovers, not something the Government wants them to think. Not supporting same-sex marriage is okay, but that doesn't mean that you have to make a big deal about it. Leave the lovers alone. I, myself, am bisexual. Does that make my friends and family love me any less? No, it doesn't.Please take my words to heart. I hope to have a wonderful life, and I don't want haters to ruin it. I have a loving boyfriend, and want to have a girlfriend too. Again, this doesn't mean I am evil or wrong or messed up. Just let the lovers love!"
"YES same sex marriage should me allowed, because people should have the rights to marry someone they love no mater what the sex is (love is love) and this will send a message to people saying its alright to be u and to show it one day together we will all stand equal and hopefully same sex marriage will be allowed across the united states."
"In most questions about the legality of something, there are many reasons something should be legal and many reasons that it should not. It becomes a question of which pile of reasons outweighs the other pile, and which pile most closely adheres to constitutional law. But in this case, there are hundreds of reasons advanced on why it should be legal, but not a single person has been able to identify a single defensible reason that it should not. The reasons given for why it should not are indefensible because they fail to adhere to constitutional law, and because every single one of them boils down to a single thing: "I don't like it because ewwwwww! It's gross! Yucky!" But the thing is, "Yucky" is not a legal justification for robbing a group of people of their human rights."
"Yes, gay marriage shiould be legal because love is not a gender!"
"I believe that love is love. Just because you are attracted to the same sex doesn't mean that they shouldn't be offered the same opportunities as heterosexuals. It may say its a sin in the bible, but we all sin everyday, but God still forgives us. He loves all his children. People are out there murdering and lying, but its not ok to be gay? That is not right. Everyone deserves to be treated equally. Like what my parents always told me treat people they want to be treated."
"Gay marriage should be allowed because you should marry whoever you truly love."
"Because they deserve to be happy <3"
"Because I am gay."
"don't tell me gay marriage shouldn't be legal because the bible says its wrong. in the verse leviticus 18:22 it says ''You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; its an abomination.'' This statement clearly states sex isn't to be aloud between the same genders. However marriage doesn't have to involve sexual relations."
"There you quoting the bibe. What is that your only defance on your side? The bible also says do not judge!! Don not have sex until married, do not have bad thoughts thoughts others love thy nabor. Honor they Mother and Father. Nerver go agiast what they or challagen them. Did you do that. Let me ask you something how manytimes dd you break the 10 comments in your life? Until you can live by the bible fully and totally then you souldnt use the bible to hide behind. Do not judge others is also in the bible and that is what you are doing. So letstake out the bible and in your own words fight agaist us if you wish but dont be using the bible to do s.Until you can really live your ife as the bible says so and nt just parts of it when you feel like tring to use it agaist others. Thanks"
"I strongly believe gay marriage should be legalized. Just because your deity forbids it doesn't mean you have to force your religion on gays. Not everyone believes in the same deity and not everyone believes in one."
"I am pro because males and females should not be treated differently under the law."
"Gay marriage should be legal because they believe in it and its their pursuit of happiness and it's not hurting someone else."
"I'm Pro because most people look down on gay marriage for one of two reasons-their supposed party-hookup-with-everybody lifestyle, and/or the single verse in the Bible that states that a man shall not lay with another man. First of all, if two women or two men want to get married to each other, they obviously want to spend the rest of their lives together! They don't want to hookup with every living being like some may thing. They love each other, and who's going to stop them from doing that? Love is inevitable. And, that verse in the Bible is one among thousands, and if you care to read the surrounding verses, they sound just as insane. Plus, you are reading that verse in the wrong context. That verse is a part of a story, and is not necessarily a sacrament, such as communion or baptism. Jesus Christ, as recorded, NEVER SAID THAT TWO MEN/WOMEN COULD NOT MARRY. That is just bigotry by Orthodox Christians who base all of their arguments on one verse and the fact God created Man and Woman, not Man and Man. Discriminating against gays and lesbians is just as bad, if not worse, than discriminating against those who are a different race. It's love. Love shouldn't have to be legalized in the first place. But it must. I rest my case."
"How does seeing two homosexual people hurt you? How does it affect you personally in everyday life? It doesn't. everyone lives their own independent lives from each other and need to worry about themselves and not other people's business.,god loves you and sees every sin as being equal. so if someone lies or if two people of the same sex choose to love each other, these sins will be viewed as equal. So if we discriminate against gay people because of this "sin", Then shouldn't people discriminate against the thieves and stealers and murderers? Why don't they get treated poorly and denied service and made fun of? then shouldn't basically everyone be denied services, like the right to get married, since WE ARE ALL SINNERS?? They choose to love someone. Just like heterosexual people choose to love. Homosexuals are still humans. And as human beings they deserve the same rights as everyone else under the constitution. Before african americans were denied rights, when in fact they are human beings with hearts, and they were finally allowed to have the same rights white people share. Homosexuals are just like heterosexual people, just with different beliefs. We all can freely express our rights, and so should homosexual people."
"People should be able to marry who they love, and marry. Regardless of gender."
"It should be legal because America is about freedom and different beliefs!"
"yes gay marriage should be legal because there can be no limit to love! Why are people judged for who they love??Its not right at all? This is the US where we have freedom but yet there are still states that allow same sex marriage? thats not right! Love is love and you cant control anybody."
"But the literal definition of marriage is where a man and a woman become committed to each other for life and conceive a child. No gay man will ever be able to impregnate his partner, so why would you traditionally marry them together?"
"It's unconstitutional to discriminate against someone simply because they don't have a traditional sexual relationship. It's as if saying to someone you can't marry this man because he's white and you're black. It's as if you were saying that gay people are on a lower level to straight people. It's the same type of discrimination as when blacks were considered lowly and slave workers, it's unconstitutional and it's wrong to say that gays can't be married."
"We live in America. America is supposed to be a place where we welcome everyone no matter his or her religion or where he or she is from. Based on that common knowledge, not everyone in this country is of the same religion; therefore, we cannot base our laws off of one particular religion.So no one is able to back up their opinion based on the bible. The people that said that marriage is a privilege not an right because only men and women are able to procreate are completely blind. Based on wherever that logic came from, men and women who are infertile would be unable to marry."
"No person has the authority to judge or tell you who/ what you should love. weather or not your gay it doesnt matter we are all human. it really shouldnt matter to anyone who disagrees because your not the one whos being teased or being homosexual. and if you dont like seeing stuff like that avoid looking!"
"I disagree! At present "no one (does) have the right to tell you who/what you should love." You already have that right. Are you really asking for the ability to get a marriage certificate because you have been teased in the past? That is the worst argument I have ever heard."
"you go head girl!!!"
"what does it matter if the same sex wants to marry and how is this paying your bills. People are so hypocritical now a days and worry about the wrong things. Obviously it is discrimination if you don't allow such to marry just because they like the diffrent sex....This is suppose to be land of the free as long as you are not breaking laws....America needs to get it together"
"God created everything. Therefore God created homosexuals. Furthermore if God were to create homosexuals as part of his children would he not love them equally as much as he loves his "straight" children? Would he not want all of his children to be happy and marry who they wish to marry?If God is the reason Gay's can't marry then why did God create gays in the first place?"
"I'm pro because it is in the consititution to give people the right to be who they are so to speak. They have the right to love whoever they would like. Isn't that what we want? People to be happiness? Find love? I would say so. I believe we are all suppose to find happiness. Be who you are, stay true. If you're gay, you're gay. No discrimination for being who you are."
"I dont understand why people judge others based on the bible. That is not what the bible is for!!! Im religious yet I do not go using the bible to destroy happiness. We have ALL made mistakes, but since when has a mistake been to love someone? God is not homophobic like most of these people posting CON comments. But since we are all quoting the bible now, let me just finish with this, *Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' when there is the log in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye. Humanity should not judge their brothers and sisters, if there is one to judge let our father decide. We should not intervene with what is."
"I disagree with your argument. I do not oppose same sex marriage because I judge gays to be bad. I oppose same sex marriage because it continues the current marital inequality and does not end discrimination, but rather begins discrimination. It is good to hear that you are not judgemental, but that is not a good reason to support same sex marriage."
"To the people against gay marriage: Who are you to decide if someone can marry the person they love? Does letting someone marry a person of the same gender harm you or your family? Because that's what you're are doing. You are hurting people by telling them that they are abominations and disgusting and wrong. It doesn't affect you in anyway if gay marriage becomes legalized, so why would you try to hurt another human being like this? Someone's personal opinion should never affect someone else's life. So unless you can give some actual facts that prove gay marriage causes a negative effect on society, please shut up.~Eady, a 13 year old that seems to understand the effects of gay marriage better than some 30 year olds."
"I think that gay couples have their rights to do whatever they feel comfortable doing. It is nobody's choice to decide a gay couple's destiny. We are all people gay or not, so it shouldn't bother people (as in the ones that disagree) because it is simply NONE OF THEIR BUSINESS! Like I said earlier, we can't decide other people's choices, this is a free country and people should be able to do what they do. So I am putting my foot down here and saying yes that gay marriage should be legal."
"Im pro gay marriage because love is love. The government shouldnt be able to control who we marry. Also that it doesnt matter if a guy loves a guy or if a girl loves another girl. Love has many forms it just so happenedthat two guys or girls love each other."
"I'm pro because who am I to deny someone their happiness, or their right to make it official?"
"I'm pro because I believe everyone has a right to be with who ever makes them happy"
"Being against someone for being gay is like being against someone for liking red apples over green ones.my first point is a question "when did you chose to be straight?"...EXACTLY it came naturally didn't it!you can have your religion but why do you care so much about other peoples lives?Will you lie down and suddenly spontaneously combust if gay marriage became legalized in every state, country, and continent in the world?Don't be up in every ones business let gays live their lives and they will let you live yours!"
"People say it shouldn't be allowed because, "Gay marriage is a sin. It's against God's wishes."It's also against the 10 commandments to use God's name in vain but people say "God dammit" or "oh my God" or "Jesus Christ" constantly without batting an eye. What about honoring your parents? Have you never disrespected your mom and dad? Of course you have. Everyone has, whether intentionally or not. Gluttony is also against the 10 commandments. Are you protesting fast food chains for encouraging sinners? We all sin. It's not fair to judge or hate people just because they sin differently than us. God loves and forgives all of his children for their imperfections. People can love whoever they want to love and we would be disrespecting our neighbors by telling them that they are wrong, or going to Hell, or hating them solely for that.If you don't like gay marriage, don't get gay married. But also don't think you're being the better Christian for condemning people who just want to love and be loved in return."
""We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal". This should sound familiar, after all, it is in the Declaration of Independence. The United States was founded on the ideal of religious freedom and now people are being blatantly discriminated against on religious grounds. If we merge the church and the state, we will become exactly what our founding fathers were trying to protect us from becoming, a fascist monarchy. Many Christians use the passage Leviticus 18:22 to defend this bigoted belief without realizing that Leviticus is not a part of the New Testament, therefore invalid to the Christian religion. Christianity is supposed to be about the teachings of Christ, who was never documented as saying anything about homosexuality. He did, however, preach against divorce, which is legal. The book of Leviticus also bans over 70 things (some even contradict each other), few of which are still followed. Denying a specific group of people the right to marry is a blatant violation of the 14th Amendment of the United States Constitution, which guarantees equal protection under the law. Many people also say that homosexual behavior is unnatural, however it has been observed in all species that reproduce sexually."
"Why are we so against homosexuality? Is it because it is "unnatural"? If so why are there evidence of this in everyday nature? If cows fall in love with their own gender, are we going to prosecute them and beat them up for being gay?Just because men or women can't reproduce each other, are we going to deny their right to love whomever they want? If that were true, then are we not going to let women or men with bodies that can't reproduce marry? Being homosexual is not new. It is not wrong. We should learn to accept people for who they are and protect their rights."
"The arguments in the "con" column illustrate the religious nature of the objections forwarded there. The first amendment provides that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion...". I don't believe in the god of those posting in the "con" column. I don't want the secular laws of this country to be promulgated based on what they think their god wants.Those promoting their religious views as secular law in this country should consider carefully the policy they're promoting. Muslim fundamentalist make it clear that they feel justified in promoting Sharia (Muslim religious law) as secular law in those countries where they have political power. If this comes to pass in this country, the very same people posting in the "con" column will be citing the first amendment and clamoring for the separation of church and state.The rest of the "con" arguments are pure specious tripe. They're not even worth a response.I'm 65 years old and I've been married to the same woman for 45 years. I'm appalled at the naked bigotry these so-called christians exude."
"yes!god is the only one that will judge you and everyone else! we should have the same rights as heterosexuals do .if you love someone enough that you want to marry it shouldn't matter !"
"I believe that everyone should be treated fairly and respected all the same. Gay marriage is not a sin nor is being gay. After all, you fall in love with a person not a gender. Regarding having children being brought up in a household with same sex parents, I think that it will do no harm to the children as they will be treated with the same love and respect they would have living with straight parents. Homosexuality is NOT a sin. It is a natural occurrence which is found in every living species, homophobia is only found in one. Stop labelling people, we are all the same."
"Think about if it were you. Would you want to be told that you couldn't marry the person you loved? Love is Love and no one can stop you from getting married. Its a human right!"
"It's not up to anyone to tell someone who they are allowed to marry."
"I am pro because we all should be free to love the person we love. We all should accept those whom love the other sex because we are all human and we should be able to live with the person we want without it being a problem. I am bi-sexual so I think we all should love one another. I would like to get married someday to the person of my dreams which happens to be a girl. this is the reason why I am pro for this cause. it shouldn't be a problem for them to just pass a bill that will clearly state gay couples can get married."
"I see nothing wrong with same-sex marriage. People should not be pressured to change who they are. We should have equal rights and no one should be discriminated against."
"if your saying that the point of marriage is for reporduction, Witch ive seen in a couple of comments and that the reason your against same sex marriage, Well theres is a good answer for that...... adoption they could give a home to a good child that would mean less kids in a foster home and more kids in a real home. And for the people who are against it saying o well there kids are gonna get bullied...... no just no you need to teach your kid not to bullie and maybe the world would be better .One more thing imagine if we ived in a world were being gay was normal and being stright was not right think about that let that sit in youur mind when you decied to write your negotive comment."
"We give marriage benefits to promote child bearing. We give tax deductions for dependents to promote child rearing. Adoption is a good thing, but it sounds like you're confusing the two issues. I support adoption by same sex couples and by single people, but I think a preference should be given to opposite sex couples because having a male and a female role model at home is a good thing. Two good gay parents are much better than two bad straight parents. Adoption is not the issue. Same sex marriage is."
"Let people live their life how they want to. Why deprive people of their right to love one another and express it legally?"
"I am pro same-sex marriage because I believe that everyone deserves love and acceptance, regardless of sexual preference. If a man falls in love with a man, or a woman falls in love with a woman, they should be allowed to show their love for each other in public areas without being discriminated against like heterosexual partners do. Maybe the legalization of same-sex marriage will show people the true meaning of love and acceptance. You can't help who you fall in love with. Being LGBT isn't a choice. You know what is a choice ? Waking up every day and deciding that two people being in love is going to affect your life negatively. That's a choice."
"I'm a pro because first, I know a lesbian family who have two kids they adopted and they're perfectly fine. I don't get the con that kids have to have a mom and a dad because the lesbian family's kids love both their moms."
"Love has no gender, we all have the right to love who we want. And shouldn't have to deal with the harass from others just because of who we love. And who we want to spend the rest our lives with. If you truly love that person i think you have every right to be able to marry that person. Even if it's the same-sex."
"I am pro because first off, I am bisexual. Second of all, I do not think that the Government should have any say so in who we get to marry, because ti's not as if we're are marrying a terrorist, we are only marrying someone of the same sex. Is it "normal"... depends on who you ask, but I do know that the government has been trying and succeeding in ruling every, single, solitary, moment and aspect of our lives, and it is like the government is a puppeteer and we are the puppets, destined to do whatever they what us to do, because we are only the citizens. Honestly, the only way that the government should be allowed to do, that has to do with America's marriage, is giving us our marriage certificate and moving on with their lives, and starts living theirs, and stop living ours for us like we aren't able to live by our own selves with them interfering."
"to be completely honest, i believe that gay marriage should be legal, because although the bible states that it is wrong, nobody follows the bible as strongly as they portray it. plus, everyone uses the bible for evidence anyways because that's the bandwagon everyone chose. i believe gay marriage should be legal for reasons such as: the marriage business would be booming, and the fact that happy gay/lesbian couples can finally be the united couple they want to be. why take away someones happiness because you don't approve? step back from society for a minute and see how happy these same-sex couples actually are. they are NOT queers or fags. NONE of those horrible terms. they are just humans, just like everyone else. happy humans being with someone they love and care about. that itself is not something that should be discriminated against, but rather, in my opinion, embraced and encouraged."
"Gay marriage should be legal. Who are we to tell someone they cant be with the person they wanna spend the rest of their lives with."
"people should have a choice on who they love male or female. if you dont like it then fine its not you life to choose"
"Gay marriage should be legal because I, for one, would love to be treated equally and have the same rights as heterosexuals."
"i believe that anybody can do what they want ????"
"What is so wrong about letting people be happy. If it is disrespectful to you then don't involve yourself with it. People have the right to be happy. A lot of Cons I have been reading say that people "can change". Why would they want to change and ruin their happiness for? The acceptance of the Lord? God accepts you for who you are, not for who you love. So many people have lied, divorced, and done so much more that goes against what the bible says. So your going to let someone get a divorce and be upset, rather than let 2 men or woman marry and be happy! Equality everyone, seriously. GAY MARRIAGE SHOULDN'T AFFECT YOUR LIFE. I once saw a quote that said the only way you should be offended by gay marriage, is if you weren't invited to the wedding. (By the way, traditional marriage is at a 40%-50% divorce rate). You are going to stand in a school and preach that discrimination isn't right, when that's what we are doing again. Seriously, each day there is about 300,000 traditional marriages that aren't affecting your life. Why should gay marriage. If you aren't the one having a gay wedding, then go on with your life. Its not your place to tell someone who they should or shouldn't be."
"Love is love no matter what. A government shouldn't be able to control who falls in love."
"Gay marriage should be legal because everyone is different, everyone has a different feeling on subjects and in life.The gay community is not excluded from this theory. America is the home of the brave and the land of the free; you aren't free if you cant marry you you want."
"Love is love!!!"
"When did you choose to be strait, white and have any illnesses you have?"
"What if everyone was born homosexual, but for some reason people "chose" to be hetersexual? If the roles were reversed how would you feel? Would you be able to marry the person you love. Doubt it. All because a few people thought it was immoral. That is ridiculous."
""Love is love, it doesn't matter."-Riker Anthony Lynch"
"Because, why not?"
"I don't care about people being gay aslong as they leave me alone. And don't try to get onnat with me"
"Love is love whether its a duck and a chicken or a male and a male. You anti gay marriage people need to get over yourself"
"i think marriage is a beautiful thing, no matter if its with a woman and man, man and man, or woman,and woman. gay marriage is looked at like a disease or some type of sin from hell, when in reality its just a title. people deserve to be happy with whomever they want hundreds of men and women commit suicide each year because they cant get married with the person they love. no one should be shunned away from a happy life,no one should be denied the right to live a happy life with their partner. gay marriage isint any different from marriage, the only thing different about it is the word 'gay' in it."
"Saying someone can't marry the person they love because it's against YOUR religion is like saying someone can't eat a donut because YOU'RE on a diet. In other words; ridiculous."
"We all tell ourselves this is the best country in the world. But when we act this way, we look foolish. I say let same sex couples get married and lets worry about other topics. Plain and simple!!!!"
"Every argument I've seen against same-sex marriage boils down to "homosexuality is wrong". By homosexuality they mean "homosexual acts" (sodomy). The supreme court ruled in Lawrence v Texas that there is no rational basis for the government to regulate sexual acts between consenting adults in the privacy of their own bedroom.The opponents of same sex marriage seem to assume that heterosexual married couples don't engage in sodomy.Horse feathersIf religious types want their church to tell them which sexual acts they can perform and with whom, that's fine. But those rules don't apply to someone who isn't a member of their congregation and our government isn't in the business of trying to make them apply.You in the anti-gay crowd say that god will punish sodomites. That's fine. Let him. Have a little faith. Surely you don't need to pass a secular law in order to mete out god's punishment. It's a pretty lame all-powerful being if you feel he needs you to do his dirty work for him. In the meantime, keep your religion out of my government and quit trying to get it to do the job that your god is supposed to be doing."
"I most definatley believe that same sex marriage should be allowed. I believe this because I honestly think we have no right to tell gays and lesbians how they can and should live their life. Also a lot of heterosexual marriage aren't as successful as they used to be. If these gays and lesbians truly love eachother we should let them go, it would bring down or divorce rate and we wouldn't be showing kids that its okay to discriminate against people that are different. So overall yes I am for gay marriage I don't care if you judge me because i'm related to one."
"If no one is being hurt by same sex couples then what's the problem. If you have a personal view to go with sum b******** you pulled out of your a** good for you. However, when you take the personal views and the bible views everyone can see same sex couples are just like every other person on Eath. Just with a different partner. The main point here is teach his own. It's thier choice to make. Some ass has no say in any of it."
"All people are entitled the same rights, liberties, and protections under the law. Also, because bigotry is kind of f***** up."
"You to be honest i am sick of all the bad comments about how no gays should adopt or be married! You love who you love wheather its a girl and a girl or a guy and a guy or bisexual or Transgender! Its just who you are! I support Gay marriage and support that gays should be aloud to adopt! Love is love NO MATTER WHAT!"
"Yea, god says in the bible that a man sleeping with another man is an abomination that is punishable by death, but the bible also says that kids that lie are abonimations and should be put to death and you dont see people argueing about that do you? NO! Gay marriage is not wrong and it is not abomination. People need to look other places then just the bible. Next time your walking down the street realize that 3 out of every 5 people walking down the same street as you are gay and they are not hurting anything.!"
"I agrre with you all the way!! No gays are hurting anything!"
"I personally am a pro. BUT- for all you people that are cans, why not? What's it matter to you if two guys or two gals love each other? You may not necessarily like it, but haven't you ever heard, "mind your own business?" It may be "sinful" or whatever, but why do you care? You don't like it- then you go ahead and be straight. It's their "sins." besides, aren't we all equal? This is going to be slavery all over again. My kids find it unbelievable that blacks were slaves. That's how it should be for their kids. They should ask us, "Grand(ma/pa), why didn't people like gays?" just like our kids ask about slavery. Also- look up gay in the dictionary. "Happy." That is what the partners are. Plain people that are happy. Happy and in love. Take the person that you love the most in this messed up world, and imaging that you can't be with them because of a stupid law (or lack of law). How do you feel? Not very good. Love is love. And love is happy. So love, is gay."
"I think gay marriage should b legal because not just cause I'm bi but because they should just let us be happy with who we want to be for the rest of our lives."
"The banning of gay marriage implies the idea that males and females are fundamentally different mentally, which is something that has been disproved many times, and leads to sexism and gender inequality."
"Bans are unconstitutional and it goes against the first and ninth amendment of the people denying us freedom of religion and any other written rights.Even though it is not written, doesn't mean it can't be protected."
"im am a 14 year old we are all people and we should be looking out for one another we all have the same right and just because someone loves another person of the same sex does not mean they are a bad person i bet if it was straight people being treated this way you would;t like it would you? saying no to gay marriage is aging no to love its NOT OKAY!! we only live once so if ur gunna sit their and worry about how people live their lives and worry about who their going to love or who they have to love it stupid to do. i am defenitly for gay marriage. Just think what if somone you truly loved was gay would u just leave them for it no i bet u would stick around if u don't then thats cruel judging someone for who they are is stupid why can't you just eccept people for who they are so everyone can be happy."
"Gay marriage should be legal. If I want to marry my girlfriend, I should be able to just as easily as the man down the street. I probably have better values and moral than the man a block over that beast his wife (his 3rd wife actually) but he can marry and I cant. Who is the better person exactly?"
"all men are supposed to be equals but why arent gays treated like people how is that fair"
"I believe a marriage Isn't between man and woman, but between love and love!"
"I am pro because who are we to say you can't marry the person you love."
"It doesn't matter what sex you are as long as you love each other thats all that maters people are mad because people of the same sex are in my eyes better at communicating taking care of children they are better at the wold"
"Even though I am a christian I do believe that gay people shouls be able to marry. For all who say God hates gays is wrong because God loves everyone. People who dont support it, fine but dont throw reilgon at the situation not everyones belifs are the same and its unfair. If you really are Christian you would know that the Bible says not to judge anyone only God judges, you are not God therfore you cannot judge. People belive in all sorts of things but it is not our place to dictate them. The Govt should not even be involed with marriage their focus should be war and anything else they have to deal with but marrige is is for the people and has nothing to do with Legislature.executive,or judicail (i probally didnt spell that right) So no i dont commened gay marrige but if that is what they person wnts to do then who am I to say no...who are you to say no..."
"Why does it matter what sex the parents are as long as a kid has a stable home to live is people should not be Sao sexist and grow up you don't have to marry a man or a women but another person might want to so just back off"
"No one should be able to dictate how someone else lives thier own life. If you want to go with gay marriage should be illegal because marriage is ment for creating more humans, then shouldn't people who can't have children not be allowed to get married? People need to just let it go, it's not your life so it shouldn't concern you. It is your right to not be gay and marry whom ever you like, so it should be someone else's right to be gay and marry whom ever they want to. People have been preaching equality for houndreds of years and sadly we still don't have it down. Everyone needs to live their own lives and stop denying someone else their freedom of happiness. I really don't know why people think they have the right to stand in the way of a strangers personal life style. It's like telling someone they can't like bananas becasue you don't, or they can't like broccoli because you don't, or they can't like chevy because you like ford... sounds prtty silly when you make the same situation a little simpler doesn't it."
"I am Pro because of The Right to Freedom Of Speech! No matter what there will always be gay people families and couples walking the streets why not just held the peace and legalize it and stop the war."
"What part of the 14th Amendment do people not understand?"
"Our natural rights also state that we have the right to pursue happiness."
"Gay people are humans too. The constitution states that we have the right to the pursuit of happiness. Since when can wediscriminate against people just because we have different beliefs than them. Its their choice and they can be however they want to be. People should be able to marry whoever they want to as long as they love eachother."
"If the bible wasn't against homosexuality, then i wouldn't care whether or not gay marriage is legal/illegal. At some point all states will allow gay marriage. And that is a fact. I just wish the gay people wouldn't shove this stuff into my face, especially having gay parades and things like that. That's all."
"Matt, you came here of your own free will and posted. No one 'shoved it in your face' (not that str8s don't do that too!).Re: the Bible - since America is not a theocracy, what the Bible says is as relevant to the secular law as what the Book of Tao says. Or the Book of Kells. Or the Q'uran. Or the Book of MoreMen. Or 'Dianetics', for that matter."
"its their life not yours so stay out of their life"
"Dear Chris,In all due intellectual courtesies and class, I say fancily "I KNOW, RIGHT???""
"Are you gay? No? Then why do you care?Why do you care whether gay marriage is legal?Why do you care whom other people love?Why do you care how other people live their lives?It's none of your business. Live your life, and let others live theirs.Some common arguments:"But the Bible..."Too bad. Dislike homosexuality all you want, but the United States of America is a SECULAR state. Religion or any of its scriptures has no authority in federal law."But it's unnatural..."1,500 species of animals other than humans also practice homosexuality. And they do it in nature, too, making it natural."But see, it can't produce babies..."And many heterosexual humans are sterile. Your point?"But the definition of marriage..."And you still call all your foodstuffs "meat" too? Why are you hanging on to such an antiquated definition of marriage then?"But I don't want my children to be around gays..."Oh please. You want to control how others live their lives when you can't even control your own children? This is just pathetic."
"Out of all the cons I think this one caught my eye the most."
"America is a free place and gay people should have the freedom to choose just as straight people do. How can you con someone's happiness, their life? Get real people. People who post cons are afraid of differences!"
"America is a free place. Gay people ARE allowed to choose just as straight people do. I do NOT "con" other peoples happiness or their life. I am real. Vive la difference! When you ask to legalize same sex marriage but do not ask for the same benefits for single people, you are continuing the current system of inequality. Shame on you. When you ask for marriage benefits for all couples because they are a couple, that is not an end to discrimination, but a start of discrimination. Shame on you a second time. One more strike and you're out!"
"I think they should get married. it is their lives. no one will take that away from them. if they are happy together than don't judge them or bother them. I accept that because I don't judge they personalities."
"As a wise person once said on Tumblr, "Voting against gay marriage is like ordering a piece of cake at a restaurant and having a complete stranger be like 'waiter, cancel that cake.'" This is so true in so many ways. People who have no business in other people's affairs are interfering and causing despair just because of their own views. Imagine if you loved somebody so much that you wanted to spend the rest of your life with them. Have a picture in your head? Then imagine that some person that you don't know, and has no relation to you at all, says that you can't marry the love of your life because they don't believe it's right. You would be angry, no? Well, that's how gays feel almost every day."
"why not let gay/lesibians marry ? put yourself in their shoes what if somebody was telling you that you couldnt marry the person you wanted to be with ? its the same thing. everybody needs to drop this whole big thing about gays not being able to marry..."
"gay marriage should be legal because everybody in the world should have equal rights and right now the people in the homosexual parts of society are not allowed to exercise their right to marry who ever they want"
"i am human let me live!!!"
"Marriage is not a religious right, it is a civil contract issued by a court. Also, the nation cannot conduct laws solely on religious grounds: that is against the First Amendment (Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion,...). America isn't a theocracy and no one's religion should inflict in anyone else's life. I also believe it is blasphemous to conduct God our Lord as hating any person for something no one can alter. Believing God throws gay people to the fires is showing only that you believe they should be.I hope that any person loving another should not be condemned for it, but embraced, and that their partnership is allowed to be recognized by the government even if the public refuses to. God bless the US."
"God does not hate gay people but their gay choice. It is a sin like any other sin such as adultery. If the person decides to live in this sin then they can't stand before God as justified and will end up in hell except they repent and trust in Christ. Look i'm a sinner and without trusting in Christ and repenting I won't make into heaven either. If you don't believe that God deals with sin in this manner then explain why He flooded the world in Noah's day, why He destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah, and why Jesus had to die on the cross for sins. Homosexuality is a choice and can be changed, for there are many gays that become straight"
"gay couples have all the right in the world to get married. first of all , for all the people who seem to be so against it , its not hurting you. two people of the same sex getting married has absolutely no affect on your close minded life. if marrying or loving some one of the same sex is what we want , leave us alone. its not like we're taking away your marriage rights. just et us be happy , but please dont try to make it seem like its an abomination. if its god you're worrying about , you have no right to judge a gay person. you have no place in this world to judge people for who they love. its their own choice. not yours."
"THEY ARE HUMANS. THIS IS A FREE COUNTRY GOD DAMMIT. LET THEM BE GAY! THEY SHOULD BE TREATED LIKE EVERYONE!"
"5 words: Separation of church and state.That is all."
"That is a very good point, seeing as religion is a primary factor as motivation against gay marriage, however the state sees their legislation as being just because its is regarding the "legal and civil union" of the same sex couple by the power of the state. This is an absolutely ridiculous argument, seeing as it is the discrimination of a minority group."
"What if it was switched. What if it was illegal to get married heterosexually? What if it was you who was told that you couldn't love who you want to like others do to people's opinions. Just think about that. #ByeHaters #ProLGBT"
"People need to wake up and understand what has happened to them. Whether people are gay or not and want to be married isn't the problem. The fact that a group of people have made it illegal to marry without their permission is the real problem! In fact almost everything in the U.S. is illegal!"
"I think that people have the right to do as they please. I am not gay, but I support those who are. When we talk about america being free, we are not completely because not everyone can get married to who they want to."
"Everyone deserves to be able to marry whoever they choose to. I'm a girl and I would love to marry a girl. I'm bi, but prefer girls. There is nothing wrong with that."
"yes because people should be allowed to marry who they want because it s their life!!!"
"I have so many friends who are gay and I imagine how awful it would be if I had a gay child who couldn't have all the benefits of a heterosexual couple, such as marriage with his/her loved one, burial next to this individual, ect, ect, and I feel really sad. I want them and those like them to have all the thing I get to have because I'm heterosexual. Also, I really think its not my business who you marry as long as that person is a consenting adult. I wish EVERYONE happiness, no matter what gender you partner is. ^_^"
"For all you cons the reason you dont want gay marriage is because you are homophobic and don't want anyone to be happy but you and your breeders i say this cuz my mom is gay and she is very happy with her partner so stop being homos and let other people be happy to no matter if they straight bi or gay"
"pro i think gay marriage should be perfectly legal due to many reasons. I beilve that is shouldnt affect anyone else"
"I'm pro because everyone has the same rights to happiness as anyone else in this country. Also because I'm gay."
""I believe that the government should give people blond benefits because I have the same rights to happiness as anyone else in this country. Also because I'm blond.""
"People who are against it, chill. People should be allowed to do whatever they want to do with their lives. So what if two males get married? Is it the end of the world? Are you, in any way or form, harmed? Does the stock market crash? I think not. Any bans on gay rights should be deemed unconstitutional. Neither Congress nor any state should have the power to deny a couple, no matter what gender, the standard rights. Does a gay couple defy your religion? Yes? Guess what? Guess what? In the eyes of the constitution, we couldn't care less. Boom! Nowhere in the constitution does it say that gay couples cannot marry or are to be denied basic marriage rights. All men are created equal. No matter what they chose to do with their life, as long as they are loyal citizens, THEY ARE EQUAL."
"It is a basic right to marry who you love, as for "ruining the institution of marriage", there are many other things that are actually taking their toll on it."
"Seperation of Church and State. That's it. Marriage is for everyone. Love is Love. It doesn't need to be more complicated than that."
"I think everyone has the right to be with, or marry whomever they want. I mean, guys think its okay for a girl to be with another girl, but if two guys are together, it's disgusting. I honestly don't see what's wrong with it. If you're a girl and you don't like girls, don't be with one. If you're a guy and you don't like guys, don't be with one. It's as simple as that."
"yes because love is love and I don't see why it matters to anyone else when two people want to be together. As simple as that. Put yourself in someone else's shoes!"
"Yes gay marriage should be legal. It is brutal to deny people the chance to be happy with whoever they love.Bible beaters quote verses, but god himself never wrote any of these quotes, allowed or forbade anything. I think the general idea would be "Love one another and let love -it makes for a more peaceful world". Paid memberships to churches make no one holier.The insurance companies and all the crying parties, what are they losing exactly? They would add spouses in their plans and policies anyway. Do they have to pick what gender they insure?"
"It says in the constitution all men will be treated as an equal. so why not treat those who like the same gender as them as equals."
"The prevention of homosexual marriage goes against the very institution of democracy throughout the country. People should be able to control the love in their own lives."
"I am pro-same sex marriage because I believe everyone should have equal rights under the law and there's no reason to be against it. I'm a Christian, but I completely support the legalization of same sex marriage because I know it's right."
"I support gay marriage because gays, lesbians, bi-s, etc...deserve the same rights as everyone else. Anyone against this for religious reasons is a hypocrite. The bible says not to cut your hair, or eat shellfish. Besides, you don't have a right to tell people not to eat donuts just because you're on a diet."
"I agree the bible also says not to discriminate either!"
"There is absolutely nothing that is wrong with this. Religion should play no key role in this, as separation of church and state. Religion should also be kept out of politics, and not have decisions like this based on such a thing. If you can practice YOUR religion, they can practice THEIR sexuality."
"Of course it should be legal."
"It does no harm to others and, on the contrary, offers stability to those who want to have their relationship taken to the highest level of love. In the end, love is all that matters and arguments against it due to 'procreation' being the reason for marriage is poppycock. Many married people don't have children and many more shouldn't have them. I have seen extremely well-adjusted children grow in households with same-gender parents. If the home is stable, regardless of gender preference, the child(ren) thrive. This is not only about making those who love within their own gender able to care for each other in the same way a heterosexual couple can when in a hospital. It's not about 'forcing' anyone to be anything other than who they are. It's about finally acknowledging someone's preference without judgment."
"It is unfair to allow certain groups of people certain rights. How would these married heterosexual persons like it if things were switched and they were not allowed the same rights as gays? What if a heterosexual woman wanted to be with the person she loved, a man, but was born in another country and not a US citizen and couldn't stay? How would this effect them? What if a heterosexual man was denied access to their dying female partner in a hospital? What if a heterosexual woman was left penniless after her male partner had passed away? How is it "right" to not allow people to love whom they choose and be allowed the same benefits as other persons in the same country, or the world for that matter? People are people. We are not animals. We should have the same access to the same things as any other person. If you define marriage as between a man and a women, why is it acceptable if a man has had a sex change to a woman and then marries a man? How is it acceptable for married couples to divorce? Why is acceptable to discriminate so bluntly in the USA? Is this what we've learned from our past? Let's let one another live as we choose and mind our own business. My love for another is of no concern of yours. :)"
"Not everyone can use the Bible as there standard. I don't. And also, adoption is an option for couples who want kids. Plenty of already born children want a home. I was raised in a home without a dad."
"Saying someone can't get married when they're of the same sex because it's against your religion is like saying someone can't eat a donut because you're on a diet"
"The thing about the CON side is that most of them they don't understand that same-sex couple relationships' have the same traits as heterosexual relationships. They can both be bad or good. Not every one is -the- one. Gay marriage is the same as heterosexual marriage, but with two people of the same gender. If the sole purpose of marriage is for raising/making children. Then let's talk about all those wives out there who can't conceive. Or the Mrs. and Mr.'s who say that they don't want to have children? The single parent who's able to take care of their kid and support the family? Or how about those who adopt children instead of making their own? The children are raised based on the beliefs and support of the parents. Not on what their sexuality is. There are gender roles in which the man in the family is the strong one who makes decisions, and the woman obeys the man and takes after the children and the household. But there are families in which those roles are swapped. Which means that all people have the same range of personalities as the next one. And by looking at a child, you couldn't tell if they had gay parents because of how they act. Because it doesn't affect it."
"The purpose of marriage benefits is to promote child bearing. Since opposite sex couples produce the most children, we give them marriage benefits single people and same sex couples can produce children, with a little outside help, but opposite sex couples produce by far the most children. Single people actually produce the second most children per capita, so they should be second in line to receive marriage benefits. If you think group benefits are poorly targeted, are you proposing targeted benefits in place of group benefits? That is arguing against same sex marriage group benefits too. We give dependent tax deductions to everyone for raising children, so that is a poor argument for same sex marriage."
"Give me one reason to not allow same-sex couples to be recognized as married that doesn't derive from your religious beliefs."
"I'll give you 2 reasons. Equality and discrimination. If we give marriage benefits to all couples but not single people, that is inequality. It is no better than giving benefits to just one of the 3 groups of adults, opposite sex couples, same sex couples, or single people. Discrimination is defined as when you have inequality and the group receiving benefits not doing anything to earn those benefits. So we have to look at what the 3 groups do to earn their benefits. Opposite sex couples earn their benefits by producing children. Same sex couples and single people can produce children too, but opposite sex couples produce the most children on average. If we gave all couples benefits because they ARE a couple, that would be discrimination. ARE is a "state of being" not something that one produces to earn benefits. Both of these reasons are secular and not from religious beliefs."
"it is aginst the law if we gave everybody everything that was aginst the law then we would be one screwed up country full of STDS and AIDS thats why."
"It's simple really. It doesn't effect you! Think about the reality here. These people (and I do mean people) deserve to be together in love, and have the rights that straight couples have. I have gay, and lesbian friends, and I feel bad that these amazing people are being treated like second rate citizens, because of who they are. I am a huge proponent of gay marriage rights, and I am a straight man backing this. This boils down to separation of church and state (let's face facts that it is religion that is stopping this right), and that is not allowed in the Constitution! I support equal rights for all!"
"Marriage isn't just about raising kids in a dual parent environment. It should be more about tying the knot because you love someone, gosh darn it. And nothing is more pressing in today's society than tinkering with gay relationship labels. God bless America"
"gay marriage should be legalized flat out it is infingement of people's rights if it is banne"
"They can't control their feelings"
"I think that gay marriage is a right just as any other marriage between a man and a woman is because, after reading a book about near death experiences it tells of a priest who saw God who told him that it was OK to be gay as long as you had faith in the lord. When the bible talks about 'a man laying with another man' it's really talking about a man committing adultery. I have had several clashes with my parents about gay rights and recently came out of the closet. It is time for change.The is mostly a difficulty with those who have grown up under the wrong phrasing in the bible."
"i get that everybody is entitled to their own opinion, but if it's negative or insulting towards gay marriage why can't you keep it to yourself. Gay people read these comments too and im pretty sure they don't need to see your ignorant comment."
"because people dont want to see that kinda stuff around the world its gross and should stay illegal"
"Gay marriage should be legal because in todays world homosexuality is an accepted lifestyle in most countries throughout the world and it has been around since the ancient Greeks, Romans, Chinese, Egyptians, Babylonians, even the Indian tribes throughout the Americas have traditionally practiced it. The arguement that the bible forbids gay marriage and homosexuality in general is very vague because Jesus never actually said that homosexuality is wrong. Besides all of that, we are a freedom of religion and forbidding gay marriage would violate the 1st amendment."
"I am pro because simply "love is love." Love is pure, beautiful, and the most wonderful feeling one can experience. Why should anyone deny that right for anyone else. The marriage between any couple doesn't impact my life, therefor it is not my business. Give love a chance! Let's stop oppressing each other over outdated prejudices and encourage a society built on peace, love, and equality. As a young straight woman, I vow to not get married until it's legal for everyone. If some of us are oppressed, essentially we all are."
"I think there should be gay marriages because if a person really cares about another person that is gay then they should be allowed to get married... Who cares about who they marry... Some people just make me so mad because it is not any of their business to know"
"does any one know the constitution it says that we have the right to persue happyness so if loving a nother man or loving another woman is your persute of happyness then let us do what we want and treat us like a normal human because we are just like you a little diferent"
"Love is a feeling, anyone can feel it. so therefore, love is love no matter what gender."
"Is "god" all that we follow? Everyone CON says, "god this, god that".. Its not JUST "GOD"! BE YOUR OWN PERSON! Stop saying, "how "god" is all that we follow!" ITS NOT! Stop thinking that it's just "god"! I am not hating on religion, but he is not the only person we "follow", plus he created us! He made us! HOW WE ARE!Everyone is also saying "the original definition of "couple" is a women and a man", but nothing is very original anymore!"
"It is the groups choice. If someone does not want it than they should just not do it. The group should have the freedom to marry who they want"
"Being gay is not a choice, you are born that way. So why would God create gay people if he wasn't okay with the idea of it? And don't go and say that it is a choice, why would kids be committing suicide because they "don't want to be gay anymore," if it was a choice? Wouldn't they just stop being gay then? It doesn't work that way. LOVE IS LOVE. Everyone is entitled to it, and to be happy."
"Love is love! It comes from your heart and your head!!! What if our president was gay? THEN WHAT?! LEAGALIZE IT!!!"
"I think everyone should be free and be able to love who ever they want too. Love is Love."
"As a Dane i find it mind boggling how a country that is supposedly a democracy, founded not only with firm principles that people have freedom of religion. In order words the government or the state cannot prevent you from exercising your religious believes. However religion is supposed to be secularized, so that the people is also free from the oppression of religion. Not supporting same sex marriage is the same as racism. It falls under the same category as those who wanted to keep slavery. Oppressing people because of what they were born as, is undemocratic and it is disgusting. In other words "gay" rights are CIVIL RIGHTS either you all of them for EVERYBODY or you have none. Besides if the fundamental protestant influence was smaller in the States then this would not be an issue. If you interpret the bible then it is 100% compatible with same sex marriage. Taking religious text literal is dangerous and medieval, grow up America! All over Europe we have protestant priests which interpret the bible in a wide variety, they are well educated and believe in evolution! Religion is between each individual and whatever faith they have. Period. Your fears should not oppress others. Hope you get your rights, sincerely Mike"
"Pro because its our decision to be gay if we want"
"Why shouldn't it be? This country was founded on the right of equality for all. Also, while it is said to be an abomination in the bible, THE SEPERATION OF CHURCH AND STATE! It's in the Constitution. A benefit would be less children in foster care, due to the fact that they couldn't have a child of their own, they would adopt one and reduce the level of children that are up for adoption"
"I don't understand why people are so against gay marriage! It isn't hurting anybody and I just wanna say you shouldn't be thinking negative of gays, nobody asked what you thought about someone's love life! People should just learn to accept and respect. We are human beings and we aren't perfect individuals. Just accept as for who we are, your nothing special that the whole world will desiccate to do whatever you say. Love is love people, and if you can't see that you are just heartless."
"First off their are absolutely no punishments for being homosexual in the bible, in any way whatsoever. now for divorce it says to stone the women to death. do we do that? of COURSE NOT! that would be "wrong" but instead we discriminate against gays because that is also "wrong." my sister is a lesbian and do i care no because it isn't a choice she chose to love who she wished and love is love PERIOD!!!!"
"well, this is mostly religious belief going on here, so if some of the national churches agree on it, then how come they havent made it legal then? The Bible isnt the rules here, the constution is. and nowhere does it say that it isnt allowes to happen."
"Im a pro because love had no gender , I also feel as if you should be able to marry who you want as long as your happy."
"people are people they are just like u and me it just means they like the same sex so don't judge people it isn't right.!"
"i am pro because i have family that are gay and the are truely in the with the preson the are with and its the same as a girl and guy getting married its called love people ow are u going to keep true love apart its not right"
"I agree! No one should have stop loving that person they love so everyone will like them and i have alot of gays in my family as well! They are so happy together!"
"people should be allowed to marry whoever they want. Love is love. <3"
"You cannot control who people do and do not love. Let them marry whom they choose."
"What is homosexuality? Even if it is a lifestyle choice (not that I think it is), I can't seem to think of a single reason against it, apart from certain interpretations of a 2000 year old book with dubious validity. People should be allowed to marry (where marrying is defined as a legally sanctioned bond between two human beings with mutual informed consent) whomever they please."
"Gay marriage hurts no one, and would allow for a more open and happy society. Banning gay marriage because you don't like the same sex is like banning jelly donuts because you prefer glazed. How do jelly donuts affect you? Just stick to glazed. How does gay marriage affect you? Just stick to being heterosexual if you don't like it. Let others be happy."
"Im pro because I think that all people should be able to marry whom ever they love and carefor"
"gay marriage should be legal. every one has the same rights for everything else so why cant it be the same with marriage? the love between two people is stronger then any other feeling in the world. the only people who are keeping this law from passing is people who think that just because they cant have children its not right. there are gay couples who will adopt unwanted children and some that will go to a center to make them pregnant .because they still want a child but just don't feel sexually or emotionally attracted to the opposite gender. also the other people who appose of this law are religios people. gad made you the way you are and that means that if you re gay that god loves you because he made you that way. you don't choose your born with that feeling."
"i do agree that gays can get married it everybody choose to do what they want."
"I believe in gay rights because they are as human as anyone else. Why should we care about your religious beliefs. I dont care what your "God" says. He is your "God" not mean. If god thinks their wrong why did he make them. Anyways what should you care about someone else's lives. why should you care. There not you so dont think about it. We dont live long so let them do what they please. And yes they cant produce children but what is the going to change they cant now and never will. So marriage wont change anything. They only thing it changes is that they can have a piece of paper saying they are married. Thats it. A piece of paper. So why should it matter. One piece of paper wont hurt you. So grow up and live your own life. Your wasting yours."
"It is already legal to have emotional and sexual relations with anyone that you want. We are allowed to live with and find happiness with anyone that we want. So why do people want the little piece of paper? They want social approval of their lifestyle or they want the monetary benefits of marriage. That little piece of paper changes those two things. I oppose social approval of the same sex lifestyle because they do not seek give approve of my lifestyle as a single person, If you seek marriage benefits for couples but not single people, that is inequality. One little piece of paper will hurt me because when people ask for the economic benefits of marriage, I have to fund those benefits with my tax dollars. When you ask for my money, I will fight you forever."
"Why is this still an issue? I was an early bloomer and wound up in the closet for 10 years. This is really unhealthy- I almost killed myself! When I finally came out, I felt so much better. I wouldn't have had to be in that situation if people were more accepting. People shouldn't have to come out- they should just be able to fall in love. Besides, this is America. There's a separation between Church and State, so I don't have to give a barnacle about what your Bible says about my love. In this day and age, we need all the love we can get. Who cares who it's between?"
"Lots of opposition for same-sex marriage has come from Christians. This shouldn't surprise anyone, though, because during other civil right movements, such as giving women the right to vote and giving African Americans equal protection under the law, Christians said," It is wrong to give them these rights, and this is where the Bible says it is!" They said that women shouldn't be given the right to vote because Eve was the first to eat from the forbidden fruit and then influenced man to eat it too, blah blah blah. Now, however, I doubt you'd find many Christians that that think women shouldn't have equal rights. The same thing is happening now; we're going through another civil rights movement that the the majority of Christians don't like. They again pull out their Bible and state quotes against why certain people shouldn't be given rights, and again they will lose this battle. But not all Christians are are against same-sex marriage. I'm not, nor are my very Christian friends, who believe that same-sex marriage is fine for a number of reasons supported by the Bible, some thinking that when Jesus died some rules, such as not eating pork and same-sex marriage, went away. Someone's beliefs should not dictate someone else's life."
"Gay Civil Union, yes, I support. But I will never be able to call it "Marriage"."
"Gay marriage should be legal because everyone deserves to be married if they believe they want to marry. Heterosexuals can be assholes and still get married. Don't blame us. Blame the heterosexuals who keep having homosexual children. It seems to me that more and more people who believe that marriage equality shouldn't be allowed, are more close minded people who haven't had their natural born rights taken from them when they clearly deserve it. I am only 14, and I was raised to believe that everyone deserves their own rights. Which was the right way to be raised."
"Of course I am. The bible thumping argument means nothing in a secular nation. And as of right now, the Indiana State Senate is attempting to add a gay marriage ban to the Indiana Constitution, which by definition would be unconstitutional. If you are against this type of legislation, please follow the link and sign a petition against it. Thank you for your time."
"I am prop because there is nothing wrong with being gay. if anything, we should love that people are gay! if people love who they love, what is wrong with that! support Gay marriage!!!!!!!!!"
"it says in the constitution that separation of church and state so using the bible is a irrelevant objection honestly the bible isn't useful in this argument also the bible says not to mix any types of different cloth yet we still do also They say that if a man and women occur adultery they are to be stoned to death yet they don't It does not matter who said what in bible or not all it matters if you are happy who are we to deny happiness to someone."
"i think pro because people should marry who they want or else they will be miserable and lonely forever"
"becuase everyone should be able to get married to the ones they love and every one should have equal marriage right"
"Love is blind, it sees no gender!"
"I think it should be legal because if people want to like the opposite sex and be with them forever then I think they should. Yes, people are entitled to their opinions, but I think if being with the opposite sex means your happy then so be it. If it makes you happy, do it. I mean, I'd rather be with the person who makes me happy than to be with someone who does not or to be alone. Gay Marriage should be legal! Love knows no limit."
"People should be able to marry the person they love, just like heterosexuals. If they love each other, let them be together and happy. It doesn't affect others at all by 2 people wanting to be married."
"love is love"
"It should be allowed due to Lincoln's famous quote,"All are created equal." Going against it would be in violation of that."
"Really people should be aloud to be happy no madder how they are. If you think you really need a dad to make your child okay that is bull crap because I don't have a dad and i turned out just fine! Everyone just needs to leave gay people alone. They did nothing to you they are all human. I wonder what the world would be like if God was gay. Would you still love him unconditionally like he loves you?"
"I believe that they have as much of a right as I do to love freely."
"Because it is the same as hetero sexual love, just same gender people."
"I say yes because i support gay marriage"
""Can we stop the crap about the bible? Moses also said that a woman can't wear that which pertains to a man. That you can't eat pork or wear polyester. That if your kid utters a swear word to his parent that you're supposed to stone him to death in public. That you're supposed to bury your leftovers after 3 days. Moses said those things because he needed to establish a difference between the Canaanites and the freed slaves so that people who came into contact with them would know that they are Jews, not Canaanites. It's right there in your book, homosexuality isn't an abomination in the eyes of god, it's an abomination to the purity of the new nation of Israel."Perfectly said."
"i think that gay people should be able to be gay if they want to... in fact... IT ISNT EVEN GAY! Its called normal people!they are just like us in every way, the only difference is... THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE they should have the same rights just as other people do... just because they sleep with the same sex dont mean that they have to be torchured and not have the right to get married! I know and highly beleive that they should legalize "gay" marrages in every state. Its not a gay wedding, its just a wedding! I would love to see people not make fun of people who are "different", even though there is no such thing as normal. :D All Love, No Hate!"
"Why can a straight person marry but a "gay" person can't?Sense when does the government control other peoples lives?"
"I am pro because it's none of my business how others live their lives and I could not care less about petty religious beliefs. Maybe when people start following everything the Bible says, then the people that currently nitpick at it would seem more reasonable. Separation of Church and state truly needs to be enforced, as religion is a PRIVATE matter, and in no way related to the freedoms and welfare of an entire country of nearly 340 million people. Get off of your high, hypocritical horses, and stop denying people the rights your take advantage of just because they're not exactly like you."
"I'm pro cuz' "marriage" is unnatural! People created marriage , not nature! Nature did not create marriage and you don't have to get married if you want kids! To make kids all you have to do is sex"
"i 100% believe gay marriage is beautiful."
"Love is Love and we shouldn't be judged for who we love. I personally have friends that are bi and lez and they deserve to marry who they love and cherise. POINT BLANK."
"They should be able to get married! It's there rights to love and marry who they want!"
"You do not have to believe gay marriage is good. You have to understand that it cannot be illegal.Let me explain.The reason you oppose gay marriage is because your religion tells you it is bad. That's fine. However, in this country there is a separation of religion and government, meaning laws are not and cannot be made based on religion. If gay marriage is illegal, the government, has combined religion with government, violating the first amendment right to freedom of religion."
"LOVE IS LOVEThere are people starving, being excessively abused, dying of illness, why are we spending any of our time worrying about which human gets to marry which human?"
"I believe gay marriage should be legalized because it is something to reunites a couple. Just as heterosexual couples, we too, should be able to be happy and exchange last names."
"Everyone deserves the love of their life. I am disgusted that anyone could find anything immoral about that."
"People should love who they want to love without being judged for it. It doesn't matter if it is against god! I am a christian too people! But I don't discriminate. It is cruel to say it is wrong. There are many things in the bible that we ignore! The bible was written in the olden days- when people were very, very close minded about everything."
"Love is love. Marriage is marriage. Happiness is happiness. The fact that society has the audacity to put restrictions on some ones happiness is just absurd. Being gay is not a choice, you cannot just simply chose to be gay. Gay is developing feelings for the same sex.. In this world you think every one is going to be the same, have feelings for the other gender? No! God made us who we are for a reason. We can learn to except it, and embrace it, which most of us do and that's why we have the battle we have now for gay rights.. Same sex marriage is a civil right. all I have to say."
"Alright. Addressing the financial arguments: Perhaps allowing gay marriage will cost some extra money, but it also took a huge toll on the economy when we ended slavery. We still did it because it was the right thing to do. Addressing the sanctity of marriage aspects: Marriage is a sacred as you make it. It is a commitment between your loved one and yourself. No one getting divorced or married is going to change the institution within your household. Just like other people eating fattening food hasn't led to your hips doubling in size. "Traditional Marriage"? Marriage in bible times consisted of "Give me the ox and you can have my daughter. If she doesn't bleed the first time you have sex, we can stone her to death." And who in the hell cares if gay people aren't reproducing. Do the words hunger, poverty, orphans, foster children, and deforestation due to over-crowding populations mean anything to you?"
"I don't see how what other's do affects the people are against it ."
"I think that gay marriage should be legal everywhere cuz people should be able to love who they want to no matter what."
"love is blind, it sees no gender"
"Gay marriage is a civil matter. there should be no reason why it shouldn't be allowed."
"Gay couples deserve the same treatment as straight couples because they are not inferior to them in anyway. Gay marriage doesn't hurt anyone in any way. We have separation of church and state so religion shouldn't be brought into this at all."
"They are people too, everybody deserves to marry who they want no matter if it is the same sex."
"same sex marriage should be legalized! this is form of discrimination and it violates the 1st Amendment. And it honestly does not take a men and women to raise a child! it takes a two persons to take care of a child them people being the same sex has NOTHING to do with them not being able to do anything like not taking care of a child in specific.it takes a gene to be gay its not an option for you people that are talking about that the way they were born was by men and women! i don't see much a bug to anyone we are different and no one is going to change the way we are no matter what we just want our rights to! i wanna marry my couple when i get older honestly im still small and my way i am seeing this now is always going to stay."
"I am straight and completely for gay marriage, but what I really want to know is why other heterosexuals think they will be affected by this topic. In reality, I believe what members of the LGBT community do with their lives is completely between them and none of my or anyone elses business! Really, it doesn't make sense to turn a homosexual couple- in love, away from tieing the knot."
"people should be able to live their lives as they want to... my grandma once told me "Being mad at someone because their lifestyle doesnt go with your religion, is like being mad at someone for eating a cookie because YOUR on a diet..""
"I am Pro Gay Marriage because love is love and it doesn't matter what gender the people are. Saying it's bad just because the Bible said so is ignorant. I guess nobody should cut their hair either,the Bible is against that too. Keeping gay marriage illegal goes against the main point of America which is freedom. I am Bi,and if I want to marry a girl one day,that's my choice to marry who I love,and I hope by then as I am only 12,the ignorance of our society will have worn off. Also,same sex marriage can have many benefits,as gay men and lesbian couples are more likely to adopt children. I think love is something beautiful and sacred,and there should be no laws stopping love. There are so many things people should be worried about stopping with laws,like SMOKING! When is the last time anyone got cancer from a Gay Marriage? Exactly. Never. So why is this legal? Why does gender matter in love?"
"Can I just point out to all the people quoting the same tired Leviticus quote which, by the way, has been and still is used by the KKK in justifying their hatred of gays, Leviticus also says that trimming your beard is sinful, that lobsters and crabs and pork and rabbit are all sinful to eat or even touch. The Bible overall says a lot of things that are flat out wrong. As a devout Christian, I have no problem acknowledging that a lot of the things the bible says are ridiculous. For example, it also says that if a man cheats on his wife or vice versa, they should BOTH be out to death. Does that seem reasonable? No. Because it is not. As wonderful as it is, the Bible is NOT to be taken completely literally, and it can in fact be wrong. And in this case, it is. Homosexuality is completely natural. It occurs in dozens of different species in nature. Homophobia, however, occurs in only one. I consider that to be far more unnatural. None of this Bible talk should matter anyways, as there is SUPPOSED to be a separation of church and state. Religious beliefs should never have come into play on this issue in America in the first place, and they're hurting progress. Gay people have all the same rights as straight, and this should be legal."
"i dont think its right to takeawy someons rights and i dont like that people are rude about it."
"Love is blind and knows no bounds. Love does not discriminate or judge. Love is accepting and appreciating that someone has found happiness and it shouldn't matter who. To be fully seen by somebody, then, and be loved anyhow - this is a human offering that can border on miraculous"
"The Constitution, among other things, states clearly - equal treatment for all (Americans)."
"i believe in gay marriage because it expresses the love of another person .....it should be allowed"
"Everyone should have a right to be with each other and have the benifits of marriage."
"If a man and a woman can be together, then why should two people of the same sex not be together? They say that the United States gives equal rights. It is NOT. If you truly love someone even if they're from the same gender, then why not? They're not evil, and they won't harm you. I hope. But still, everyone should be given the chance to be who they want to be."
"As American citizens, we all have equal rights. Well, we have equal rights in regard to the law anyway. Becoming legally married has many benefits and is also economical. Our country has always been controlled by the throngs of Christian religion. This isn't necessarily bad. However, one may view homosexuality as an evil because that is how their religion specifies it to be. But many others, like myself, believe that homosexuality isn't something to loathe. My question for people who disagree with legally allowing for gay couples to marry is: why do you care so much? What is it to you if two mutually exclusive people who love each other want to marry? You have no business in their private lives. Just let people get married! I have no idea why this is still an issue in the 21st century. I would have thought people would be beyond this by now."
"SUPPORTTHEGAYS Gay rights aren't just for gays, they affect all of us. It helps create a progressive nation that will prove that not all Americans are heartless. Gays are people too, but when we deny their basic rights, we become the cruel nation the world has come to know. It is important to allow everyone to do what they want no matter the circumstance. We are a democracy and most of this nation (and this website) support gay rights."
"I think it's really funny that the only thing people have a that being gay is wrong is because the bible says so. My god is accepting of everyone not just certain people. And if what I was taught in church is true then the people who judge will go to he'll not the people that are with someone they love. Church is all about families so why can't you people just accept the fact that being gay isn't wrong. If being gay is wrong than being straight is not right either. There's no said in stone thing that says a boy and a girl is right so yeah..."
"I'm all for gay marriage. One of my closest friends is gay and I couldn't care less. But here's the thing. While the bible may says stuff against homosexuals, it also says "Do not judge, or you shall be judged" and also, if god hates gays, then why did he make them that way. Think about your actions and words before you speak"
"Yes, it should be legal, it unethical to think that just because it is different, it is wrong."
"Discriminating gay marriage rights based on the religious beliefs of a particular group of people is completely ignorant. Not taking into consideration the happiness of other people is utterly dumb, whether their sexual preference is of the same or opposite sex. Denying a fellow American the right to be happy and making a life decision like that for them is just an example of how narrow-minded people are becoming. Open up your mind. Bringing in the discussion of reproduction and economic positions within the couple is irrelevant. Not everybody is gay, reproduction will continue, and it's only an extra body part, or a body part is lacking. Stop being ignorant and judgmental."
"I do see where the cons are coming from it different its change but they need to open there eyes and realize change is all around us it has always been women used to not be able to vote now that can women used to not be able to get an education past 8th grade maybe not even that and African american slaves used to not be free but that's changed two so wake up and realize that a man and a man and a women and a women should be able to get married anywhere its gonna happen someday why not today"
"Gay marriage is great people argue that god is against gay marriage but what people don' realize is that god didn't write the bible a man did and while i believe most of it is accurate people make mistakes."
"OKAY why should we not let gay people get married like its not going to kill everybody just for gays to get married...SO GET OVER IT!!!"
"Yes gay marriage should be legal because people should be able to love who ever they want, they are who they are not who you want them to be. Is it really bothering you that much that you must be against their life. don't be a jerk. LOVE IS LOVE NO MATTER WHO YOU MARRY"
"America is a country founded upon the idea of religious freedom and therefore nothing that the bible or any other religious book should have any governing power in the U.S. However many gay Americans are being denied marriage which the supreme court ruled a 'basic human right' in Loving v. Virginia in 1967. The reason for this is because of the teachings of the bible despite the fact that many other teachings have been neglected or ignored by the majority of christens/christen churches. The large majority of anti-gay marriage reasons is because it is against the bible or other personal or religious beliefs, but newsflash, America is not governed by the bible and is totality indifferent to the beliefs of a church. There are other arguments that saying that homosexuality is unnatural but homosexual behavior can be found in a wide variety of animals. More people insist that it can't be ok because couples were meant to reproduce but looking at the vastly overpopulated Earth, a couple that chooses to adopt an unloved child is nothing but good for humanity. Lastly i will state the reason why I support gay marriage. It is simply the right thing to do. Gays are human and there is nothing wrong with them and i hate seeing discrimination"
"I can't even fathom the logic of the people who say that gay marriage should be illegal because it says so in the bible. By that logic, should atheists or Buddhists, who don't believe in the bible, be allowed to marry?"
"Because it's none of mine or anyone else s business what two consenting adults do in their own private time."
"I am really sick of seeing hateful Pro & Con comments. I am a Christian. Was not raised that way, I chose it myself. Do I think that gay marriage should be legal, yes. Why? Because there is a separation of church and state, period. Cons: If we outlaw gay marriage, why do we allow other churches, that are not based around our religion, to open their doors? How is porn legal? I could go on all day. Hypocritical thinking. Pros: Please don't lump all Christians or other religious groups together, not all of us are hateful and preach things we don't even fully understand ourselves. The bible isn't my religion, Jesus is. Anyways, the point is, Pros, don't assume every Christian hates gays or is an extremist. Cons, stop using old testament word as your stepping stone, that was what we thought God wanted. Jesus came and changed it all. Bottom line, no matter religious, non-religious, pro, con, etc. treat others the way you would want to be treated. If my son told me he was gay one day, I would love him and support him no matter what, but I would hurt for him because he has to grow up in a world, where no matter what you do or say, you will be judged so harshly."
"I'm pro because you choose who you're heart wants and if you fall in love with some1 who is the same sex why are there people able to discriminate?"
"A person is free to follow whatever ridiculous faith they want, but it should not affect millions of people. If you want to affect someone else's life based on a quote in a book that's been rewritten and misinterpreted, AND been discredited by multiple sources, I don't want to live on this planet anymore. Progress will continue, regardless of what dogmatic Republican Catholics say."
"Gay Marriage should be legal because our government is supposed to have an absence of religious views, but an acceptance of them in others, and with a majority of americans supporting Gay marriage it should be allowed, a government for the people."
"Human beings have the freedom to decide who they are. This includes their sexuality. Limiting their freedoms or discriminating towards them is a violation of the Equal Protection Clause. Though the word 'sexuality' is not specifically listed in the Clause, limiting their freedom because they are a part of a minority is, and should be considered, unconstitutional. Imagine if the tables were turned and we lived in a world where homosexuals were the majority. What if you couldn't get married because you were attracted to the opposite sex? That would suck. It sucks for gay people when you deny them marriage and simple kindness."
"I am Pro. Gay people are people too. Everyone is equil no matter what. So what if they are gay. I personaly have Gay friends 14 in fact. i am not gay but have you ever just sat down and talked to one. They have feelings too and its not right for someone to judge them because they like the same sex. Think about this this country is trying to stop bullying right, well when you say NO you can not get marryed they feel judged and bully i know this for a fact. Gay people are not bad people. They just want to be themselves so why cant they? The land of the free and the home of the brave right? They are being brave for standing up for themselves to be free,to be free to get marryed. So i am defintly PRO!! GO GAYYS YOU CAN DO IT!!!!!"
"Firstly one of the reasons that I am okay with same sex marriage is because love is love, no matter who it comes from. If you're a woman and you want to go and marry another woman there is nothing wrong with that. And if you have a problem with it then don't go to the wedding, nobody invited you anyway. And no one asked you to tell them who they could love. You don't see walking around and telling others what is wrong with they way they love someone, so you shouldn't be either. Secondly why does it always have to come back to the bible, yeah I get it and I'm not bashing anyones religion but the bible says a lot of things that we don't follow anyway or that we just choose to ignore so why does same sex marriage have to be such a big deal?"
"I'm an atheist so I'm not going to say that god made gay people but I will say that that there are specific genes that are in gay people it dosent make them gay just changes there specific emotions and feelings which is why gay boys will hang around girls and little lesbian girls will be more of a tom boy than a little princess so when they meet other gay people there naturally attracted towards them so its not god its science which I am an expert on since I am a geneticist which for you with low IQ I'm a scientist basically"