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"Of course gay marriage should be legal. It is clearly discrimination to not allow gay couples to legally get married. There are two aspects of marriage: the state, and the church. The only thing our courts can legalize is state sanctioned marriage and they should do it ASAP. A loving gay couple should be entitled to all the rights of marriage.The other aspect of marriage is the church. The state can never compel any church to marry a gay couple. Plain and simple. The argument that legalizing gay marriage will destroy traditional religious marriages is a red herring. It can never happen. Yet this argument is used to scare the general public into not supporting gay marriage. Do not fall for it!"
"@Andrew Lipmanit is ignorant and ugly people like you that have caused me to lose all faith in humanity. If anyone has a disorder it is you. Homosexuality is not a disorder. If it is than so is heterosexuality which means you shouldn't be allowed to marry and reproduce (though honestly you shouldn't reproduce. there is no need for more little monsters like you in this world). People are born with their sexuality whether it is heterosexual, homosexual, pansexual, bisexual, etc. Also, HOW DARE YOU SAY SOMEONE WITH A MENTAL DISORDER IS INFERIOR TO THE REST OF THE WORLD?! My cousin has downs and she is a better person than you can ever hope to be. She deserves to be happy just as much as you do. the same can be said about people who are homosexual, bisexual, pansexual, asexual, etc. They are human beings who deserve to live happy lives. You are an ignorant, hateful, horrible human being and I look forward to your response~ :3"
"Just remember that not all churches shun gay people or same sex marriage. Some churches welcome them into the churches arms (and no not to turn them straight). I think there are only two arguements to not having gay marriage....1) They can not reproduce. Well there are couples that are men and women who can't have kids but what do people tell them...that they can't be married. NO! They say adopt or get someone else to have the kid because there are so many options for you. Well guess what. Same sex couples have those options. 2) Againest the bible... Well you know what. Some churches welcome same sex couples. People need to realize some same sex couples are together longer than some straight couples and that thier weddings would boost the economy. The average wedding is alittle under 30,000 dollars."
"@ sc2012,Re: the "incest" scare ...The legal purpose of marriage is to establish legal kinship where none previously existed. The incestuous are already kin in the eyes of the law, and thus have no need of marriage.Do better."
"Another on at andrew. you have no right to say gay people have a disorder. how would you feel if your best friend told you he was gay and you said he had a disorder? how would you feel? you need to actually think about these things before you post them. get over your disorder and give equal rights!!!"
"i think gay marriage should be legal. The reason being is because equal rights if i wanted to be married to a girl then thats what i want. i shouldnt be judged. Choice because i should get to pick who i want to be with and who i love. I feel most straight relationships end more then gays"
"Why is the word marriage so important? If the relationship is right and legally accepted by contract why hijack a word which historically means another relationship. Blurring the edges is pointless and corrupt."
"@Andrew.What's the disorder called?I think you have a disorder, too."I'm afraid of homosexuality, so I'll do everything in my power to ban the unions of them.""
"@Andrew LiptonThanks for offending me greatly. LGBT's can think perfectly normal."
"@Bob the Builder It is not unnatural, unnatural would mean that it didn't happen commonly in animals outside of humans, which it does http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual_behavior_in_animals ."
"Yeah I like 1D and yes they r gay but u don't see them dating each other, But the people who said yes they think that gay married is legal that's not what u was put on this earth to do!???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? not to marry someone who was the same sex man should marry a women and a women should marry a man.!"
"very true. Religion will always be intact, no matter what happens in society"
"You can simply replace the word "gay" with "incest" to support incest marriage. Try it, it works on other pro gay marriage comments too."Of course incest marriage should be legal. It is clearly discrimination to not allow incest couples to legally get married.There are two aspects of marriage: the state, and the church.The only thing our courts can legalize is state sanctioned marriage and they should do it ASAP. A loving incest couple should be entitled to all the rights of marriage.The other aspect of marriage is the church. The state can never compel any church to marry an incest couple. Plain and simple. The argument that legalizing incest marriage will destroy traditional religious marriages is a red herring. It can never happen. Yet this argument is used to scare the general public into not supporting incest marriage.Do not fall for it!"Will you support incest marriage?"
"The only thing that "Gay" marriages can produce is their own agenda. Beyond that, they produce nothing, in fact time will cause their kind to be a direct drain on the social order and tax base. Their kind does not add to society, they do not add tax-payers, they can not offer any state nor our federal-republic sustainable defensive options (troops in the field), they can not plan for a better financial future of paying down (sharing) the burdon of our national debt, nor can they offer any "tangible model of sustainability to any way of life". Why? Because quiet simply the lifestyle is "self-destructive" and by its own choice, ceases its own existence. But you're right in one respect, "I won't fall for it" - at all.Anyone who refuses to help me pay down down our national debt, or support the existence of our state or federal government is, in fact, treasonous and sedicious and should be delt with accordingly."
"Marriage is a publically acknowledged relationship between a man and a woman for procreation and the basis of tribe is the interrelationship of its peoples bloodline. Children have a mother and a father and hopefully some stability in their lives. To use this term, this name for something different debases society and damages it function. Same sex relationships are not the problem, it is using the term Marriage to describe it that is wrong. It is debasing the language of the many to satisfy the ego's of the few in the name of political correctness and pressure."
"Is it then discrimination to not let a man marry a child or animal? Do not change the rules of life. Homosexuality is a mental disorder that can easily be healed. Most people are gay sometimes in there life but they grow up! RRG2012"
"What naivety.Marriage is between man and women. to do with procreation and survival of the species, nothing to do with the sexual gratification of hormonally imbalanced individuals.It won't be too long before we are legalising paedophilia based on current actions."
"I think it's discrimination that I don't get to receive the same benefits as a handicapped person, just because I don't have a disability. I think being handicapped should include everyone and not just the disabled. Just because being handicapped is defined a certain way and warrants certain benefits, doesn't mean I shouldn't be able to change how it's defined so that I too can reap its benefits. After all, I wasn't born disabled and it's not like I can make a choice to be disabled, just so I can participate in the benefits of being handicapped. Talk about a red herring. What about the fact that "Marriage", as defined between man and woman, has no pre-requisite based on sexual orientation... meaning, you can be GAY and still practice MARRIAGE, as it is defined. I am straight and I also cannot marry someone of the same sex. There is not some right that I have that gay people don't. And don't start with talks about "love" because "love" is also not a pre-requisite for marriage. Push for a separate union for same sex couples (that both GAY and STRAIGHT people can participate in) and then we might believe that your true aim is gain the same benefits for same sex couples as marriage does for straight couples."
"Actually "gay marriage" is legal in all fifty states. Conjugal, as in husband and wife, marriage, gay or non gay, is legal. To say that gay people cannot marry is untrue. The argument is how we as a society define marriage. Is it husband and wife, or spouses for life?"
"Legalizing gay marriage in favor of being politically correct is a red herring."
"honey it already has not only has gay mariage began to cause issues within religious beliefs but people are starting to say it is alright to teach it children. you are not being discriminated against because now a days everyone is saying they are gay or lesbian or bi its a trend not an rguement used to scare the general public and if this is a disorder everyone must have it well most."
"James, legalizing same sex marriage is not a State or Federal Government responsibility. Marriage is a Church decision even at a Court House. It is and has been developed by standards of religous beliefs. It is not related to the fifth amendment in any way, even though the current President of the United States thinks so, He should read the fifth amendment.As far as entitled rights, and I do support the issue, Rules, laws of society that are for the Union of a Man and Women for the purpose of procreation do not apply to same sex marriage.It does not matter, allowing benefits out of misuse of written law means new laws must be written and that is a complete waste of our tax paying dollars and Political time better spent on all the People and not a select group.Mary if you can, just like anyone in the free World but don't forget or negate every Human comes from Heterosexual activity."
"It is not discrimination, it is not a race nor a culture of some sort.. if you are gay, keep it personal.. tell people, go ahead nothing wrong with that. but. it is still un natural.."
"They acutually do have a disorder it is called an identity crisis with hours of pyschological analysis they can be cured"
"Is it clearly discrimination to allow siblings to marry? Is it discrimination to allow plural marriage too? You may disagree with the convictions of another; but, be careful not to throw around ad hominem that deteriorates the quality of the discourse.Your thoughts rest on the assumption that it is the right of people to marry whom (or what) they please. This is not shared by those who disagree with you. They believe that this right applies only to opposite-sex marriages and that proponents of gay marriage fail to define the nature of the right to marry as tradition has in the huge majority of cultures across time and geography. It is not most essentially about who can marry, but what marriage is. The traditional family is the foundation of both civilization and progress. The sanctity of and emphasis on that most important union and covenant is therefore threatened by attempts to extirpate the very definition. To say it is "clearly discrimination" is also a fallacy called "the straw man.""
"FYI gay=homosexual & marriage=heterosexual union so 'gay marriage' literally means HOMOSEXUAL HETEROSEXUAL UNION = physically impossible OXYMORON!And for those who haven't heard, there was this guy named BILL CLINTON who signed the DEFENSE OF MARRIAGE ACT which legally defines the word 'MARRIAGE' as a union between one man and one woman aka a HETEROSEXUAL UNION! So Bill Clinton defined marriage at the FEDERAL level as a HETEROSEXUAL UNION. So the historical definition of the word "marriage=HETEROSEXUAL UNION & the de facto legal definition according to BILL CLINTON=HETEROSEXUAL UNION! This is the part the LAMESTREAM MEDIA always conveniently forgets to mention.....END OF ARGUMENT...CASE CLOSED MARRIAGE IS A HETEROSEXUAL WORD just like LESBIAN is a homosexual word! Now if the pro gay marriage people would be honest and polite and say..."Would you please let us REDEFINE THE HETEROSEXUAL WORD MARRIAGE so we can have the same rights as heterosexuals???" Then we might have an honest debate. Instead they claim it is a 'civil right' which is where I must remind everyone that redefining words is NOT anyone's 'civil right'! So long suckers~"
"Actually chruches can be required to marry gay couples as well as normal couples if the law is passes because of nondiscrimination laws. Christian clubs in some states (like California) cannot receive school funding because they are anti-gay which is completely unfair to christians, they can have an opinion.Technically it is not discrimination to not allow gays to marry... they have a choice to be gay. It is not the "next civil rights movement" either. Civil rights movements are for people like blacks, or females, because neither have a choice about the way they are. But gays have a choice so it is in no way injust to not extend marriage rights to them.Also marriage is the union of two people for the purpose of bearing children. Gays cannot accomplish this. yes there is adoption, but is having two parents of the same sex a healthy environment for children to grow up with? mothers and fathers have their roles separately because with out one or the other there are holes that cannot be filled."
"Marriage is between a man and a woman. That is what marriage IS. You can't change the definition of a word because you want the world to conform to your sick ways."
"Gays have a genetic/biological disorder.Would you allow someone in a mental hospital with a mental disorder to be married, no because biology left them inferior to the rest of the world, therefore not deserving of civil rights such as marriage."
"LOVE IS LOVE. Period."
"I love many people, but that doesn't mean I have the right to get married to them."
"Zoophilia: okay because love is love. PERIODIncest: okay because love is love. PERIODpedophilia: okay because love is love. PERIODrape: who says the rapist doesn't love the raped? LOLOL love is love. periodyour argument has more holes than 50 cent after he fell victim to a drive-by"
"I that were the case, then priests should be free to openly LOVE young boys"
"so if he beats on you brings you down and harms you but he says i love you and that persons partner says okay i love you too lets get married is it ok? LOVE IS LOVE RIGHT"
"Just because you love something doesn't mean it should be legal. Marriage is for churches not governments."
"How would you define love? To me, love is wanting the best for someone, but even if they don't make the right choices, you don't give up on them. In my opinion, legalizing gay marriage would be harmful to the spiritual health of some members of the gay community, so I am against its legalization. I will always love the individuals in the gay community, but I will remain steadfast against gay marriage."
"i love my dog i can marry himlove is love lol"
"I love my dog but trust me Love is not Love."
"Drugs are drugs can be used as the same argument. i understand everyone has the right to be happy but doesn't mean that practicing of these things it right. for it is not right to change a whole law just for the stratification of the few"
"Love is a verb, not a noun. When you love someone, you serve them, you stick with them. You stick it out through every storm that comes your way! Love is not some warm fuzzy feeling, it is an action!!"
"Anon; Just because you love someone, it doesn't exactly mean the love that makes you want to marry someone. Family love and friendly love is so very different from romantic love. People SHOULD have the right to get married to whomever they ROMANTICALLY love.Because Savanna is right; love is love.No exceptions."
"i absolute agree. it doesnt matter what form or color your skin is to other people. but what sex you are in love with and your a shame? its beyond morally wrong. i can love who i love and how i love them. Go Gay Pride!!!!"
"Exactly, I really find it hard to understand how other people can't understand that."
"homos have a habit of not differentiating love from lust."
"What does love have to do w/ marriage? Is that a pre-requisite for marriage? What is "love" besides someone's own interpretation of a set of feelings and emotions? Don't bring love into the debate, unless you want to start having government define love and determining the validity of all marriages (based on whether they consist of a truly loving relationship vs. something else)"
"So if i "loved" my eight year old daughter, I would have the right to get married to her. I mean I love her. "Love is love. Period.""
"as well as love between men and chicken"
"Perfect, you said it <3"
"AN ANUS IS AN ANUS. Period. Most folk know what its designed for and it aint for the gratification of the hormonally challenged . I love my dog dearly but ' heh '"
"Tomoko; She means two-sided love. Not one-sided, stalkerish love."
"I agree completely! Love is Love, so don't hide you're pride!"
"I completely agree with you it's Love they will get over it. And it's stupid that the nation can't accept that every one is different and not the way they want. My daughters high school has a Gay Straight Alliance and she is currently their president and I have her back with it because her mom (me) is part of the LGBT community."
"i feel you on that one"
"WOW,TELL THAT TO MY PARANTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
"God.We're talking about intimate love, guys--true love, if you will--between two beings, may they be both female, both male, or a female and a male. There, now I've cleared up all the confusion."
"amen. you are extremely right"
"Why is it that, as a culture, we are more comfortable seeing two men holding guns than holding hands?"
"Thank you James, I was very moved by your words for they are all very true."
"@Charles.I don't want to see you swallowing your girlfriend's face either, but I don't complain."
"@Charlesplease tell me Charles why two men kissing is so disgusting? And I noticed how you specifically said "two men". Does that mean it is okay for two women to kiss in public and have it not be 'disgusting'? If so then tell me why."
"well maybe thay think its gross to see you are your girlfriend kissing in public? so does that mean that if you two like eachother you cant be happy?"
"thats a really good point james!"
"God made man to kill animals. God made man to hold a gun and use it for protection. God dint make people gay"
"Do guns kiss, do they defile a culture that has been in place since man has been on this earth. guns and war and marriage have always been a staple of the American culture so don't try and relater the 2 because they are not the same"
"You have a wonderful point. I fully support it. :)"
"The right to bear arms."
"Because people are ignorant. Because people want things their way. Because society doesn't want people to be different."
"wow this is so true !"
"THANK YOU!!!! this just made my day! I cant even begin to exsplain how true this is and how messed up society is. i am very thankful that you said that because it just shows how gay marriage does not hurt anyone so why is it not legal???"
"Because two men holding hands to be married clearly is against the Bible. And depending on their situation, holding guns is not!"
"so your calling everyone who is gay or is for gay people are not right minded?"
"Cause those men holding guns are probably trained to use them and are in an armed branch of military. There is power in a firearm James, it has built and destroyed nations for centuries while this movenment has just appeared a few decades ago. Were just used to seeing guns more thats all."
"two men holding guns are only trying to kill each other not the entire society"
"I think you just proved to yourself why homosexuality is wrong. It isn't natural. THAT is why no one wants to see it."
"I don't think anyone with a sound mind likes to see two men kissing or holding hands in public. That would be disgusting to anyone with a right mind."
"Who is it hurting? That's my only question."
"im with u. gay marrage is hurting nobody and denying them is hurting someone its hurting them!!! it should be illegal for the laws against gay marrages to still be in act."
"okay, to the person who said it hurts people by spreading AIDS, you are incompetent. AIDS IS SPREAD BY ANYONE WHO HAS IT, STRAIGHT OR GAY. you cannot blame the gay community for aids. that's narrowminded, homophobic, and just plain stupid."
"someone said it is hurting God, yes? well, God controls all? He makes everything happen? He makes people and shapes the world? then it was His decision to have gays on this planet. im not religious so i may be wrong, but the person you worship clearly made this happen if thats what you believe. how can it hurt them?"
"To the person that said why should they have to pay taxes for something they dont beleive in???????? Question when in the world did my taxes start paying for peoples weddings wow! And ok you pay taxes for alot of thing that you probaly dont even kno the half of them. SMH cut it out!"
"I agree. Allowing two people of the same sex to be married does not harm anyone, and therefore it should be allowed. It does not serve any purpose not to allow it."
"yeah! who is hurting!? thats just it! no one is hurting!!!"
"To Tyler Staheli, maybe their spirituality is being hurt by your standards but there are religions that accept gays with open arms. To everyone who said God, really? If 'God' didn't want gays, then why would he have created them? He made every person who they are, how they are. EVERYTHING happens for a reason, according to Christianity, it's all "God's plan", right? I personally follow a less-restrictive, more caring, less bigoted and less judgmental religion than Christianity, so maybe I am wrong. But I doubt it because I have learned about Christianity. It's not hurting you in any way and, if it is 'wrong', well then, more space in 'heaven' for all you and the 'right' people.Second, it is wrong to try and say what is wrong and what is right because it's all gray area. Do not tell me 'well, the bible says...' because the bible was written by power/money hungry men who were afraid. Yes, afraid. Of people who are different.Third, what happened to separation of church and state? Claiming 'religious reasons' for not allowing gay marriage is so wrong it's not even funny. Why should you force others to live by the rules of YOUR religion?Also, you do not pay taxes on marriage, of straights or gays."
"If both parties consent then who or what is incestual and pedophilic relationships hurting??? In other news, I doubt that that sentence was grammatically incorrect."
"I don't think it is hurting anyone. Some people are just scared of change."
"look im not doing this to argue im just on this site cuz of a school project but i just wanna say that God loves all of you, gay or not, and homosexuality is a spirit comsuming your life and sin is wat seperates u from the Almighty but through the power of Christ that sin can be broken and u can be freed from it just seek God with all your hearts and see wat miraculous things he can do for and in you"
"Can anyone tell me why we never see same marriage and sex among millions of other living animals birds and the rest?"
"It's hurting each of the men or each of the women involved in the relationship spiritually."
"Everything has a consequence, good or bad, better or worse. When one door closes,another one opens. Everyone and anything involved in a decision is affected. One could say "Who is hurting? Fundamentalism my awnser." Everyone is hurting."
"Meghan that itself sounds incompetent for two reasons: 1.) Though Gays didn't create AIDS they were the first in America to appear with AIDS or more known at the time as GRIDS or Gay-related immune deficiency. The name was changed to AIDS so that people like you didn't have to feel offended by it and because it started to appear in non-homosexual men.2.)Just because someone states something you don't like doesn't mean that you should name call someone because that itself is narrow-minded and stupid.If what you believe is right then you shouldn't have to retort to such immature, petty actions to prove and justify it."
"wow your smart Meghan."
"Why should I have to pay taxes for something I don't agree with? It hurts me."
"EVERYONE. If being gay was a good or correct thing to do, then all people should do it, but if all mankind was gay, all mankind would cease to exist!"
"How about the children being born into unmarried families? Or the kids being born with aids? They are hurting."
"miss miki,God made Gays to do something other then to be married. He has something else planned for them other then Marriage if they really wanted to become married they could easily become straight just as the can easily decide to be gay ( yes i am bringing in the born gay topic) so if you are a follower of God (which I don't think you are) you would know that so before you click that red tumbs down button chew on that for a while and don't click it just because you are Gay and dont think you can easily become straight."
"The people doing it... (spreads AIDS and other diseases)."
"who is it hurting.? ... its hurting society) ha! what next crazy thing are they going to start doing?.. having sex with animals and thinking is fine an dandy!"
"Hurting? thats your question? Simple Answer. Its hurting me. Not in a selfish, "i dont like gay people" way. In the last part of the Gospel Matthew, my Savior and Redeemer, who sacrificed all to save me, ascends to heaven giving a simple commandment. Its called the Great Commision, and it tells me to go out and make disciples of all nations baptizing them in the name of The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit. Its not a suggestion, nor a guidline, but it is a commandment. A life goal, and something I always live by. So if gay marriage was legalized it would encourage more people to become gay, further separating the God who warned this would happen from our daily lives. Thereby if i want to share my testimony and talk about my walk with Christ to someone in hopes that it would lead them to become a believer also, and they were gay, would it or would it not be harder to share my beliefs with someone when my beliefs are shown as wrong in the state? Yes. it would be a lot harder trying to help someone when my beliefs denounce something that they think they are. So yes, it hurts me. It denys me of an entire life goal and the feeling i get when God uses me to help someone else. It hurts me . Just as it would hurt a gay person."
"Its Hurting God o:"
"There is no valid reason to deny homosexual's the right to marry. Personal opinion is not a valid reason. The Bible is not a valid reason.Whether you believe the Bible, or any other religous tome, our Constitution says that you cannot make your religious views into law. It also gives equal rights.As the Supreme Court ruled so many decades ago - Separate but equal is NOT equal."
"@ no name. Actually marriage is, in part, a contractual obligation and we don't allow goats or children to enter into contracts. Also, the reason we have an age of legal adulthood is that prior to that you lack the wisdom to be making potentially life altering decisions. Finally, adults marring children has an increased likelihood of coercion and subjugation then if both parties are adults. So for these reasons I feel your arguments are invalid."
"@ no name,Re: "would you agree with a pedifile wanting to marry a child, or a man wanting to wedd a goat?"Neither children nor animals can give legal consent to enter into a contract.That you wish to havbe people see gays as the equivalent of child-molesters and beastialists is very revealing, and not in a good way."
"The overturning of the doctrine of separate but equal came with the Brown v. Board of Education of Topeka decision, and it was originally declared constitutional by the Plessy v. Ferguson decision. The Brown v. Board of Education only declared that the separate but equal doctrine did not apply to racially segregated public ecucation--it was still the constitutional right (according to the Supreme Court) of private schools to be racially segregated. The doctrine of separate but equal, furthermore, only applied to racial segregation and was never officially overturned; it was only discarded because of public pressure (the Civil Rights Movement). For these reasons, I don't believe that the doctrine of separate but equal can be discarded in the gay marriage debate--at least until the Supreme Court says otherwise, since it was the Supreme Court that began the doctrine.On a side note, the Constitution actually does allow religious views to be made into law. It just does not allow the establishment of a particular religion or religious denomination/sect as the state religion."
"The Bible is a guide to righteous and honourable life."
"like really i just asked my teacher if she agrees with gay marriage (because we are doing a SA for her class and that is my topic) and she says that is not my bussiness"
"How is the Bible not a valid reason?? It is 100% ACCURATE, and written by the Creator of the Universe. By arguing that the Bible is not a source of authority, you are arguing against the very Being that gives you the ability to read this comment, and gives you the breath while doing so!!"
"Your thoughts on the courts ruleings are true,but would you agree with a pedifile wanting to marry a child, or a man wanting to wedd a goat? if your argeument is real then you must accept that as well"
"one of the main reasons that gay marriage isn't legal is because of religious views, however government and religion are meant to be SEPARATE!!"
"@LathanThe Founders actually did support a single religion: Christianity. They just supported different forms of it, with some (the Deists) adapting it to fit their worldview. Not one of the Founders was a member of any other religion; they were all either Deist or Christian. The whole idea behind separating church and state was so that one formal organization would not take over the other, like the Anglican Church did in England because the king was the head of the Anglican Church--the Founders assumed that America would always be Christian, since at the time all other religions were considered inferior because they were pagan. It's doubtful that the Founders ever foresaw that the religious freedoms that they provided through the Constitution and Bill of Rights would result in the religious diversity we have in America today, with mosques, churches, temples, and shrines all on the same block! So all that to say, you're right in saying that the Founders enforced the idea of religious freedom. However, their conception of religious freedom was freedom to practice Christianity, and they believed that a Christian/Christianized worldview was the best foundation for American society and morality. They founded us on Christianity."
"@CameraYou are very incorrect with your statement, "Our country was founded on Christianity." In fact, the United States was found for equal representation within a society. The founding fathers enforced the idea of religious freedom and not supporting a single religion. "Ti' better to have a lighthouse than a church," quipped Benjamin Franklin."
"Amen to that! no pun intended"
"Although I am CON for gay marriage...the only reason that gay marriage could be a possibility for state is for purposes of heritage once the partners are deceased. But I do not believe that this is the intention of the gay community, the intention is to be accepted in their way of life."
"That is very true but science can disprove religion so i have to say the idea of religion is cultish."
"whta happens if we do seperate gov and religon you tell me"
"Bull. Our country was founded on Christianity. The liberty bell has a Bible inscription. They say "May God save this holy court" in the Supreme Court. Don't push my religion out for your sick ways."
"No any way u put it it is still NASTY N WRONG"
"The "traditional marriage" that is held in such high esteem is a relatively recent construct, perhaps 100 years old. Prior to that, marriages were planned by two families for financial, political and other reasons. Little input was allowed from the groom-to-be and no input from the bride-to-be. This type of marriage is still practiced in several parts of the world. Women were/are seen as chattel, something to be used in bargaining not unlike a prized cow or a fecund mare. Is this what those against same-sex marriage really want to bring back?As to the "need" for both a male and a female, a father and a mother, to breed and rear children: where do the hundreds of thousands of single-parent families fit?As with straight parents, same-sex parents are equally concerned for and participate in the lives of their children. Multiple studies have shown that children raised by same-sex parents do as well as those from a "straight" home; sometimes they do even better.I have a goodly number of friends in committed relationships (two going back over 40 years) who have children; these kids are brought up in a warm, supportive, loving home. Each of these kids (aged 6 months to 42 years) is a wonderful person; the older guys and girls are happy, productive, loving members of society in school and at work. And, to those who might be so concerned: of the 34 kids that I know (in same-sex homes), 4 are Gay and 2 are lesbians. That seems to fit within the accepted percentages.The argument that Gays are mentally disordered is too specious for words. In the developed world, there is neither a legitimate Medical nor Psychiatric association that would agree with that claim.The statement from T. Hansen about "[t]he accumulated wisdom of 5000 years" is germane to nothing. The social, legal and/or religious definitions of and practices of marriage have varied widely over time. Each society, each generation has defined the concept of "marriage" to fit its own needs.The "slippery slope" arguments is one of the oldest chestnuts to cause confusion and install fear and doubt. The cited outcomes of same-sex marriage border on preposterous and inflammatory. No reasonable person could possibly follow the inane blathering.Finally, going back to the earliest extant Hebrew Torah, I am absolutely unable to find any text in which God says to Adam and Eve, "Okay, first you guys get married and then you be fruitful and multiply. Okay?""
"okay, dude, you are godly at this debateing thing and i agree with everything you said 5000% GO same sex right!!!"
""The argument that Gays are mentally disordered is too specious for words. In the developed world, there is neither a legitimate Medical nor Psychiatric association that would agree with that claim."How many abused children turn straight? None. If you look at some of your statistics you like so much, give me a number of people that developed homosexual behavior after being molested"
"totally. i agree 100%"
"Actually, there isn't enough conclusive evidence (long-term research) to determine the effectiveness of child-rearing between homo and hetero couples. The IDEAL is a having the biological Mother and Father raise the child. With gay couples, children will never have that male/female dynamic. 5000 years of accumulated knowledge is nothing to scoff at. It has been understood by those generations what body parts go together and how babies and familes are made. The anus was not designed for sex. Homosexual behavior is not healthy physically or emotionally. Since no gay gene was found, now there is talk about epigenetics, and when that's disproven, there will be some other excuse. Actually, many slippery slope arguments are valid and if you're going to meniton the Bible read all of it, including the portions that mention that homosexuality is: unnatural, shameful and an abomination."
"The size of the dowery also had a large influence on the concept of forcec marriage."
"".... same-sex parents are equally concerned for and participate in the lives of their children". Does that include, insuring,if at all possible, "thier" children, have equal access, and involvement with both thier biological parents? I'm not arguing that same sex parents cannot be good parents. But in order to be parents in the first place, they must either adopt, or involve the opposite sex, on some level. Also how is a same sex couple superior, in terms of child raising, to that of other same sex parental structures, such as two sisters, or two brothers raising one or both siblings children? Or a father, and his father (Grandfather) raising the father's children?"
"there is no such thing as a tradutional marriage anymore so another thing adam and eve were already married smart one"
"You're ruining your kids lives. It's sick. All the gays can thumb me down for all I care. Straight people make up the majority of America and we need to speak out."
"beacuse you should be able to love and be able to marry whoever you want if its the same sex or not"
"didnt the Lord teach us to treat all equally and to respect others thoughts and ideas? The Lords not gonna turn you away at the golden gates just because your gay"
"gay marriage should have nothing to do with God. for crying out loud put yourself in our shoes. if you wanted to get married to the girl or boy of your dreams(depending on your sex) then you should be able to and not have bible beaters shoving a freaking verse after verse about gays and lesbians being devil riden diseases. So i say if i have the most right in your eyes to go to hell then im dragging you down with me so shut up and deal cause you aint getting rid of the gay pride!!!!"
"What if its not the same species ?"
"So i should be able to marry my grandmother?"
"If you trust and love the Lord you will know its not godlly dear."
"In answer to"It is wrong to create fatherless or motherless families by design. Same-sex marriages have more to do with the desires of adults than the needs of children. Human experience and a vast body of social science research show that children do best in married, mother-father households.."Bologna!!There is no solid evidence saying that gay couples put children in an unstable environment children need love and acceptance it doesn't matter what your sexual orientation is if you are capable of being responsible and compassionate- there are many "good" married Christian parents who abuse and shame their children- Children need positive role models not intolerance and a morality that picks and chooses what's right and wrong, and translates the bible to suit their own agenda.As for Ann Landers comment that gay marriage 'flies in the face of cultural and traditional family life as we have known it for centuries. And that's where I must draw the line. Sorry."- Obviously the first few thousand years of existence when people lived without marriage and in poly-amorous extended families, with different spiritual beliefs is not a part of history she cares to learn about Christianity was not the first religion and God is way too big to fit into such a limited un-inclusive belief system"
"Anon, where do you get your information that more gays molest kids? That is absurd! MAYBE a few gay men who are too ashamed to accept their gay identity (because of societal shame) molest kids. I could say (without a bit of evidence, as you have) that more children are molested by Catholic Priests than openly gay men. Get your facts straight before you go making unsubstantiated statements like that!!"
"Hello Helena, I do support the issue but there actually is evidence in 10 Countries around the World including .. Sweden, Norway, Germany, The United States of America etc. ( You can research from this site) that shows Children raised in a same sex relationship do not get a balanced upbringing and over 60 % of same sex households due not stay together for more then 3 years after adoption as opposed to 15 years for Heterosexual households who adopt. The sanctimony of marriage is in fact a religious or community ceremony that has been recognized for much longer then a few thousand years. Human existence is only attained by the procreation of a Man and a Woman. You were created by a Man and a Woman. There is no other way. Losing direction in this argument is the true issue. There are no civil rights being violated except those created by misuse of the Freedoms of the United States of America which is one of a kind.Marriage is a choice and, quite frankly, a piece of paper in the society we live in. Marriage to attain an equal benefit designed for procreation should never be responsibly initiated by Government at the State or Federal level. It is not a Constitutional argument no mater how you read the Constitution.."
"hetro-sexual parents make mistakes by accident, homo-sexual parents do it on pourpose."
"There are also many gay parents that abuse and ruin their children, but more so un-intentionally. It puts wrong thought in a childs head and they have no choice in the matter. Did you know more gays molest kids than straight people? Yeah, go tell that to your gay friends."
"So you are saying we should follow the older religions?"
"You never hear about gay/lesbian couples going around, trying to ban straight marriage. Some people need to open their eyes and realize we're not living in the stone age. Gays/lesbians are humans, too."
"That's because in a vote or debate gay/lesbian couples would lose. I feel we've lost our minds here in America. We pride ourselves on democracy but some of the stuff we consider is ridiculous. We are just straying farther and farther from tradition and the foundation that was set for us. When God goes back on His word and says "Jesus died for homosexuals to live as homosexuals" or when two men can have sex and one gets pregnant then i'll vote to legalize gay marriage. Human or not some of the stuff we invent is ridiculous. Think about it. "Oh I think i'll be an individual and stick my penis in HIS butt instead of her vagina (which is the norm)" If we legalize gay marriage because people decided they are gay what stops other people from trying to win a vote for something they feel is their right? Say someone wants to "liberate" his or herself and walk around naked. We voting to legalize that too? They're human....smh"
"You don't hear them going around like that because straight marriage has been practice for a long time."
"You don't see gays and lesbians rallying for straight people not to have the right to get married. What gives us the right to do that to them? Sick people, grow up, this is the 21st century."
"ani ? is it ? yeah im not trying to call you out but .. you're the one that should be growing up . we dont say anything about straight people and how they should be in a relationship its NONE of your business who we marry."
"The only sick people in this country are those who favour same sex marriages dear. It's called freedom of speech and voicing our opinions. if you disagree with the ideas of america then fine take yourself someplace else, yes its the 21st century but our country is not about to allow filthy ignorant beings with no way of giving back to society (in a healthy way) the right to marry. If gays did ever build the courage to do something that foolish do you think they would have the right to be considered civil unions? or even marry in some states legally? Nope :}"
"marriage has always been between a man and woman and the 21st century is going down hill and another thing if it was wrong way back then and people say it is wrong now then guess what IT IS WRONG GET OVER IT sincerely the sick people"
"Gay Marriage should be legal because if you love someone you should be allowed to marry them. Its about if you love the person not if people say you're wrong"
"so what you are saying is if you love your cousin you should be allowed to marry them or if you love your sibling you can marry them"
"I was wondering what kind of love you are talking about: Eros (or love of the belly), Philia (love of the heart), or Agape (love of the mind)?"
"if i love my cat, i should marry him too. yup makes complete sense... God didnt design people to marry animals, the parts dont fit. neither did He design girls to marry girls, and guys to marry guys."
"What does marriage got to do with love? What does having sex have to do with love? I love my brother should I be allowed to marry him?"
"I believe gay marriage should be legalized because everybody deserves to be happy. Alot of people are seeing it on the perspective of religion not from the perspective of letting two people be happy. They are going to be together either way so might as well let them get married. Maybe not in a religious way but at least by being accepted by the people and not feared because its different."
"You don't need marriage to be happy..."
"Giving someone what they think they want is no guarantee of happiness"
"Perfect, you said it all <3"
"Being happy is a mental state it will not affect everyone in the world. plus, if you have more and more gays where does the population go if it is legalized??"
"Love is blind, it sees no gender."
"you are absolutly right!"
"You are right but love and marriage are not the same thing."
"But what if I love my dog is it ok if I marry my dog??? or I'm in love with 3 people is it ok if I marry all of them??? wow..... love must be really blind"
"What about age? Species? Number of partners? Biological relations?"
"Legalizing gay marriage has nothing to do with the church, or it shouldn't.One part of marriage is getting benefits from the other. Many married couples never have children but still get the benefits of marriage, should we take those benefits away because they don't have children?Another is the promise to be with each other for an "eternity" etc. Marriage is also about being able to celebrate having each other.And last, marriage is about being there for each other. Granting marriage to same-sex couples lets them see eachother in hospitals, make medical desicions for their partner when they are unable to and ensure both of the participants safety.Everyone deserves the right to recive these things in a relationship. And besides, not every wedding is in a church, plenty of atheists get married, should we ban marriage from them too for not being christian, muslim or jewish (or any other religion)?Contemplate that then look around you, look at your boyfriend/girlfriend and your relatives, some of them might be homosexual. And do they deserve to have the right to happiness as the Constitution states?I think they do."
"good points but you forgot one thing, marriage was build on the idea of "god" and sacred rituals not of an unclean union between man and man or female and female. I'm just stating the obvious. is it wrong? i'm not god so i cannot make that decision but I do know that anything that goes against him is wrong and will not end in peace. also, the constitution is old, it was written back when we were getting our freedom from England which means that the laws and regulations on them were from those times. I agree that gays should have some form of unionized relationship that would allow them to receive benefits but if that gets passed do you think they will stop at that? Also do you think marriages would be a thing of the past considering if it's made legal that you can get same benefits from a marriage without being married ? Just a thought. and personally I dont care if gays marry or not, i just want people to stop using my tax dollars for stupid debates and researches to see if "gay is a birth right" or some silly crap. if you're gay you're gay take it up with god not the appeals court!! :[ and if you have a life insurance policy and the person you're committed to leaves everything to you in a will then why bother with marriage"
"On all comments listed, no factual evidence was presented against gay marrage - only opinions. For something as important as marrage, the two people involved should have final say and peoples opinions should take a back seat."
"thank you!!! finally someone who agrees with me. the homosexualos should get the pick of wether they wed or dont."
"wanna know a fact... Its illegal :)"
"Dude...all the comments on the pro side are opinions too...this site was created to show people that there are two sides to every issue. All the comments on this site are opinions. I really don't see what you and all the people who voted up on this comment are getting at here."
"Two people involved should have a final say? That means if I find another person who wants to hang you from a tree, other "people's opinions should take a back seat""
"where are your facts?"
"Gay people have the same rights as anyone.All that stuff about god creating Adam and Eve doesn't matter because if a man and a man love each other who are we to say that they can't marry because god doesn't want them to."
"because god doesnt want them too your statement backfired"
"Considering all of the people that are anti-gay marriage due to religious reasons say that the bible states that it is wrong, then why would God CREATE people that are gay. A person does NOT become gay, they are usually born that way. If you think that God created all men and women then he created the gays too, and they deserve love just as much as any heterosexual couple does. Also for the people who state that it will open doors for other sick minded unions, marriage did not start out as something sacred, most wives were actually concubines, and also most people were forced into a marriage for purposes of money. So there is no way for us to tell someone that they cannot be married, if you do not like it then do not marry another man or woman, it is as simple as that."
"God created people but it is the person who decides if they want to become homosexual or heterosexual. People are not born gay, they become gay because of social, evirnomental, to physiological reasons. If there is something that makes a person born gay then we would have seen it a lot and earlier, also the second thing would be how would we know that it was the cause or result of the person being gay?Oh one last thing the whole 'marriage for purpose of money' is true but if the same sex marriage is legalized couples in these marraiges will recieve benefits that include money too. Just pointing that out."
"He doesn't create them with a natural instinct to be gay. Gay people are born with the same nature as straight human beings. Gays just choose on their own to pervert their sexuality and engage in unnatural relationships. You claim that gay people are born the way they are; they are not. If it were possible, why are there not ever any monkeys, bears, or any type of animals that are born gay? You don't ever see that happen because it's unnatural. The same is true for humans whether you look at it from a scientific perspective, a religious perspective, or both. Gay does not work in any context."
"God DID NOT create gay people! In Leviticus 20:13 it states: " If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination;they shall surely be put to death;their blood is upon them." If you actually READ the Bible you would know this. I am so disgusted with people saying that God created gays. If that is so why this statement in the Bible? Why the destruction of cities like Sodom and Gomorrah for such sin? SIN is why people are corrupt. SIN is NOT of God. Therefore homosexuality is NOT of God. It is an abomination. Get it right if you want to preach it. otherwise, keep your so called "views" on God to yourself. And the choice to sleep with someone of the same sex is just that. A CHOICE. Not a dysfunction, not a gene development in the womb, it is a choice that a person makes."
"you do realize, that not everyone is a christian or a catholic, right? I'm a gay wiccan man, and I did not choose to be gay, Not once have i ever been attracted to women, in fact, I have no reaction to them at all. So please, don't throw a book that has been rewritten so many times over at people when you clearly have no clue what you are talking about. This is a LEGAL matter, miss. It may have been a religous one in the past but now a days, it's purely legal as you don't need a church to get married."
"I am so thoroughly disgusted to hear people talk about how gay people decided to be gay...whatever people, and so what if they did? It still has nothing to do with you! God created Gay people, and he created straight people, if YOU have a problem with this...take it up with your GOD!!!"
"Everybody doesn't believe that people are born that way. You choose who you want to marry. People might ask me did I choose to be a heterosexual and I will respond if I choose to have sex or not for the rest of my life depends on my choice. I choose what I do with my body. Some psychologists say that pedophiles are born that way and it doesn't give them a right to be molesters."
"As a happily married man, I've never been able to understand the strong feeling some people have that marriage between loving couples of the same sex could in any way imperil anybody else's marriage.I think I've figured it out, and by gosh they've got a case.What is it that endangers and complicates marriages today? It's this. If your husband has a close business relationship with a female colleague, you suspect that it's more than business, jealousy sets in, and you become watchful. If your wife has a close friendship with a male colleague, you get jealous and worried. You know that they could divorce you, marry the other person, and go on leading perfectly respectable lives. And that very possibility brings tension and uncertainty into your marriage.Now imagine a world in which same-sex marriage is not only legal but common and respectable. If your spouse has ANY FRIENDS AT ALL, you've got reason to worry. He's just your husband's tennis partner? Wanna bet? She's just a member of your wife's book club? Yeah, right.The emotion behind the words of those who speak most feelingly against marriage equality is the fear that their own spouse might be gay. (Okay, this doesn't apply to Mr. Ratzinger.)"
"Interesting take. I'm sure married people know very well what their spouse's prevailing sexual orientation is, and know exactly who to fear of jealousy.In my opinion, that jealousy really has nothing to do with whether the potential affair can become a state recognized marriage or not. Affairs are always a threat to existing marriage of any combination, no matter if they are to become something greater or not. Even if the mistress flees the country, and there is minimal chance of him finding her again and building a new marriage, the wife is still jealous of the mistress."
"The Bible says that Gays aren't natural. And what, a talking snake is?"
"I would say to people who claimed that, how do you know it actually happened. They weren't around thenm right? They are probably like the case of Ted Haggard, and another minister in Georgia, closeted LGBT, and are ashamed to admit it. I am straight, but pro LGBT marriage. Lynn was right in her post, one daygay marriage will be legal all over the USA, but the antis won't be invited, right? Maybe that is what is bothering them, lol. Something to think about."
"the only reason the snake talked was because he was an angel that took the form of a snake...might want to read the bible a little harder next time :) and please don't take it out of context..."
"No, a talking snake isn't normal. The snake that tempted Adam and Eve (which I assume you're referring to) was posessed by Satan, a supernatural being."
"Can anyone say, "homophobe"? I seriously laugh out loud when I read some of the replies and posts by the cons. I am definitely pro on this one. I'm a straight 17-year-old female, and I honestly don't care about the gender of the person you marry--go nuts. This is another one of those things that the government shouldn't control. Back off."
"@AniI don't understand your response, sorry."
"not everyone is a homo phobe. the same way that everyone doesnt have a problem with gay marriage its the fact that every pro on this topic tends to get out of hand not just straight people against it"
"Why should the CONS give a **** what others do. No one is making any of them watch a gay couple kiss or have sex. The people against gay marriage will not go to hell because "Fred and Dave or Sally and Penny" decided to get married! But they will go to hell for having so much hatred in their hearts. Look at yourself and worry about you getting into Heaven because you will be on the same boat to your "Hell" for judging others. But thats what "good" christians do...judge, hate, gossip, etc instead of love, support, and just pray for who they think is wrong. Stop using your religion as a mask to hide behind because there are a million different religions/cultures out there."
"I am a Christian and I support same sex marriage."
"i think you put a lot of thought into this. you are the first person to mention this that i have seen. STOP DISCRIMINATION!!!!!"
"Yes, very much it should be allowed. Why do we have to force people who can't comply with straight marriage to do so? To those who are against it, what if the law didn't allow it, or for the religious types, what if the bible or whatever said it is wrong for a man to be with a woman, and the way to go, was for a man to be with a man. Could you people change and/or conform to that standard? If not, why should we force LGBT people to conform to that, right? After all, I bet alot of the antis are probably that, and are either brainwashed or secretly are ashamed of who they are, such as the case with Ted Haggard. Why do we have to force someone to comply with the standards of something frivolous, and absolutely ridiculous as marriage. Marriage is marriage, whether traditional or same sex. People fall in love with who they fall in love with. Hey, you don't have to attend their weddings, and I think that is probably what is making alot of people against it. They won't invite you, so don't worry about it, Don't flatter yourselves thinking that. To the LGBT people out there, I support your right to wed."
"Marriage was never about love, though. Its less a celebration of love and more a union of families. Its purely political. The fact that the middle-classes can get so easily married is a feat in itself"
"Of course they should be legal. I mean, homosexuality isn't a choice anymore than where you are born, or who you are born to. People don't decide who to love. You love who you love. I don't know where people get it is a choice, but it isn't. In reality you wouldn't ask someone to change certain things about them, such as their color, or their gender, right? So, why force people to marry someone if they can't love them. I know some people will say this went all the way back to the pilgrims. Well, this might be lost to history, but how do we know there weren't LGBT people in the mayflower. There could've been, but that part is completely lost to history.As far as gay marriages go, they are fighting for equal rights, nothing more. If people allowed it, it wouldn't be an issue. Now for people who are against it, if the situation was reversed, could you conform to society if the standards were different, and straight marriage was outlawed? Could you change, so you could conform to that standard, or not? If not, why force the LGBT people to conform, when we all know they can't. People can't change who they are, it's not a choice. Being open and flamboyant, now that IS a choice people make, not their sexual preference. End of story. :)"
"Actually, your statement, "People don't decide who to love," is contrary to the truth of what love really is. If people "fell" in love, then why do so many end up fighting for a divorce? Love is CHOOSING to be in a relationship with someone; a relationship that takes work, not effortlessness which would be associated with your definition of love."
"When I made the statement of people don't choose who they love, I was speaking more in the sense of being what sexual orientation they were and all that along with man falling in love with man, and woman falling in love with woman. My definition of love is when someone wants to be with someone. Now, to answer your question about fighting for a divorce, well, there are alot of reasons, such as money, or the relationship wasn't what they thought it would be, or maybe some people jumped into it too soon. I'm not a relationship counselor, but I would say I am more in favor of it than probably the average person. Also, sometimes a divorce in that happens, because two people got into a relationship for the wrong reasons, such as pity or whatnot. You'd have to ask them, but I know that it's going to be getting out there, and I welcome it. I hope I answered your question.Thank you for your comment."
"There is little enough love in this world as it is. Why should we seek to limit the ways in which people can express that love?"
"So, if i want to express my love by raping babies, that should be okay according to your argument"
"who are you to say there is little love... there is love everywhere, u just seem to overlook it"
"I'm for it because denying us marriage is wrong on ALL levels and infringes on our rights as citizens."
"Your rights end where another person's rights begin. That means that there shouldn't be kissing in public between two of the same sex. And no adoptions either, a child should have the right to have a mum an a dad. Move in with your partner, but leave adoption and marriage to men and women."
"GOD MADE GAY PEOPLE !"
"being gay is NOT a choice contary to popular thought!!"
"true !!!!! # love people for who they are"
"Yes he made gay people, but he didn't make them gay. Homosexuality is a choice, most of the time caused by abuse, deppression, or persuasion. People don't just meet someone of their own sex and "fall in love". And often enough people become gay just to be different.Homosexuality is a sin.It is a fact, not a debate."
"Ah, yes. HOWEVER, BEING GAY IS NOT A CONDITION, IT IS A PERVERSION OF MARRIAGE!!!"
"I belive that YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO JUDGE ANYONES SEX!!!!! IT IS NOT RIGHT!!! THEY DONT JUDGE YOU, OR JUDGE YOU CRUELY!!!!! SO SERIOUSLY KNOCK IT OFF AND GROW UP!!!!"
"people do judge cruelly whether you are gay or straight its a part of life and another thing YELLING AT PEOPLE TO GROW UP ISN'T MATURE so we all will grow up when you guys and girls stop having tantrums about gay marriage and how you all have a right"
"don't know who you have been dealing with bu but i am not judging im just saying that things need to be put into perspective and based on the common good of all and not just a small group"
"Oh, they don't judge me? All of the pro voters that commented on my comments have judged me by my peers and assumed that I'm a gay hater that wishes they were dead. No, they're not inherently bad people, I simply don't agree with their lifestyle."
"One's personal views and religious should never have to affect somebody else's rights."
"Yet, one's religious views would be affected if they are forced to do something that goes against what they believe. I.e, a pastor who does not believe in same sex marriage who is required by law to marry them anyways. That pastor's first amendment right is being infringed upon."
"I completely agree with you, it's not like that one persons view is the right one. It is an opinion that they should follow if they if they believe in it."
"Yes. The government has no business involving itself in religious matters. In fact, our governments should not be in the business of licensing "marriage" as the basis of that institution is religious in nature. Any domestic partnership, regardless of sexes involved, should be licensed by the state as such and matters of "marriage" left to the religious institutions. The whole issue should be side-stepped by getting out of the marriage business altogether."
"no government input should matter. gays and lesbians should have the final pick."
"You have the right idea. The government(federal) has too much power. The states should take care of their own. If you don't like your states laws there are more to choose from."
"If straight couples can have mulitple marriages why can't same gender have only one?"
"She means straight people can marry and then divorce and then re-marry again."
"Actually, only 16% of the world believes in monogamous relationships. Most others practice or support polygamy."
"Uhh no. Straight couples cannot have multiple marriages. They would receive major crap for that, even more crap than a gay person would get."
"just because im straight or heterosexual. dosnt mean im scaired of gays. in fact my adopted brother is gay and he has talked me out of depression so many times i cant keep count."
"its so sad that people are made fun of for being gay and the fact that they cant be married is just wrong. my gay friend as well is depressed at times because of what people say."
"Gay marriage should be legal because not all people are the same! Yes the Bible does say that marriage should be between man and wife, but do we honestly follow every single thing that the Bible says. If we did, then people wouldn't have sex untill after they were married.Homosexuals should also have the right because marriage shouldn't just be about the sex we are. If a man or woman truely love someone of the same sex, we shouldn't discriminate against love. How would you feel is someone said you can't marry someone you love because they don't believe it is truely right. As long as that person is happy, then they should have the right to marry whoever they want."
"Rebecca the man I love won't marry me So lets not go there lots of people can't marry the person thy love. God says a man and woman shall marry. God also says not to have sex without marriage. Just because people don't do what God says doesn't make them right."
"You have a dangerous attitude about going against God."
"Yes! Because if its love its love. No matter with whom. :)"
"then I hope you're fighting to let brothers and sisters marry each other since love is just love"
"So, if I am in love with a nine year old girl and she is in love with me, why shouldn't I be able to marry her? Oh wait, because it's pedophilia, which is illegal. What if I love the body of my dead grandmother, why should I be able to love it? That is because it is incestuous necrophilia, which is illegal. The idea of "love is love, no matter what" is not a valid point."
"How do you know its love??? What if I love my cousin... it shouldn't matter right, because it's love- No! its incest and immoral, it does matter!!!!!"
"A lot of soldiers on the battlefield love each other because they are drawn so close through the conflicts of war. But they don't marry each other. Their love is genuine but its completely different than homosexuality. Their's is an "agape love", where they will lay down there life on the line for a fellow soldier. But how did people get past that brotherly love into a more intimate love for the same sex? It just does not seem right."
"It is proven that gay marriage can cause no harm. Divorce rates are lower with gay/lesbian couples due to the fact that they havent abused rights of marriage like straight couples have. It's not right to see a man and woman hate something they got into so easily when a man and a man or a woman and a woman can't even be together in holy matrimony yet feel so deeply for one another. It's the american peoples fault that marriage is going to hell, not just gay people."
"Gay marriage is not a threat to traditional marriage. Divorce is."
"I don't get why people are making such a big deal about it. Its none of our business whom we should get married with. LOVE IS LOVE PEOPLE."
"just because people r different, doesnt mean we should treat them like inferior beings. our country has overcome a lot of obstacles ei: african amer rights, women's rights, the right for interacial marriage! This is just one more bump in the road to equality"
"Every person want to have their own partner, so gay marriage should be legal. People who fall in love should live together. Every human being want to have their own family. They are gay, but they also want to have a happiness family same as marriage couple too."
"exactly. i back you up 100% of the way."
"I grew up in a heterosexual, Christian household. When I was 4, I got my 1st crush that went all the way through my senior year of high school! It was pretty obvious to me I was different, but afraid because I didn't want to go to Hell. After 7 years of living with the same girl (and only sleeping with her..) I finally told my mother. She replied "That's not what God wants you to do." I cried myself to sleep. I moved away and eventually ended up meeting the love of my life. Before her, I didn't know what love was. We have been engaged for 2 years now, but I can't marry her. Why? Because someone decided to amend the constitution the describe marriage as a union between a man and a woman. Call it what you want..marriage, same sex union..It all means the same thing. I may be different than a lot of you, but I deserve the same rights and freedoms you all have. It must be nice for you all to know that you can marry the person you love because you're straight. What I do in my bed with my fiance has nothing to do with whether you think it's alright or not. Personally I find straight sex disgusting, it's plastered all over tv and everywhere I look. You don't see me holding up signs and chanting to stop your marriage..so why are you?"
"That's gross!! and wrong!!....Explain that to God and see if He's okay with it."
"Go get a civil union....You said you were different. Marriage is different. We are spreading our seed and creating a family. Accept the 6000 year old tradition."
"Yes, it should be legal.Because WHO CARES?If you're against gay marriage, don't get gay married."
"I AGREE 100%. THANK YOU!!!!!!!"
"Ah, If only humans could be more accepting of the unknown. I'd love me some acceptance and harmony."
"I can't believe that in the year 2012, this oppression and discrimination still exists in the country that's supposed to be the greatest in the world. I can understand this shameful behavior occurring in third world countries where people don't know any better but here in the USA we do. Or rather, we should. There is absolutely NO good reason same sex marriage should be banned. The arguments against same-sex marriage and homosexuality are ridiculous or just outright prejudice. The items under 'Con' are laughable. Some of them are outright inaccurate. Marriage pre-exists religion, so the beliefs of certain groups of people are no excuse for legislating bigotry. Homosexuality is natural, so claiming it to be unnatural is also no excuse."
"I have a question....isn't america supposed to have seperation of church and state? Just because SOME (yes not all) Christians believe it is wrong does not mean those beliefs can be enforced on this entire nation!!!!! Also if marraige is really only important for procreation...then shoudn't infertile marraiges be illegal? Yes ridicoulous!! And If a child supposedely needs both a mother and a father to ever be successful in this world....then why don't we ban single parents?? And it's not like there are poor starving homeless children out there...or children in orphanages that need to be adopted......and it's not like children are being born every day...Everyone needs to procreate or they are useless and WE NEED more children.....Yes I'm the queen of sarcasm. But really I hope for a day when this whole country wakes the heck up and allows people to marry whoever they love....seriously only 10% of people are gay so it's not like we would loose our population because of it. Gay people deserve all the rights in this Free Country. Being Gay Is NOT a choice. No one would choose to have a life where you are constantly descriminated against just by being who you are and where you are denyed rights to marraige."
"I liked your argument, but please note that there really is no such thing as "separation of church and state." That was an idea from Thomas Jefferson, but never included in the constitution. The only protection we have regarding religious freedom in the Constitution is the safeguard against establishing a set religion to all people. Separation of church and state does not show up at all in the Constitution. Also, marriage isn't a right. It's a privilege. The Constitution says nothing about marriage either. If you wanted to ban heterosexual marriage, you totally could. It's not protected. And honestly, I could care less if you did. Not like it would stop me from starting a family with the woman I love. Once again though. I really do agree with you, I just wanted to point that out. That's something that so many people in this country are ignorant about. I feel morally obligated to share that knowledge with others. Please don't take it as an attack. Sorry if it came across that way."
"more than 10% is gay. now and stare and church may be seperate but state still refers to the bible. and yes we do need more children and no one is really free we still have restricitions"
"To say that allowing gay marriage will eventually lead to allowing people to marry animals is ridiculous. For one, people are people, no matter what the sexual preference. And animals wouldn't even be able to sign marriage papers! Many say that it is unnatural. So are the clothes you wear, and most of the things you use in every day life. Some say that it's against their religion. Getting mad at someone for going against your religion is like getting upset with someone for eating a donut because you're on a diet. The Bible bans shaving, gossip, football, mixing fabrics, eating pork and lobster, and so many other things. You can't just pick and choose what to follow. Another argument would be that children need a mother and father. What about all the single parents that raise their kids? Yes, only a man and woman can reproduce, but some marriages that isn't an option. Should we ban infertile and elderly marriages too? And allowing gay marriage won't turn anyone gay just like being around tall people doesn't make you grow. The bottom line is that everyone deserves to be treated equal and fair. Gay marriage will not harm anyone, and there isn't ONE valid argument against it."
"why cant gays get married? why cant they be happy like everyone else in the twisted world? sure, you dont need marriage to be happy together but dont you find it wrong that straights can and they cant?USA, country of the free. no. clearly it is not. if you are free you should not be held back because of someone elses decision. i mean, why are gays treated so differently from straights? they're human too. they have the same feelings and deserve the same happiness."
"America is the country of the free. It is just freedom is valued more than equality."
"I'm for it because (1) gays are being denied equal rights which is what Americans boast about (2) if gays are allowed to marry, then it's not really going to affect straight people (3) church and state are seperate so religion shouldn't really affect LEGAL rights of people should they (I mean women would still be oppressed and blacks would still be slaves if that was the case) and churches can decide to not marry gay couples if they want (4) children are not being screwed over for having two same sex parents, in fact they are being taught tolerance and the value of being different and (5) gay people are human too. they have hearts, penises, vaginas, brains, and all the same body parts as everyone else. Isn't being different and unique valued in American society? :)"
"Aaron Mills, oh Aaron, how mislead you are. the 5th amendment allows citizens the 'rights of the accused', and prevents punishment without the 'due process of the law'. This means that, until convicted of a crime (Like murdering people with an ax). At that point, their rights are taken away. Also, yes, we can compare homosexuality (What makes them sexual deviants? That, dear sir, is slander) to race and gender. Blacks and women used to be oppressed, and people like you are oppressing the rights of homosexuals. *You* can't tolerate it, I can. "My right to swing my fist ends where your nose begins." Abraham Lincoln said this. I can live my life, do what I want, same as you, until it interferes with another human's rights. Such as not allowing gay's to marry.Separate but equal is NOT equal."
"You can't give equal rights to everyone. You want to give equal rights to ax murderers? You can't compare the practice of a sexual deviant to a race or a gender of people. You cannot tolerate everything. There has to be a limit."
"Gender no longer forms an essential part of marriage; marriage under law is an union of equals."
"I myself am gay. All this, "You have a choice, go get married to a guy"? Choice. Yeah, you're funny. I was born this way. Everyone that has known me since I was little says that they knew from the beginning that I was going to be gay. And you know what? They're right. You know how normally little boys are mean to the girls they like? I was the girl "bully" on the playground. I teased them and everything with all my guy friends. As life went on, all my friends were male, and we all got older. As all the little girls wanted to kiss little boys, I was left just watching, and wondering why I didn't feel the same. I didn't even know what gay was. But then, finally, I kissed a girl, and it all clicked. But no, that was my choice, of course. All you con people, keep living in your bubble. Keep thinking that it was my choice to be ostracized from some of my friends, to be teased, picked on, and oftentimes yelled at or hit by people. Keep thinking I wanted preachers to scream at me and call me devil spawn. Yup. That was my choice. Everyone voting no, please keep in mind my story, and the thousands others that are often much worse. It's not an easy life. We just want something that straight people have had for ages. Is that so bad?"
"Not at all. In act, several states, (I don't know about Washington, but I know Minnesota is debating this, or trying to lift a ban that denies it,) are allowing same sex marriages. I hope you find someone to marry. Most of those who attack do so because of the preachers, or parents who teach them that, and the sad fact is that they are also probably closeted LGBT. It wasn't a choice. So, you tried the straight thing, it didn't work out,. Okay. As far as the being gay thing, it is what it is. Most people do it because they are neanderthalistic and filled with follow the leader mentality, and for those in the closet, they hate, because someone didn't choose them, believe it or not. Maybe that's why they hate so much. Anywho, hope you find the right person."
"Gay Marriage, Yes, people who don;t like it F**k off I'm Bisexual and Gay marriage should be allowed if you don't like it well stay away from it and out of other peoples bussiness"
"The State gives married people benefits, joint ownership, hospital visitation rights, travel privileges, and many other rights for two people in a loving mutual relationship. People do not choose their gender, people do not choose who they love. The heart chooses who people love. Nobody in the womb says "Excuse me Mrs. X Chromosome, please stay away and give me a Y" or vice-versa. Gender is out of our control at birth and remains so until people can become trans. To deny people to marry the person they love and give rights to some people but not others is discriminatory hence immoral. To those who say straight marriage is the only "traditional" institution than why has homosexuality existed in numerous cultures forever alongside heterosexuality in peace and harmony for thousands of years? Also, if you are going to take the Christian path, The Bible never mentions that Jesus condemned homosexuality, and said that all the laws hang on two principles, love your god, and love your neighbor, and every law for Christians must follow one of these. Denying Homosexuality is breaking the second. By denying gay marriage as a Christian people are not loving your neighbor and breaking the highest commandment of Christianity."
"Yet, you don't understand the idea of loving your neighbor. If you knew that your neighbor was going to die a terrible death, you would attempt to change that. Christians believe that homosexuals are going to Hell, and they wish to prevent that from happening."
"why does it even matter if you're gay or not. every state allows people to "bear arms" (yes it takes a lot of paperwork and time) and shoot pretty much anyone you want but you can't spend the rest of your life with the person you love."
"If someone loves someone it shouldn't matter if they are gay or not, it is how they're lifestyle is, they love that person! People shouldn't judge someone for how they feel it shouldn't matter!!!"
"So a 14-year-old girl can have sexual relations with her married, middle-aged teacher because they love each other?"
"I belive gay marriage should be legal because if tehly are happy just leave them be! They dont judge you, swo why should you judge them? They are just human beings!!! Just think how they feel, being hated for their sexuality. Gay, Lesbian, Bi Sexual, It dosnt matter! Just be who you are!"
"I am so for it! It's not fair that men can beat women and people can kill others but you cant be homosexual in this country."
"What? Men can't beat women and people can't kill (unless you're talking about abortion). Those are illegal, and are punished much more severely than if you are gay. In fact it's not a crime to be gay, you just can't get pointless tax benefits you don't deserve which is all marriage does for them anyway."
"It's not fair for men to beat women and kill each. In almost all cases killing is illegal and in all cases beating women is illegal"
"i totally for gay marriag this is awesome"
"Really? That's your argument? Did you know that domestic abuse is illegal and that you can go to jail for it? Did you know that murder is punishable by death in some states?"
"There isn't a lot of evidence to support the "con"s opinions. It's mostly just a collaboration of "it's wrong.", "it's not natural." and "the Bible says so." If those people spent half as much time arguing something that doesn't affect them into something useful, the world would be a much better place. If your God created these homosexual people, then why did he make them so "wrong?" Marriage is a LEGAL contract that everyone should have a right to. And if you don't believe that then you simply can't call yourself an American."
"I've so got to reply to this. GOD DID NOT CREATE HOMOSEXUAL PEOPLE!!! NOR DID HE CREATE HOMOSEXUALITY!!! Homosexuality is a perversion of marriage by Satan!"
"Gay marriage is a sin. I am not sure where but in the Bible it says as time goes on, the folowers of God will be prescueted by others who don't believe. They will be proven against with lies, and misinterpertation. And I can see that with the votes. All the comments that are against gay marriage, have low votes, and the ones who are for gay marriage, have higher votes. That in itself proves there is a God. Because it will get harder and harder for us christians to hold fast as the time comes where we will figth satan and his followers. When every knee will be bowed before and every tongue will proclaim him King of Kings, andthat he IS God."
"if they say that marriage is for a man and a woman, than why not name it something else an give it another meaning, as for a man and a man to be joined, than will is be legal? and what does their personaly life have to do with you? how is it hurting you?"
"love is love...who ever they are with doesnt matter as long as they are happy... i kow who it is when to ppl love each other n i wont want to b w someone i didnt love."
"So, if I'm in love with my baby cousin, why shouldn't I be allowed to be happy with her? Thank you so much for your support, because love is love after all."
"I fail to see where gay couples getting married and raising children can do more harm to society than mass murderers and abusive parents of any sexual orientation. We as a society are more concerned with whether or not two consenting adults should get married than preventing child abuse and neglect. That is wrong, and it is sickening. The government and society in general just needs to stay out of peoples' marriages and beds. Repeal ridiculous DOMAs and start focusing on the real issues in our society."
"I have difficulty with the concept of same sex marriage. Nonetheless, America is about liberty, and if two adults of the same sex want to get married, my personal beliefs and those of our lawmakers should not infringe upon the rights of others to do what they choose."
"That's a pretty mature statement. We need more people like you in this world."
"You rock. Thanks so much for this. :)I'm not even gay and I am happy to read this and hear there are people who think this way."
"I'm pro because my parents are gay and I want them to equal right, especially since they have 3 kids(including me)."
"mine are too. :) ive been teased all my life by ignorant people even though im strait... LEGALIZE gay marraige. :3"
"YUCK!..i feel sorry for you :/"
"As a gay teenager in high school I don't understand what the big deal is with excepting people for whom they are. People in my school don't think of me any different because I choose a different sexual preference then them, they RESPECT it, the way it should be all over. I have struggled for many years to comprehend this in a biblical aspect, and to be honest, I think its just as biblical as choosing your favorite color. Being gay isn't a choice, if it was the world would be MUCH different. People need to respect people for whom they are. If my partner and I want to have a legalized marriage, nobody should stop me, and quite frankly its discrimination. " The white light streams down to be broken up by those human prisms into all the colors of the rainbow.""
"I'm sorry Zach you have me a little confused. In the first part of your comment you say, "People in my school don't think of me any different because I choose a different sexual preference then them." Yet in the later part of your comment you say, "Being gay isn't a choice" but you just said you choose a different sexual preference then other people in your school.....so did you choose to be gay or not?"
"I think that gay marriage should be allowed in every part of the world. If two people love eachother and want to be together forever then that should be it. Let them do it. The saying "Love Is Love" should be used. In the religious aspect of everything God says in the Bible that you should love everyone and treat them with kindness and compassion. So people who discriminate against the same sex wanting to be together are not Christians or do not believe in God. Places where they have same sex marriage banned are going to have chaos if they dont legalize it soon. I strongly believe that if two people love eachother then let them do what they want. If any oppurtuity comes up where love is shown then it's just making the world a more loving place."
"Whoa whoa, don't lump atheists and agnostics in with the bigots and hypocrites. You don't have to believe in god to have a sense of morality."
"You know why we think it's wrong? It's because we've been told it is wrong. If we've been told the opposite, then we'd think it would be right."
"it is wrong but if people two people of the same sex then they should be aloud to marry because thats called love"
"not everyone believes in the bible. the bible is not our constitution. you are closed minded to think that everyone has to do what the bible says. it is against the country's constitution to discriminate against gays and deny their rights. just because you don't like it, that isn't a good enough reason for it to be illegal. if a guy wants to marry another guy, why shouldn't he? it doesn't affect you. it's not your business. stay out of it, why does it matter to you."
"Yet the idea is what happens when those who do follow the Bible practice their beliefs and refuse to marry a homosexual couple? If the law says they must, then their First amendment right is being infringed upon."
"Well, everyone is equal and it IS NO ONE elses business. Even if it is against your certain religion. I think it should be legal."
"Let my ask you this: Who defines marriage? Why should it be illegal to marry someone you love? Did you, who are straight choose to be straight? Being gay is a genetic predisposition and should be considered perfectly natural in society. Instead people get so obsessed with not wanting change and the thought of someone being different from them comes as a threat. Lets make this world a better place, legalize gay marriage. There is nothing it will hurt."
"a new born baby can not just decide im gay or a lesbian because they like what they see down there."
"it is unconstitutional to take away someones rights just because they are different. i potition that all states let homosexual marrages be legal."
"Sorry pal but there's some irony in what you just said. You say it's unconstitutional to not allow gays to marry each other, despite the fact that that is nowhere in the Constitution. Yet it IS in the Constitution of many states that marriage is a man and a woman. And you say you want it legal in all states. Therefore, it would be unconstitutional to make it legal in like thirty-three of those states."
"I think gay marriage should be legal because every one should be free to do any thing they want"
"so your saying that if i wanted to go kill someone i should be aloud to, because thats what i want??"
"The issue of marriage equality should not even be an issue. Since this appears to be a question of politics (although that's ridiculous since it's much too personal for that) let's talk politics. This country was founded on the basis of equal rights, meaning gender equality, racial equality, social equality, and yes, LGBT+ equality. This country needs to realize that if we deny one class of citizens their rights, we ourselves can never, ever use our constitution as a valid argument, as we've already crossed it.Since people often seem to bring religion into the picture, may I remind you of the separation of church and state. You can't bring someone's religious opinion into an issue like this.Finally, let's just talk common sense. People say that love has no limits. Then why are we limiting it? Marriage is the ultimate sign of a loving, committed relationship, so no one should be barred from that."
"Benjamin Franklin said that there should be a strict wall between church and state when discussing the constitution in congress. Our Gov't has no right to write a law against something that is religious, same sex marriage should be legal."
"@ AlexHunter. He also flew a kite in a storm. What's your point?"
"Benjamin Franklin cheated on his wife"
"I notice a lot of CON people saying how disgusting it is to see two homosexual individuals making out in public. FYI it's disgusting to see anyone making out in public. Really, common courtesy people. Anyways, my view is, let them marry. It's not effecting my life at all and besides, to each his own. If marrying the same sex makes you happy, go for it. If marrying the opposite sex makes you happy go for it. It's not really my place to say who can do what."
"As long as its not affecting my life... I don't care."
"im pro because being a bisexual woman,i believe if you are in lvoe with another person of the same sex it should be ok.i mean think about how far relationships have come, blacks and whites are able to marry so why not the same sex"
"yes many people think gay marriga is terrible,its not christain. w/e..it is in the constituition that we have rights.being gay doesnt bothr anyone.you arer simply jsut biased.and judgmental. it will not affect straight people in any way..grow up and stop being childish because we are not bothering anyone.we have felings and its already hard to be accepted by family so stop making it even more hard.you dont know us .."
"blacks and whites you are bringing race into something totally different. They are going to be man and woman no matter their color, they were born black and white but the people who are gay weren't born gay."
"LOVE IS JUST LOVE!!! DOESN`T MATTER WHAT GENDER THEY ARE!!! WE ARE ALL EQUAL AND SHOULD BE TREATED EQUALLY!!!!"
"In a secular country, as the USA is (or is supposed to be), a gov't recognized/sanctioned marriage bestows a certain respect (not to mention over 1000 other rights) to the couple who have married. To not allow same-sex adults to marry is blatant discrimination & fuels bigotry which is based on the ignorance of others. The majority do not have the right to pass laws against the minority."
"'Congress shall make no law... prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech' That's from the Bill of Rights. Same-sex marriage isn't wrong. It's actually sort of genetic. The Bible isn't meant to dictate what laws should be vetoed or voted for. Religion will never fit with Politics. There are just too many religions, and us Athiests are tired of it! We need to stop all our fussing about this so-called 'Bible' and focus on something like our economy!"
"I'm just wondering how marriage is an act of speech? Yet, in the first amendment it says that the government shall not do anything to prohibit the practice of religion. So what happens when a church refuses to marry a homosexual couple? According to a law that says it is illegal to do such, the church must marry them. Yet, such a law would infringe on the church's first amendment right."
"THANK YOU!!!!ATHEIST ARE SUPER TIRED OF IT!!!"
"I am a 15 year old girl. i have been with an other girl sence i was 12. not very many people think i am bisexual. i used to have lots of friends but when they found out about my girlfriend, they stopped liking me. I say it is wrong to judge people on what they do and do not like. many of my friends would still be here if they didnt know about my dissition. well i say its NONE of YOUR bisness and and it is NONE of your consern. thank you and have a nice day."
"My parents are lesbians and they have raised me just as well as any other straight family could! I love them so much."
"wow it would be kool. im transgender. i wish i had a child like u :))god bless"
"YES, GAY LESBIAN AND ALL TRANSGENDERED MATING UNIONS SHOULD BE PROTECTED IN THE LAW TOO. tHOSE SEEKING SUCH PROTECTION SHOULD KEEP IN MIND THEIR RIGHTS AS MARRIED PARTNERS WILL SOMETIME INCLUDE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF IN HOME PARENTING AS SOME GAY PARTNERS HAVE ALREADY UNDERTAKEN WITH SUCCESS IN ADOPTION AND FOSTERHOME CARE PROGRAMS, NATIONWIDE AND WORLDWIDE. CONSERVATIVE SUPPORT FOR SUCH UNIONS WILL CONTINUE TO RISE, AND OPENLY PROMOTED COUPLING, FULLY PROTECTED WITH APPROPRIATE LEGAL AUTHORITY REGARDING HUMAN AND CIVIL RIGHTS FOR THOSE SEEKING SUCH, WILL CONTINUE AS LONG AS THOSE CLAIMING GAY LESBIAN, ETCETERA STATUS ARE UPSTANDING, RESPONSIBLE AND MATURE PEOPLE, CAPABLE OF CONTRIBUTING TO WHAT THE TRADITION OF MARRIAGE WAS MADE TO BE UNDER GOD."
"i agree. im actualy writing a persuasive paper on it."
"im writing a persuasive paper on this and im all for it and i world like to use your comment on my paper"
"well whatya know? Me too"
"I am debating with this topic with my partner in front of my entire class"
"I have two friends that are lesbians. They got married in Vermont a few years ago, and want nothing more than to live peacefully together. However, they cannot do this, because one of them is an Irish citizen and one of them is an American citizen. They can only visit each other because the federal governments of both countries do not recognize same sex marriage so they are not given immigration benefits. That's not right. That's not fair. This needs to change. Leaving things the way they are right now is leaving my friends an ocean away from each other. Love is love, and keeping them apart is cruel."
"Once again this is a clear example of other people trying to manage other people's lives. Of course it should be legal. For those of you who say that it should not be legal how exactly is it harming you? Is it a crime? Are you losing money? Better yet is it any of ya d*** business what other people do? UM.....NO! The counterarguments all come out with religion. Ican't think of something that is more useless to mankind than religion. Well maybe except Brittney Spears and Paris Hilton. Still, religion is nothing but modern day mythology. I love fantasies and fables too....when I was 8 years old.No one is harmed. People are just happy. Some of us are h***bent on making others unhappy. Grow up ladies and gents. Gay Marriage will not harm YOU in any way."
"Denying an individual's fundamental rights not only goes against the Constitution, but also will be keeping many singles from finding true love."
"If they are happy then yeah leave them alone, god loves all his children and if he can see their happy then he may except their diffrences ! people #relize"
"I don't understand how this is even a topic for debate. How other people can try to make very personal choices for someone else is moronic. I don't understand how someone can feel like they can tell someone else what to do with their own ideas"
"love is free. and we live in the land of the free, and letting gays get married will do no harm to us what so ever."
"Who are we to tell someone who they can and cannot marry? It's ridiculous."
"i am a pro because like every one else gays should choose to live their life with whom they love even if its with the same sex"
"Everyone should have the right to be with the one they love."
"Everyone has that right. That doesn't mean they have to rub everyone else's faces in it. I'm not discriminating against gays, either, but straight people as well"
"I'm heterosexual, and I don't plan to marry another man, but that gives me, nor the majority, any rigth to enforce our beliefs on our fellow homosexual citizens. It makes me absolutely sick that people are revoked such righs due to their differences today. This is as disgraceful as when inter-racial marriage was illegal. People are prejudiced, fools."
"Both orientations exist because of evolution. If we were all straight, the planet would have starved to death a long time ago. If we were all gay, there would be no repopulation. But the symbiosis of the two ensures survival of the species and they should both be represented equally. After all, homosexuality has been discovered in at least 475 species of animals. Therefore, that which occurs in nature is what? Natural. The purpose of sex is procreation? Who would claim that everytime they had sex, it was to just procreate? Should a sterile man not have the right to marry a fertile woman? Should a widow and widower beyond childbearing years not be allowed to fall in love and marry? Love should be allowed to be expressed equally, and the church should revisit only the words in the Bible which are in red. This is my commandment that ye love one another that your joy may be full. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. There are no outcasts."
"I believe in the legalization of gay marriage because it's not a question of sexual preference, it's a question of equality. But then again, who believes in equality nowadays? oh wait... that's right, most of the world. ;)"
"Gay marriage should be legal because love is love. I am Christian and I know that apparently it says something in the bible about no gay marriage. But how are we going to base our life off of a book that was written how long ago? God loves his children, and believe it or not, he loves his gay/bisexual children too. They were born this way, straight, gay, or bi. Everyone who thinks other should check themselves. They are on the wrong side of history. If you don't believe in gay marriage, don't marry someone the same gender as you. Simple as that."
"If you can be happy, why shouldn't gays????"
"Love is Love. It's as simple as that. I'm a christian and I believe that Jesus taught us to love others and not judge them. Same-sex marriages should be allowed because marriage is a right that should be granted to all. For those saying they want to strengthen marriage, then why don't we get rid of no-fault divorces? Or if the purpose of marriage is for reproduction, then should we not allow infertile couples or the aging to marry?? (Levy, Robert) Research has already shown that " Massachusetts, which became the first state to legalize gay marriage in 2004, had the lowest divorce rate in the country in 2008." (Procon.org) Honestly, all should be allowed to get married. Rather it be a civil marriage (because civil unions just don't cut it- separate but equal is not legal) or a traditional marriage. Though I do believe that churches should not be forced to marry couples, but all human beings should be allowed to get married."
"Homosexuality exists in over 300 species and yet we are the ONLY ones with homophobia. Think about that,"
"Gay marriage being illegal is denying U.S. citizens their basic rights. Go read the 14th Ammendment. And what happened to 'Seperation of Church and State'? America is crumbling from its foundation. This shouldn't even be a debate topic."
"gay marriage never hurt anyone! we were taught as young children to accept others for their differences yet we can put laws down to say that homosexuals have no right to marry? this is wrong, they deserve a right to be who they are! and it will not hurt society in any way, if not society will benifit, learning to accept others even if they are different!!!!"
"People should be free to decide for themselves who they will marry, be that person another male or another female. Marriage is not just a contract to be signed and followed according to tradition, but a also a symbol of unconditional love and devotion to another person, something to show that you want to be with them for the rest of your life, no matter what. Something like that should be free to anyone. You don't like the idea of marriage? Stuff it. Don't get married, then.You don't like the idea of gays and lesbians getting marred? So what. That's your own damn problem. Don't go screwing up other people's lives just because your narrow mind won't allow you to accept any other form of love than the kind tradition spotlights.As for me, I want to be married someday. I want to get down on one knee and propose to the girl I love.Would you deny me that?I didn't choose to be the way I am, but it's the way I've always been. Gays and Lesbians deserve rights just like any other human beings."
"Growing up in modern society is rough. People are becoming more and more opinionated, and if you don't believe what they believe, you're wrong. A lot of people today are ignorant and don't research their topics. Gay marriage is just another thing we face in life. We shouldn't discriminate based on it. We have stopped discriminating by race and gender, so why should we discriminate by their sexuality? All human beings have different views and opinions, but just because someone doesn't believe in something, doesn't mean they should have the right to treat that person unequally. I lost a gay friend do to them harassing him about it. Human beings are all the same once you remove their skin and muscles. We are all skeletons, and we should treat each other fairly. If we don't start soon, what will our future generation turn out like? I am only fourteen years old and I am concerned for all of us. What happened to being united and loving one another? That's what life is about. Hopefully people realize that eventually."
"Marriage isn't the joining of two people who have intentions of raising and nurturing children. It never has been. There have been many married couples whos have not had children. The fact of the matter is that marriage is the joining of two hearts that can't seem to live without each other. Straight couples do this, and they often get divorced after swearing to love each other until death do them part. If straight couples can attempt to work out a marriage, why can't homosexual couple have this same privilege? After all, you're either gay, or you're not. You don't choose to be gay, but no one spitefully causes you to be gay either. Love knows no bounds. It can't hear, speak, touch, smell, or taste. It doesn't discriminate like many of our own kind. Keep in mind that I'm heterosexual. I love women and their bodies. If I can say that, and then tell you that hating on gays and their right to be married is wrong, then maybe it will open your eyes and your minds a little more.As for people who argue that gay marriage will destroy the boundaries between state and religion, that boundary shouln't even exist. The government should stand alone. The church should have absolutely no say in what happens in politics."
"Being gay is something you are born with you cant wake up one day and say " im gonna be gay". thats like saying one day your are just gonna be black or white or asian. Not allowing gays to marry is cruel and unjust they are people just like you and me. they feel the same thing that we feel. allowing the banning of same sex marriage is saying its okay to hate against someone wo is different. america is about accepting people for who they are and allowng them to live freely. people say it is against God's will. maybe it is but we are not God and souldnt judge. in the bible it says only God can judge others not us. let them live there lives without judgment and them being marked as outsiders."
"I am 20 and my favourite uncle is gay, my parents even my christian parents chose him as my godfather. There is nothing wrong with gay marriage, I mean ever since the state is involved in in marriage it isn't just a matter of the church any more and therefor should be made legal everywhere, anything else is just a way of discrimination, sexual orientation should be in the same sentence as religion, colour of the skin and ethnic background."
"Love is loving someone and having them love you back. Dont matter skin color, shape,height, gender. Love is having someone that you want to be with till the end of time. I hate when people judge me because im a lesbian. Love me for who i am and not what i like. Its not hurting you so why are you worried about it. Me and my girlfriend have been together for 2 years and we are getting married in california this year. Love is the same for everyone an and man or woman and woman. We all need love."
"People who aren't gay have the right to marry who they love, so why can't gay couples marry the person they love? We are all the same, our feelings for people are the same, but other people are taking control, and saying that some people can do this, while others cannot, which is completely unfair. I'm in 7th grade, and even though I'm not gay, I still believe that others have the right to marry who they want, and love who they want. And people can't tell you to love someone."
"i totally agree im in 7th grade also and i dont think people should be able to judge you whether your straight gay bi lesbain it shouldnt matter cuz we are all the same but just like diffrent things. and i personally dont think religeous belsifs should matter either."
"I believe that same sex marriage should be legal because each human being should be treated equally. And I believe that California should encourage gay marriage AGAIN. California approved of it already, but they changed their minds. The question is why is that? Are they offended by it? But they're the ones who approved of it though. Same sex couples aren't offending you, embarrassing you, hurting you, so why in the world can you not encourage gay marriages? It's just nonsense to know that they don't think gay marriage should not be encouraged. There's no reason why it should be illegal. People do it anyway, so why bother make it illegal? It's doesn't make any sense! From personal experiences of my family members, I think we should encourage gay marriage. Once again, it's not hurting you, so don't hurt other people who it's right."
"I support marriage equality because I believe that gay and straight people are equal. Therefore, gays should receive the same rights as straight people. To deny them these rights suggests otherwise, which I find horribly wrong."
"ok so if straits have the right to be strait so should we gays and i dont care if its against the bible its perfictally right to be gay strait lesbiand transgendre or what ever just stop the torture."
"Gay marriage should be legalized because the ability to love and commit to another person is a right that all people should have."
"My name is Shaelyn and i'm a High School student. I take part in no religion and I am not currently really close with any homosexuals. So I think it's pretty safe to say that I come from a neutral background. I don't see any reason as to why gays shouldn't be together. If they make each other happy, let it be. You know that saying, "if it isn't broken, why fix it?" Well that applies here. If they're happy and they're not hurting anyone, let it be. There's no reason for other people to butt their nose into their business.. You don't see gays trying to tell people what they're doing right and not right. It's ridiculous. People need to not criticize and move forward to the future. A future that consists of gay marriage."
""The fact is, that [it] is not a choice to be black, but it is a choice - I know you don't like this, but it is obviously a choice to be homosexual."Okay, if it is a choice to be homosexual, let me ask you this: When did you decide to be straight?Exactly - you didn't. I'm straight, but I've never thought "Hmm, should I like men, or women?" I've just been naturally inclined towards men - and I am a woman. This is not something you can control, just as much as you cannot force someone to love the color pink."
"if someone loves someone let them get married regardless of gender i wuld know :)"
"Firstly, this may be a petty point, but it seems to me that many more of the con comments have extremely poor grammar and were very difficult to read.But my main point is, if you don't like gay marriage, DON'T GET ONE. No one is forcing you to get married to the next person of your gender that you see. If it's against your religion, DON'T GET ONE. It's pretty simple, really."
"If two people are in love, should they not be joined together? Why should gays and lesbians be excluded? I understand that this can pose problems for children, but could they not seek help and still be supported by their parents? And if you believe religion should step in here, realize that there has always been 'forbidden love' and that you usually feel sympathy for the two lovers and want them to be joined together (e.g. Romeo and Juliet). Also, if homosexual rights should be given, what about the polygamous marriage? Why should that not be allowed? Let love exist and flourish, or you may be no better than Adolf Hitler prosecuting people of Jewish religion. (Also, to those who find two women or two men together disturbing, why didn't you turn away? I'm merely thirteen and would like to know more about the wonderful people in this society. Thank you.)"
"i think people have the right to be happy so they should do what they want to do its not effecting me at all"
"Most whom are "con" are Christians, yet isn't that by definition: without judgement? Why should someone care what others have done or choose to do? Gay marriage aside (which by science [another evil empire of Christianity] has proven homosexuality is not a choice.), who really gives a damn. Why shouldn't same-sex couples be subjected to the bliss and hell of being sealed together in this life and perhaps beyond? Religion, I have learned, is the only unchecked virus on this planet..and incubation is short."
"People should be able to love and marry whoever they want regardles of the gender. It is rediculus that the government wont let people mary whoever they want because they are uncomforatable with having to deal with the nay sayers."
"Of course it should be legalized. Although some religions may not accept same sex marriage, everyone should get the right to a civil marriage."
"Just because I'm not going to marry a woman, doesn't mean I have the right to take that away from someone else. Skin is skin. Love is love. And if two men want to marry each other because they are madly in love, how does that concern me in even the slightest? And for you Jesus-loving Christians, aren't we supposed to accept everyone for who they are? Doesn't god want all of his children to be themselves?"
"God wants us to follow his commandments. Think about what you are saying. If I wanted to be a child molester, are you telling me that God would want me to "just be myself"? Of course not. If you're gonna support gay marriage...fine. I disagree, but it will be difficult to change anyone's mind once they're for it. But I wish gay marriage supporters would at least have the decency to not point out that our religion should be for it. Trying to say homosexuality isn't in the Bible is like saying the Holocaust didn't happen, yet people will still try and deny that it's forbidden in there."
"I am DEFINITELY pro because LOVE IS LOVE for 1! And 2, I am a 16yr old girl that is madly in love with my 18yr old fiancee... I am determined to find a state that allows gay marraige and I'm going to marry her. If you don't like it, my opinion is... MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS... THIS IS MY LIFE AND I'M GOING TO BE IN CHARGE OF IT... You can't help who you fall in love with."
"I am definitely for same sex marriage, and I support it one hundred percent, but don't you believe that you have not reached the full developmental state to understand the responsibilities and feelings that come with marriage. I myself am only 16 years old, And I can not even imagine myself getting married at such a young age. I am still pursuing my highschool career and hope to become a more rounded person with age. Perhaps you should take your time, and wait for marriage before you take the steps to marriage."
"You can help who you marry."
"I am a gay man and feel that in the eyes of those above they want us to be happy no matter!!"
"Happiness is not the same as temptation. Happiness is knowing where your values are and a life full of meaning. however, you decide what is happiness and what is meaning. Same-same marriage is more tempting where it is illegal."
"Every single argument listed on here that is against gay marriage has absolutely no validity. Usually there are valid points on both sides. In this case, none. Seriously, basing laws on religious beliefs is no better than the Sharia Law that allows for honor killings. Of all the con arguments here, this is the most inspiring I've ever heard and should be applied to every controversial thing that requires taxpayer money to support... "We should not have to pay with our taxes for stuff we don't believe in." !!! What a concept!Wouldn't the real power of the people be in the ability to vote with dollars every time we pay taxes? I'd like to be able to check off stuff I want my taxes to support. This could very well be the answer to world peace and quality education for all. True genius."
"Whether one is homosexual or heterosexual is not due to any learned response. Both homosexuals and heterosexuals are what they are because nature made them so. All persons should be treated as human beings. No person should be oppressed simply because that person is different or thinks differently than another person. The real reason that some people want the14th Amendment repealed, is because treating people equally doesn't fit, "Their Freedom of Religion." All humans, whether believers or non-believers, deserve the same treatment. Churches that recognize homosexual marriage are excersing their Freedom of Religion just as much as Churches that do not recognize homosexual marriage. The U. S.Constitution and several State Constitutions say both concepts are in fact protected Freedom of Religion, and cannot be expressed in a manner that makes one concept superior to the other. Some of these Constitutions say this expressly, and some imply it through Construction and implication, which is a necessary and proper way to interpret all of those Constitutions. Making homosexual marriage a moral issue makes it a to be of the Pharisees and Sadduccees that I must be 10 times more righteous than to get to the Kingdom of Heaven."
"I guess the way I feel is that I do not agree or disagree with the matter. I look at it this way. As long as someone does not push their way of life on anyone else. It is up to them the way they live it. I guess what I am saying. If you want to call it marriage or legal union. If a couple or together and something happens to one of them. They should inherit all the property they share. Since they did combine it together."
"I'm pro because this issue has to do with human rights and all members of LGBT are HUMANS."
"The arguments put forward by the CON side of this debate are almost entirely based on religious and/or logically shaky foundations. Specifically the idea that allowing gay marriage would further weaken an already weakened institution. This notion is absurd, as allowing more people who love each other to marry each other surely would only strengthen the institution of marriage rather than detract from it."
"I think the CON side is more concerned with the ensuing divorces that are going to come from an entire group of people getting the right to marry."
"A man has "the right to marry a woman."A woman does not have "the right to marry a woman."So, a man and a woman do not have the same marriage rights.This is basic logic that was established by Aristotle.Men and women should share ALL the same rights."
"How would you feel if you were gay and reading these comments get over it, its a free country"
"I find it comical that when people were marrying their cats and 'Who wants to marry a millionaire' was making a mockery of the 'constitution of marriage' no one said anything. But as soon as two consenting adult males or females that love each other want to have the benefits of being in a life long relationship its this huge issue all of the sudden. A lot of you preach about what the bible says but appear to selectively forget the fact that being intolerant and hateful was not apart of it. Yes a man and a man and a woman and a woman should have the right to marriage and right to the benefits and protections it provides."
"I am pro because i feel that love is not only between a man and woman but between two people that love and care for one another be it two men or two women. That is a personal issue and if two people love one another they should be able to marry."
"I'm pro because the treatment of gay by christians scare me. We claim to preach love but the crulety is unbound."
"It is unfair for same-sex marriage to be related to polygamous marriage. It is still between two people, devoted to each other, who usually want to start a family and who want the same governmental rights associated with marriage and child-rearing as other couples."
"I don't understand why its so wrong to let gay and lesbian couples to marry. Homosexuals are people too and it is NOT a choice to be gay. You don't just wake up and say i think im gonna be gay today. That is not how it works. You can't help who you are attracted to."
"I believe that we are all here to experience emotions. Specifically love and happiness. If you fall in love with a person with the same gender and it would bring you happiness to marry them, then great! I don't think it's right to prevent others from happiness."
"We should emphasize that homosexuality is never a choice. Neither is heterosexuality. Does anyone wake up in the morning and decide to be gay? I hear they make great parents too. Over 400 various animals have homosexual relationships. Check out the albatross research. Those birds are not marked by how they look. Researcher was so astonished she tested the whole colony again!Ellen C."
"Marriage won't guarrantee happiness"
"i'm pro gay marriage because, if you love that person it should be ok to be with them for the rest of your life. also the good part about this is since they can't have there own children they can adopt, so children spend less time in orphanages, and with a loving family."
"Absollutely, gay marriage should be allowed. The contingency that some view marriage is religous values, however in the US we are guanranteed religous freedom under the constition, who is to say what each US citizens beleif in these values are? I also beleive when 2 people committ to each other in love & matrimony & deticate their lives to each other-who has a moral right to object? Love&devotion should not be interferred with. Laws are to protect people not to constrain choices that cause no harm. No matter what an individuals beleifs are laws should not forbade the freedom of choice. Besides who is to say God would prevent love? God is love. As for those who say marriage is about procreation-what about those who cant have children, should they not be allowed to marry? God is w/in a person, the church may not be caught up w/Gods love,or caught up w/Gods love for all? There is no impirical evidence that gay marriages would cause divorce w/hetrosexuals-they been getting divorce for multiple years on their own. And what I dont get is why would a person care-or prevent those that want to married no matter the sex want to stop freedom of choice, whether by laws or by discrimination?"
"Everybody has the right to love. Just because to people are the same sex doesn't mean they can't love. Taking away the right for gays to marry is like taking away their rights to love one another. Love is love no matter if it's heterosexual or homosexual. Why take away their rights. Gays are people too."
"I am doing a research paper for my english class on same-sex marrige and upon reading both views, pro and con, I saw that the views that are against tensd to be for pretty stupid reasons. I am not that religious myself but i really don't think a person should use religion to justify their personal biggotness toward this type of "issue" or any type for that matter. i am still young and everyone has their own opinion so i can't really do much about how people feel toward things."
"It is marriage equality, and I believe that the 14th amendment of the constitution that states "equal protection under the law" guarantees for all citizens to have the right for same sex marriage to be legalized.By the way, I'm 14 years old and studying this topic."
"Yet no where in the law is there anything that says anyone has a right to marriage. So, the fourteenth amendment has no ground here."
"I'm 12 and doing a research paper on this as well and you just made a very good point so thanks for the information."
"Marriage is fundamentally a civil arrangement: there is no prohibition against heterosexual atheists getting married by a justice of the peace. Those who desire a religious ceremony when they marry are, of course, free to do so, but religion's role is dependent only on the beliefs and wishes of the couple getting married. They may reject it completely. Remove religious beliefs from the conversation about marriage and there is no plausible argument against gay marriage. None. Just as there is no plausible argument against interracial marriage. So, everyone needs to just enjoy their relationships and accept the fact that other people's marriages in no way detract from theirs or interfere with the core beliefs that determine how they decide to live their lives. It's time to give everyone else the same consideration that you would expect."
"As long as two people love each other, they should have the right to get married. It has no effect on you if two people get married, whatever their genders. Why should you be concerned with what others do?"
"So as long as a fifty year old man loves that twelve year old girl and she loves him, why shouldn't they be allowed to marry? Oh wait, because that's pedophilia and it's illegal. Therefore, the argument of if two people love each other is not a valid argument."
"I'm HI IQ (MENSA), well educated (4 degrees), ex-Regular Army & have vigorously opposed ALL forms of ignorance and bigotry for my entire life. I have ALWAYS known that heterosexuality, homosexuality, and bisexuality are NORMAL inherited genetic natural orientations which are NOT "preferences" that any person can chose. NO WAY! What's in the brain stays there, regardless of who one has sex with, and some poor souls try to prove otherwise as they fear the wrath of others. Hate must end!"
"@Doc Kent. Ah, no. I'm sorry. BEING GAY IS NOT A CONDITION!!! God created us perfect. Homosexuality is not perfect. THEREFORE, GOD DID NOT CREATE HOMOSEXUALITY!!! It is NOT inherited. HOMOSEXUALITY IS A PERVERSION OF MARRIAGE BY SATAN!!! I'm not hating! I love gay people! But I don't love their actions! Same with God!"
"gay marriage should be legal!! any person should be able to fall in love with whoever they want. there should be no damper on love."
"I think we should leaglism gay marriages because the gays are not hurting us . If you don't approve of itit is really none of your bussiness. You can look away. If you love that person then it does not matter if women marrying a women or a men marrying a man. It is none of your bussiness stay out of other people bussiness. Everyone has an option. You have yours and they have theirs. JUST LEAVE GAYS ALONE!!!!! Any gays out I SUPPORT YOU."
"this is write if its wrong speak the truth"
"there's absolutely nothing wrong with gay marriage. if two people are committed and in love, there is NO reason they shoud be denied marriage. gay marriage will NOT lead to a "slippery slope" of anything. stop being ignorant."
"If you replace the word "gay" with the word "pedophile" in any pro-gay sentence, will it make it okay for pedophiles to get married?"
"Everyone should be aloud the right right to marry, no matter what religion, race, wealth, or sexuality."
"I am a homosexual and honestly LOVE IS LOVE and why can't I live with my girlfriend ? So why can't I have a little paper that says I am married to the girl I love? Either way gays will be around and they will live and act like a married couple or go some where else . And we we can reperdouce , by artfical or adoption and raise a child. SO WHAT PEOPLE ARE GAY atleast they are happy , arent you? Either way population will grow , and if a child gets raised in a homosexual house hold, who is anyone to say its worse then living in a crack house or an abusive house ?"Gay Marrige is a postitive thing our world could use , gay people can raise a child BETTER then a father-mother household. A "normal" household parents are abusing their child and on dugs. LOVE IS LOVE why should people have to hide who they are to be "normal" Nobody is "NORMAL" if they where the world whouldn't be the shi whole it isand we wouldnt be at war. Why deny someone to have it say on paper their married? Either way gays will be around and will live and be togther as a married couple.""
"May I note something before I make my statement? A lot of the con have incorrect grammar...Any way when I was little, I thought WE ARE THE SAME then school 'Don't bully people.' divided me and my friends. Me and them, used to be WE. But now we are supposed to be united!? It's hard to view myself as connected to other students, but I do. My friend Frankie, is just one of my girl buddies. Not anyone else. He wants to marry Mike? Great! I'll plan the wedding! We are not divided! We are the same really."
"Being gay isn't a choice.You are born that way. It's a very beautiful thing."
"If you were to fall in love with a person, and want to spend the rest of your life with them, you should be able to. You cannot choose who you fall in love with. If you're happy around them and they make you smile and you would risk anything to make them happy, I doubt you would care if that person was a girl or a boy. The only difference between a straight couple and a gay couple is the rest of the world's reaction, which seems incredibly sad to me. Every person has the right to the pursuit of happiness- if marrying someone the same sex as you guarantees you happiness, I think they should be allowed to do it."
"Gays are just like us they are humans and deserve what everyone else has. I don't care if it is against God's word because not everyone believes in God. I am Catholic and I very strongly believe that deserve a chance of happiness just like straight people or whatever kind of people. Because baby we were born this way."
"Same sex marriages should be legal because no one has the right to tell someone who they should or shouldn't marry, love, or be together with for the rest of their lives."
"Gay marriage should be legal. This isn't hurting anyone but the couples in love, and if you don't want to see it then don't look. This isn't a question about God or religion because of separation of church and state, this is a question about rights.We all have fought for our rights, The Civil Rights Movement, The Woman Suffrage Movement, et cetera. That list could go on for days, now it is time for same sex couples to have their rights too. How would you feel if society was flipped around where you were the minority and everyone around you was homosexual and you were being constantly denied your rights to be married to the love of your life? I would hope that you would fight for what you believe in. One has to step into the shoes of the enemy to understand why they believe in this.If you do want to bring religion into this then first ask yourself. Have I ever committed a sin? Have I had sex before marriage? Have I believed in God's words not blindly but actually knowing what the intent is? I'm sure that the majority wouldn't be able to say that they are truly pure. Now think again to why you would want to deny a couple the right to be married. Age: 15"
"It is nobody's business who is in love with who. Exspecially if you dont get to know them. Christians are the dominate gay haters, they read the bible then instantly hate gay people, just because of a book. Alot a heterosexuals dont take marriage seriously, then a divorse happens. Gay partners go through hardships together which creates a better bond, therefore better marriages."
"You'd be surprised as far as the majority of gay haters, how many of them are in the closet. They are taught to hate gays, because of teaching from pastors, and preachers who say they should hate them.Divorces happen, because people realize that they weren't compatible, but gays divorce also. What's so bad about divorce?You're right, it is nobody's business who is in love with who, unless they brag about it. But as far as that one goes, to each their own."
"Love is love. there shouldnt be any restrictions. thats discrimination for the modern world. one of the definitions of marriage is that the married couple should be able to produce children. the hell with that! we have to many people on the earth anyway. and if they want children why not adopt?"
"You might want to rethink your statement about love being unrestricted. Do you believe that siblings should be allowed to have sexual relations? What about an underage girl and a middle-aged man?"
"if people are allowed to get married to the eiffel tower or a teddy bear or any other inanimate object, why can't a gay get married to someone they actually love? case closed. thank you and good day.spread the love, not the hate.<3"
"i see no issues with two humans of the same sex getting married. they should be able to be happy with the rest of america. Its not fair for us as straight individuals to be happy and with a spouse who we love, and they not be happy.."
"America is not built on religious theology. It was suppose to be a place where EVERYONE can practice their own beliefs and religion; you cannot force anyone to practice your religion. For a Buddhist, Christian values, the bible are nothing. For an Atheist, nothing. This country separates the church and state; you cannot stop gay marriages with arguments of religion. Some people are arguing that gay marriages should be stopped because they cannot produce children. Neither can infertile straight couples. And neither will straight couples who don't WANT children but CAN. What is the point of this argument when these straight couples won't be producing any children? Are we going to value people by what they CAN do? In that case, why not get rid of and kill all the disabled, the elderly, terminally ill patients, the mentally ill, the homeless, and everybody and anyone who can't be a potential benefit to society?Also to be quite frank, in general, taxpayers don't want to be taxpayers. Many people don't have children and these people believe that it is wrong for them to be paying taxes for education. If we could all pay taxes according to what we believe, this entire country can go down because nothing will ever get tax support."
"Y'all need to get a life. Why does it matter to you who people fall in love with. it doesn't effect you. and people who say that it goes against the bible, well God made them that way. if he didn't want them to be gay, then he would've made them strait. This is a free country. All Americans do is brag about all the rights we have. In reality, we aren't really that free. We still don't have all the rights we should have. government shouldn't be even doing things about this. They let strait people get married, but for some reason gay people are automatically looked down upon. The thing I don't understand is what problems gay marriage would cause for other people. This really frustrates me."
"Join the club. It doesn't matter to me, especially since I am in favor of same sex marriages, Cayt.People can't accept that, since they weren't asked, or are brainwashed by idiots who are bigger virgins and masturbators than they are. I wasn't attacking you in my response. I am a straight Athiest also.I don't support the cons on this one, or as I call them the antis, especially since I will bet 89-99% of them are closeted LGBT also, but don't want to admit it. They hate it, since they are not asked by someone since nobody would even give them a second glance. I was trying to offer you a different outlook, and maybe lessen the blow on what you felt, as far as the cons go.Sorry your friends are going through what they are having, it isn't their fault. I hope they find peace."
"This might be an amusing answer to your question, but it is because they didn't fall in love with the people who are against it. Besides, the antis think that the LGBT people will fall in love with them, and this is coming from a straight person and an Atheist. I was at one time against it, but later on, I started to break away from that mentality when I started to realize that the reasoning behind it was a bunch of crap and frivolous, not to mention that alot of people who are against it, are in the closet about their orientation, same as with the antis as far as abortion, prostitution, and all that. They secretly support it, but don't want to admit it. So, as far as the antis, we know the trut, and you are probably gay, or whatever have you, you just don't want to admit it. Either that, or follow group mentality, because you are spineless. It's that simple. So, Cayt, don't let it get to you, remember this those who are so against something publicly are the ones who support it privately. Hope this helps."
"Just an FYI, i am also a straight atheist. And I'm not afraid to admit my beliefs. Why should it matter to you if i was lesbian anyways. It just annoys me that people can't accept people for who they are and i am this way because some of my friends are going through the judgmental people right now. I DO NOT SUPPORT THE CONS AT ALL!!!! <3 SBF Abby"
"I am doing an essay in school about pros and cons. this is the website we chose to use. i feel that gay marriage has nothing to do with gender or religion. marriage is marriage. love is love. if a woman and a woman or a man and a man love each other, then let them be. they have nothing to do with your life. why interupt their life when you gain nothing from doing so? plus, the government cannot force a church to marry a gay couple. they can only control the state. so for all of the religions out there agaisnt gay marriage, (i'm sorry, people who say their religion is against gay marriage) the government cannot do anything to you. i think that religions do not hate them, or not like them, they fear them. they fear the unknown. human minds have to make sense of things. this is an example. now, stop discriminating agaisnt people. it is against the constitution. this is a FREE country, and they deserve to be FREE too!!! that is how this country was made. for religous frreedom. they have as much right has we do to marry. marriage is about LOVE. not race, ethnicity or gender. before you hate gays or dont like them, look up the facts. dont base it on religion. i, am not gay. i am just supporting them. because it is human nature to do so."
"If you support gay marriages then you have to also support polygamy and other unnatural things like incestural marriages.You can't pick and choose your perversions."
"Gay marriage should be aload they all have right's and it is going aginst the constitution. The meaning of love is; a strong passion and abmoration to another individual. If a male and another male or rather a female and another femal, feel this way towrds eachother then why cant they be together? people have rights and should be able to be with the one's they love."
"What about underage schoolgirls and thier married, middle-aged teachers? Should they be together because they think they're in love?"
"We should encourage people to form stable partnerships by legalizing gay marriage and end the discrimination against homosexuals."
""And we can promote world peace if we just go around hugging dictators". Easier said than done"
"I'm pro, because everyone should be able to choose what is going to make them happy in life. No one should be able to choose it for them, for any reason. It's as simple as that."
"i think that it should be legal and whoever says no is crazy se because everyone is their own person"
"If it makes themhappy why not? let them do what makes them happy instead of upset."
"At it's most basic, the issue of same-sex marriage is an issue of religion, and government, at state or federal level, should have no say in it."
"I believe that people should not be judged by who they are sexualy."
"Everyone has feelings and if two people of the same sex have feelings for each then it is not us to judge them for that.Gay marriages should be legal!"
"There is absolutely no reason that gay marriage should not be legalized. They deserve all the same rights as we do. Making it illegal for them to not get married is taking away their right to the 1st Amendment. And i personally don't see how that is really fair to them. If we are entitled to it, then they should be too. How would you feel if you were told you weren't allowed to marry the person you fell in love with, because it was illegal? Think about that and then decide how fair this stupid law really is. Fight to make Gay Marriage Legal in all states. They deserve to be with the one they love and express themselves just as much as we do."
"i say yeah! im all in for it cause im 17 and its not fair why should we not be allowed to marry?! straight couples do they arent any didffrent from us we have all the right to marry and if they dont let us marry so they shuldnt let other people marry as well we deserve a part in this world we deserve too and final it doesnt matter if they say its against religion its wrong they say everyone is equal then so it shall be"
"Love should be equal for all people. If they don't accept gay marriage, well they dont have to get married to a person of the same sex. Gay people dont go around saying its not ok for a man and woman to get married, and neither should they."
"i personally think that everyone have their GOD giving rights to love anyone they want no matter the race gender or religon . like where do people come off trying to tell people how to live their lifess , all i gotta say is grow the fucc up and mind your business . like seriously only they have to own up to what they did when the time comes at the gate not you . soo why caree ?? it doesent effect yu in anyway !!"
"Same sex marriage should be legalized because everyone have their own personal decision on who and how they want to love . imean who do you think yu are dictating someones love life , like seriously grow up !!"
"enything is possible now a days and this is just one more example and im straight and i have no prblem when i see a gay cuple in fact i give them props when they dont care what people think becuse not many people do that because they care what others say and also my moms friend is gay and lives with his partner n he iven got a sex change and i still dont see nothing wrong with it asloong as she happy right? =)"
"I feel that if someone in this country is bound to paying the same taxes as a heterosexual couple then they have the right to marry whom they consider their life partner. Otherwise, if the people are so against it then cut the Homosexuals some slack on the amount of taxes paid to keep this country going. Personally I think that all homosexuals should go to another country where they are supported and pay taxes there, having that country flourish just like all the neighborhoods that homosexuals take over. They bring value to the area and then sell it off for more money to heterosexuals."
"There isnt anything wrong with being gay it isnt a choice its what you truly are noyone will force anyone to be gay. Most of the time people become gay due to rape or bullying which is something that needs to stop bullying is a big controversial issue in this state. Same sex marriage should be legalized everyone has the right to marry who they love. For example if u were straight and you could never marry your lover wouldnt that bother you too you would do the exactly same thing the other gay protestants are doing. If gay mariages are legal all over the world there will always be love and peace too go around maybe less crime all gays are trying to show you can marry anyone you love man or woman. This might interfere with the constitutional rights but the constitution does say that all the people have rights and liberty. Which means that same sex marriage can be legal and should be due to the process of law. Gay marriages will be legal it will make a change in this world its just the peoples choice to accept this change."
""spread the love around the world convince others to legalize same sex marriage it will be a real big economic change that everyone should accept LOVE AND PEACE SPREAD THE JOY"
"so just because a homosexual couple doesn't have the ability to procreate means that they shouldn't get married? what about infertile heterosexual couples who don't have the ability to procreate? I guess they can't get married either then!"
"exactly , its discrimination . andd should NOT be allowed ."
"im yes im 16 and Bi and a black male and listen if u luv someone regardless of the sex you not should be allowed, but have the right to get married"
"I just don't get why its not allowed, like what does it do to you?"
"Most anti-GM groups are either hiding behind their bibles or afraid of other sexual groups trying to get marriage rights"
"I think gay marriage is fine because if somebody wants to get married to who they like then they should have the freedom to. Remember, the United States is a FREE country"
"Why does it matter what someone else does?If gays and lesbians want to marry, let them. It's not going to kill anyone."
"Many protests against gay marriage are based on religion. I, as an atheist, have no problem with it. I have an open mind and close friends who are gay. If you love someone, you love someone. Just because they're your gender doesn't mean it's wrong. It's not fair to shoot someone down just because you're different. If the human race wasn't smart enough to overcome things like this, we would still have slaves. It's fundamentally the same thing. If you're different, you must be wrong. NO. If you are different, you're brave enough to stand out. La Vie Boheme!"
"Yes, it should be legal everywhere because it is a violation of our basic rights as in the Declaration of Independence for Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness. Also, gay couples do not automatically have or raise gay children as in the case of Zach Wahls in Iowa. I am bisexual and my own children came out straight so it in no way affected them."
"It shouldnt matter to anyone because its not their decision to make for someone else. It is denying people of the same sex the right to express themselves and it is making them feel as though they are different and they shouldnt be alive and what not. PRO SAME SEX MARRIAGE"
"Why should the government be able to tell two people who love each other that they can not get married? It's crazy that this is even involved in political matters. When it comes down to it those overzealous Christians need to realize they can't have control over everyone's lives. Just because you don;t like it doesn't make it wrong. They are people too. Whether you agree with it or not doesn't matter. It doesn't effect anyone but the two people involved and the children they adopt."
"Homosexual union is a hot topic in our society, however, it shouldn't be. A great many religious people will tell you that such a thing is against their diety. That is fine for that religiousn, but not for a philisophical or political debate. Ours is a society that beleived in seperation of church and state, that means any argument involving a diety or dieties of any kind is fundamentally irrelivent.Arguments have also been proposed that allowing same sex marriage would open the door to unions of humans to non-sentient animals or inanimate objects. Slippery slopes asside marriage certificates need to be signed, something dogs and trees cannot do.Underneath all this postering and filibustering, the issuse is really money, as in most cases. Marriage allows for certain tax breakes and time off for the care of a loved one.If it cannot hurt an individual or group in any way other than affecting membership, there should be no laws for or against it."
"I'm pro because I believe that evey one should be treated equal. How has the right to tell you who you shouldn't love? No one does! You cant help who you are. Every one is their own person. Yes, the bible says that it is not right but how do we know who really wrote the bible? Anyone today alive back then? I dont think so, some person could have wrote it as a normal book, we will never know the truth. It shouldn't matter about what you are, it should matter about how you carry yourself. Love is love no one should stop it."
"Yes, because i strongly believe that love has no gender."
"The only reason the government is against gay marriage is because they are still thinking about the old days where marriage was more of a political decision. Now-a-days, we see marriage to be the only way to show someone how much we love them. Two females or two males who are in love, may be more in love than a heterosexual couple. You are who you are, and you love who you love. Why should what you have in between your legs make it any different? If two people love eachother, then let them be."
"marriage was never a political decision"
"i think that if you love someone it shouldn't matter what gender that other person is as long as ya'll are happy."
"I think that gay marriage is fine. I really don't care what they do together as long as they love each other the same as straight couples would. It's not your life so you shouldn't be so hypocritical about there lives. They are causing no harm to our society. I understand the bible says it's not right. But, it's there life."
"I have seen no theological argument that adequately applies to the issue. Every argument I have heard, from a Christian perspective, is lacking the inclusion of God as the third party to the covenant of marriage. Since atheists are allow to "marry," the theological argument against gay marriage fails from the societal perspective of granting legal rights. If we allow atheist to marry, we must allow gays to marry. Or will would we be willing to additionally revoke the marriage status of every atheist or atheist couple?"
"omigod you're smart thank you for the extra facts to add to my rants to my classmates :)"
"Everyone should have the right to marry."
"I think God wants us to be happy. If that means marrying a guy if you're a guy, then go ahead. God wouldn't put us on this earth just to be miserable. He made us to love, and love doesn't discriminate."
"Reply to June:Many older marriages don't produce children. And some people choose not to have children. Should those people be allowed to marry?Just because gay marriage is not described in the Bible doesn't mean it doesn't exist. And the first recorded gay marriages were in the Roman times.How does same-sex marriage go against nature? Did nature write a book I have never read?Not all gay couples are promiscuous. Maybe the ones you have witnessed, but do not let a few instances force a conclusion upon the rest. Just because some people are ignorant does not make me think everyone is ignorant."
"some people cant have children they cant help it or choose it"
"Everybody has the right of life, liberty and the pursuit of Happines. This is in the United States Declaration of Independence and considered by some as part of one of the most well crafted, influential sentences in the history of the English language"
"I am Pro Gay Marriage because every person deserves the right to freedom and choice to marriage. By telling me that I cant live my life like those whom walk this country everyday because a personality trait and choice is wrong. It denies me the rights freedoms that I have personally fought for in the military to have and keep. I served in the military in hopes that serving and for this country that I respect and love. That the individuals I helped keep from harm and protected the freedom and rights of would allow me, my own. Its against the constitution, religion, and freedom to deny gay individuals the right to marriage or any right for that matter."
"yes. give us the right to do right to be with whom we chose to love an want to be with . trying to fit us in the mold that other tell us to be with the oppisite sex.,is not allowing us r rights. its not honest to be pushed and manipalated to be married to oppisite sex to find yourselfs divoricing because we have no rights to b true to ourselfs and others."
"it's a human right to be able to marry the one you love. at least in my eyes it is."
"There are far, far worse things done in this world than two people in love who desire to marry. You say tradition is man and woman? Tradition used to be, man owns land, man owns slaves. Tradition used to mean that all a woman was good for was breeding and raising children; that children should be seen and not heard. Tradition used to mean the youngest daughter can't get married to take care of parents. Royal inbreeding, caste systems. Tradition meant women hanged for being different accused of witchcraft. It meant conquer and kill. Man is above woman. The church using their influence to kill for profit. It meant that you could never be more than your father had been. The eldest had to marry before the others could. Only a boy inherits the property and title. Human sacrifice to the gods was tradition. That a young girl marries an older, much older man chosen by family for money. Some of these still happen. Yet instead of questioning those you choose to deny something that has nothing to do with you."
"Any person should have the ability to marry if they wish. What other people think doesn't matter. If you are against homosexual union because of your religious beliefs, or other personal beliefs, it shouldn't and doesn't affect how two people choose to live their lives. Frankly, it's none of your business! Everybody should have the right to be happy, and whether devoting your life to your church makes you happy, or being married to someone of the same sex makes you happy, or not being married at all makes you happy, it's still your right, and no one should be allowed to take that away from you. You can choose to live your life the way you want, so let others choose the way they want to live."
"I am 16 and have been raised in a family where I have two moms. I can say that I have a good family, my moms have been together for more than 12 years now and rarely fight as to "normal" parents fight all the time. My family is constantly being judged,teased and mocked because we are not natural according to the bible. I have nothing against the bible I love reading it but come on, there are several things in there that are not natural. some examples; raining for so long there has to be an arc, Moses parting the ocean so he can save his people. My point is, people who are against people like my moms that mock and tease us (even my sister and me,even though we both are strait) learn that they are just in love and are only trying to get the rights they deserve. Same gender marriage should be legalized to get the same benefits that "normal" marriages get. don't be ignorant. don't mock my family, we didn't do anything wrong. thank you for your time if you have read this."
"Gay marriage should be legal because it shouldn't matter who marries who. If a woman loves another woman, or if a man loves another man, who cares? That's love. Nobody should get in between that decision. Homosexuals rare being discriminated way too much. By being a 13 year old member of the LGBT community, I believe that gay marriage should automatically be legal due to common sense. To the people who say God is against homosexuals, you're wrong. In case you didnt know, God loves everyone. Nobody who they love. So get that thought of ''God hates homosexuals'' out of your head. I hate constantly hearing that. Every human being has a right to do almost whatever he or she may do. Just like non- homosexual individuals are allowed to marry whoever they choose, why cant homosexuals? Why dont you homophobics open YOUR eyes and look at your actions. God doesnt like his children judging. Dont judge unless you want to be judged. It's not disgusting, its not gross, it's normal. Who cares? Unless you love the person they're getting married to, you need to calm down and get over your anger issue. Not trying to be mean, but you should really understand what the LGBT community goes through. Just understand. Love whoever you love."
"Because love is love!"
"If a man loves a man, so be it. If a woman loves a woman, so be it. Gay marriage does not get any more complicated than love."
"I'm pro because I'm bisexual, and I believe everyone has the right to love, and to confirm that love through marriage."
"Jesus said everyone should be loved. If two gay people love each other than that is classified under everyone being love. It's as simple as that"
"He also said this, directly in a situation where a woman was caught in a compromising act. He said, "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. After the mob of men dropped their stones He then said, "woman, where are your accusers? Go, and sin no more." Please tell about the whole Jesus, not just the part that suits your comment. Yes we should love them, gays and lesbians. Love them into the church, through the scriptures and into repentance and on to eternal life. Only then are we ready to love God, the Christ and the Holy Ghost. Amen."
"I'm support gay marriage because if 2 people love each other than they should be able to be together. There's more reasons to allow it then not too."
"Marriage is about love, not gender"
"While I do believe that homosexuality is wrong, I do not see the logic in denying them a civil right to a union."
"Separation of church and state. Love is love. Gender doesn't matter. This discrimination is against our human rights. That's literally my whole argument. Go ahead, take shots at it."
"Seems the only argument the cons, or Antis as I like to call them, is religion. Hey, religion is a sham, number one. Number 2, it isn't your decision to tell someone who they can marry or not. What is the debate about anyway? Tow men or women want to get married, are they inviting you to the wedding? I doubt it. Are they asking you to marry them? No, and maybe that is why you people are so against it, since you weren't asked. And this is coming from a straight person. I mean, if straight marriage were outlawed, you people would be in an uproar, and demanding equality. That is what they want Just to have the same rights as the morons who are against it, saying it is a ficticious god's will Give me a break. Yeesh.Seven or Eight states approved of it, cons, and more will be, so you are fighting a losing batter, and it is safe to say, you will be mocked and your outdated mentalities, people will be laughing at you, as they already are. Get used to it, Antis, you're fighting a losing batte, and we pros are laughing at you"
"Okay, I wanted to say to the people over here that same sex marriages are already happening in quite a few states. To respond to one person who said would we like it if being called christianphobe was good, instead of homophobe, why not, right?Also, as far as the religious arguments, we all know religion is a sham, and an excuse to hate, whether it is gays or whoever. If two gays want to marry, so be it. Don't flatter yourselves, antis thinking they want you, and maybe that is why you are so bitter about it, or vehementally against it. And nobody is forcing their points of view on anyone, this is supposedly a message board to express opinions, right? Sure they get heated, but that is what happens, right?As far as same sex marriages go, what is the real reason behind the hate of it, outside of the ficticious religious garbage arguments? It's happening, and it will happen, so deal with it. Maybe it might be the only chances the antis have for getting married, once 85-98% come out of the closet."
"I believe gay marriage should definitely be legal. I'm not gay but my best friend is, I'm as straight as a wooden ruler. But doesn't it say in the bible to treat others with respect and to treat others the way that you want to be treated and not to judge people?"
"It is amazing at the anti gay marriage people that the only subtle argument, according to them is the stupid religion argument. Come on, people! It is stupid and ridiculous, and on some levels, almost laughable that people would be stupid enough to say such things, because I bet alot of the antis are closeted LGBT, and ashamed of who they are, or because they know no member of the same gender, let alone the opposite want them, and they want to spread their bitterness. Truth of the matter is, if a person is gay, they are gay, period, and nothing you do can change them. Who cares about the traditional marriages anyway, they end in divorce. States are allowing LGBT to either marry, or live in civil unions, so get used to it, antis, it's already happening, and there isn't anything you, or your piece of garbage hatred can do that is going to change that. As far as the religious arguments, try a non religious one if you want to sound like you have a shred of intelligence, because gay people are going to marry, and this is coming from a straight person. So, quite the anti LGBT crap, because by doing this, you are only going to make people side with them, instead of you. End of story"
"gsy marriage is not harming anyone, they need to mind there own business and realize that the divorce rate for heterosexual couples is nearly 50% if not more! so maybe straight people should not be allowed to get married. just a thoght. This is how all drama and fights begin because people wana nose there way into others lives when they have no right to do so. The world will not be destroyed because a couple of the same sex chooses to be together. we need to stop making them feel alienated becasue they are human beings too."
"gay marrige is harming the production of children, everyone....."
"I have a friend who is gay, and it hurts me to see how discriminated people at my school are against him. Many people don't know him, and they don't know what his personality is like or how kind he is to everyone he meets. I hear kids whisper things as he walks by in the hall, and it just breaks my heart. I am glad to know that many people do accept gays and lesbians, though. Everyone has rights, and people should be more respectful of them."
"Please, those who are against gay marriage, keep your personal,old fashion, and inferior religion out of my constitution. Religion is the primary reason the world is so broken. What happened during the early 20th century...? Woman were see less than important compared to marriage, African Americans were seen less than human in and especially "the bible belt..." you call yourselves Religious??? Who are you kidding...divorce rates are at an all time high, teen agers are having children when they cannot even properly rear and support their children...your telling me that a couple such as this can marry??? Yet a perfectly well educated, stable gay couple, with well paying jobs that are a hell of a lot more capable of raising a child can't...? This is bull crap. It all comes down to what your little book called "the bible" is telling you, brain washing society into comparing homosexuals to perverts and rapists...how dare you and your religion disrespect a class of normal human beings. And to say that this will open up doors to adults marrying children and animals are you kidding me? How sick are you people to ever think of such a thing...Marriage is between two adults that are in madly in love regardless of what your bible says."
"Joey, thank you for saying it so plainly and so well. I like how you expose the hypocrisy of endorsing marriage for dummies while rejecting marriage for stable, loving adults. Religion is clearly THE problem in this debate. Why would organized religion alienate so many people when it desperately needs more recruits?"
"No no no!! Religion is not the issue! Religion is something interpreted by man, who is imperfect, about God, who no man can even come close to! The horrible things done throughout history IN THE NAME OF RELIGION were done by people because they are imperfect, greedy, and self-centered. No where in the Bible did Jesus instruct anyone to do any of those things! If everyone on this earth lived their lives the way God instructed, we wouldn't need laws or moral training. But just because you see someone else doing something immoral doesn't mean it is okay for you to ask society to accept something you do that is immoral also! For example, I am pretty low-income. I see that someone just robbed a bank the next town over and didn't get caught, so I'm going to do the same thing. If I get caught, I expect the judge not to prosecute me because someone else got away with it. THAT is completely flawed logic, is it not? Two wrongs don't make a right is what I guess I'm trying to say. Just because there are poor examples of married couples doesn't mean we can change the definition of what IS. We MUST have standards in a society. No one should be hurt or discriminated against but we can't change the definition of something by wishing!"
"God says Gay love is wrong. love is love, so god is wrong"
"You have the right to choose whoever you want to be with."
"Because people should be able to do whatever they want!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -__-"
"I want to date a beautiful movie starlet with an hourglass figure. How come no-one's fighting for me?"
"yes, they deserve the same rights as everyone else, there is nothing wrong with gay couple. they don't want to be like that."
"Love is love, who are we to take that from them??"
"the constitution says that Americans have the right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness. if you're gay and you want to marry a gay person you are pursuing your happiness. and you should have the liberty to do so. the government is also taking your right to life if they take your rights to liberty and the pursuit to happiness if the make same sex marriages illegal. so haters back off!!"
"As a post operative transsexual, I defy anyone to give me a bullet proof definaition of Male and Female that covers 100% of humanity. If you can't define it, you can't legislate it, logically. Most persons don't consider that sex has a genetic and developmental componet and can sometimes make fools of us all. What would you say to a person with a XY sex chromosome (so they should look male) set but has a vagina, brests, no beard ..Cases such as this arise from androgen incsensitivity to chromosone translocation, where the sex determining portion of the chromosome has been lost. So would this person marry a male or female? Is genetics the criteria, or apperaence. See the point?Conversley in the literature we have an XX sex chromosome (female) set but we have a androgen excess. This person will look male may have a clitoris that is unusually large may have a beard or deep voice.OK my point is this: variantion in human populations occurs over a wide range. As time goes on, we will know more about these plus varaitions and neurological differences and how they affect sexuality."
"everyone shuld be able to find love."
"yes!!!!! us abbys are sooo right!"
"Marriage can be between anyone!!!!!!"
"That's true. There is a thing called wanting to be with someone. The old marriage to have children bit was done from the beginning of time, which is a bunch of crap. There are straight couples who don't want children, and gay couples who do. As far as society being messed up because of it, I doubt that. I wonder where those morons who get that idea from, what is their source. They probably listened to idiots who believe a book of lies who tells them that marriage is for only man and woman. That again is a bunch of cull crap. I say, let whoever wants to be married, let them do so. We have the right to be whoever we want. Hey, to those who are against it, nobody's inviting you to a gay wedding, or a straight one. Personally speaking, I hate weddings, but I don't mind if people get married, and who cares if it messes people up that gays can get married, more BS and nonsense. We were messed up long before that. The antis just want to push stupidity on us. I bet half of them wish they could come out of the closet, but are too ashamed to, and would like to marry their lovers, but conform to stupidity. End of story on my part at least."
"gay marriage should be aloud because it is discrimination against homosexuals to not allow them to get married. and it's not a choice, so it's not as easy as telling a gay that they should just choose not to be homosexual."
"Gay marriage should be legal. It's innocent and causes no harm whatsoever. If two people love each other they should get marriage same sex or opposite. people cant change how the feel. if you think they are twisted for feeling that way then your twisted. They are still human! and if you wont be friends with someone because they are gay then you are an ignorant person because you dont know if they are good people or not. you're judging on stupidity. open your mind dont be so isolated in your thoughts."
"Marriage is and always has been two people in a committed relationship. Notice I didn't say anything about gender. Children have nothing to do with marriage unless that couple decide to have children."
"Who cares what other people do? Know the saying, MYOB, DO IT! Two people getting married is NONE of your buisness!!! God loves Adam and Steve more than Adam and Eve anyway!!! Get over your selves and stop being a bunch of homophobics! Two gay people DOESNT AFFECT your life what so ever!"
"not only is someone elses sexual prefrences NOT hurting anyone, but wasn't this country built on equality of man? And if government and church seperation is the question, then why is the word god still in our pledge?"
"Marriage is the state, condition, or relationship of being married; wedlock. It does say in the dictionary that it is a joining of man and woman, but it also has gay marriage in there too. I blieve, along with some other peoples, that everyone has the right to be with who they wish to spend their lives with."
"Yes, it should be legal. Who is it affecting? No one! So why stop people from being with who they want to be with? Gays deserve every right that a straight American has. Marriage is one of them. They are Americans, too, and should be treeated as such."
"We need to learn to live and let live and to not force the values of one cultural group onto other groups. Ours is a pluralistic world and DOMA seeks homogeneity. Arguments for a slippery slope to beastiality, polygamy and polyamory are fallacious and without any significant evidence. However there is evidence that DOMA does not benefit anyone and instead causes harm by marginalizing groups of people as sub-citizens and therefore should be eliminated."
"The main reason why people don't believe in gay/same sex marriage is because of the bible. The bible says that marriage is a man and a women being married not a man and a man or a women and a women. The bible also says to not kill people and not to have sec before marriage. So tell me this why do we pick and chose which rules/laws to follow out of the bible. The people in the army that kill people everyday don't get punished for going against the rule/law of not killing people so why do gay people get treated badly for loving someone. Its not their fault they fell in love with someone of the same sex. Love is love no matter what. In some sates its legal to marry your cousin and be able to marry under the age 18, but same sex marriage can't even be allowed because what the bible says."
"To prohibit same-sex marriage would in turn deny homosexuals their right to "the pursuit of happiness," which is stated in the Declaration of Independence. "...all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness." It states in the Declaration of Independence that all people are given the right to the pursuit of happiness by their Creator, otherwise known as God. Therefore, not only are homosexuals denied their rights as stated by the founding fathers by not being able to marry someone of the same sex, they are also being denied the rights that were given to them by their Creator. And as all good Christians should know, all people were created in God's image, including the homosexuals. Also, remember, it wasn't too long ago when the U.S. was denying African-Americans their rights that were explicitly laid out by the founding fathers. We were able to move past differences in skin color, so why should differences in sexual orientation be any different?"
"It should definitely be allowed ! I've felt this way since i was a little child, i always saw it but in no way did it make ME a lesbian, it's not a disease, so why are people scared their children will become gay. If you allow your kids to let two female dolls hold hands and two male dolls kiss why cant you let it happen in real life? The way i see it, it's not your life, so what's it to you. Most people against it let a lot of things slide why not let gay marriage slide? Also, studies have shown that you can not chose if you want to be gay, bi or straight, it's something that your genes and hormones decided for you when you were in the uterus. With that , I stand by gay marriage, let them be, go do your thing."
"I think that if you find the right one then you should be happy with whoever whether it be a woman or a man . its your life live it abundantly"
"Everyone has the right to equality. The constitution itself reads something similar. If I single handedly could change the prejudice and stigma against gays I would, however we need to stand as a wall, hand in hand, to change it together. Gay, straight, lesbian, bisexual, or transgender. Hand in hand is how we stood against every war, now it's time to fight this war inside the hearts of America. We need to fix what people have broken."
"im pro because it is a persons right to live their live the way that they wish. in my opinion people dont choose their sexuallity. A persons sexual preference is their own and they have the right to express it in any way that they wish. if it was against god then he wouldnt have allowed a humans brain to react in that way."
"you cannot help who you fall in love with. Leave people alone and concentrate on the bigger issues that this world has"
"Don't change my constitution, and I won't change your Bible. Coexistence!"
"It's not in the Constitution. In fact, thirty-some states have constitutional amendments defining marriage as one man and one woman. So if you want it legal, you would have to change a lot of state constitutions."
"I believe that gay marriages are no different than traditional marriages between the opposite sex. They both want to stay with the person they love, and this is how you show it to the public. Homosexuals should have the same right as everyone else, just because they like the same sex? Wow thats something new? Hopefully you caught that sarcasm."
"who in the world does the government think they are taking away peoples rights? FOR ANYTHING. even marraige. i dont care who it is to. it is their right."
"Marriage isn't a right. If you had bothered to actually READ this article.."
"all the religious haters out there can get together and talk about how bad it is to be gay all they want. the thing that bugs me is that it works and somehow our country lets them win. first of all, god doesnt exist so stop listening to some book (the bible) that was written thousands of years ago by a bunch of random people that new virtually nothing about the world around them. Since they didnt know anything and couldnt explain anything, they made up some story of there being a "god" that magically created everything. Second of all, why should you care if other people of the same sex are getting married. IT DOESNT CONCERN YOU. let them be happy"
"Separation of church and state dictates that gays must have the right to marriage. No matter who it offends of who's beliefs it goes against. Two men or two women or a man and a chair getting married does not impede on your rights. therefore gay marriage is protected by the constitution."
"because people have rights to love, it isn't important if they have same sex or not."
"If gay marriage wan't ok then why would God let us even be attracted to eachother? So clearly it's ok if know one is dead from marrying another man or a women. People who say it's not ok are weak minded. THink of the person that your words are cutting. I love my girlfriend point black period. :)"
"I believe in same sex marriage because "we the people have the right to form a more perfect union." How I love should not effect you!"
"No one can tell you that you can't be happy. No one not should tell you who to marry. The law is here to protect us not discriminate us."
"yes it shuld be legal, people should be able too have their own choice of who they want to marry"
"Thank you for saying that."
"I'm PRO because same-sex marriages don't hinder or obstruct anyone else in anyway. There is no reason for them to not be able to get married at all. They should be able to enjoy the same rights as opposite-sex couples. Its bigoted and just down right dumb to say that they can't enjoy these rights, unless your goal is to create a fascist like society in which rights are selective on the societies peoples."
"I am a Christian currently living with a lesbian. I'm trying to build the bridge between Christians and her community. I've done much to educate myself about their culture, their hurts and their life. This is a neutral comment neither for or against. I think Christians are fighting the wrong battle. We should be building bridges of love not walls of hate."
"I have a question , who is this hurting? I don't feel hurt."
"This absoutely *is* a civil rights issue. LGBT people continue to be treated as second class citizens as long as they don't have the right to marry.And no, gay marriage does NOT infringe on religious rights. Nobody is forcing a relgious objector to have a gay marriage, to perform a gay marriage, or even to LOOK at a gay married person. Just get over it. Live your own lives, and let gay people live theirs -- as FIRST class citizens."
"The first amendment gives us the right to practice any religion and believe anything we want. So the Con argument using the Bible or God as a reason against gay marriage should be invalid by law.That's the law."
"Gay Marriage should be legal because people should be allowed to marry whoever they love."
"Agh! Just let them marry and get their benefits. It's not fair to deny them their rights as US citizens."
"im pro because its no-ones business"
"The only reason why people do not like the idea is because they assume they, themselves, will have to be married to the same sex. It's NOT their decision on who marries who, but the people in love's decision. It doesn't hurt anyone--you just don't like the idea of it."
"Same-sex marriage should be legalized because, although there are many arguments against it, it is the right thing to do. Same-sex couples have all the right to marry, and the government cannot keep them from loving each other, so why keep them from marrying? Although civil unions are thought of as a replacement, they do not provide the same rights as marriage. Way back when, two people of different races could not get married. Although I was not alive then, I would of been sitting there, writing a letter to the president, insisting interracial marriage be legalized. Well, It was legalized and look at the world now, it is much more close, and relationships are stronger. Same-sex couples love each other just a much as interracial couples love each other, and they can get married, so why cant same sex couples? Some say "its against the bible", etc. Well, not everyone believes what is in the bible. This nation was built around religious freedom, NOT Christianity. Furthermore, the bible also states that divorce and tattoos, among other things, are not okay, yet today in society they are much excepted. Finally, same-sex marriage is a serious topic that needs to be legalized, to make this country, and world, a better place."
"I'm pro for many reasons. First off, using your religious beliefs as an excuse to ban gay marriage is forcing someone else to abide by your religious guidelines. Being a country of free religion, this is 100% illegal. Second of all, the fact that marriage is defined by law as 'a man and a woman' does not change the fact that definitions change as to fit the needs of society. We can just as well make marriage the binding of any two people by law.Third of all, just because they cannot biologically produce a child does not mean they should not be able to marry. Many straight couples marry with no desire to have kids, and even more are barren or infertile, but we still let them marry with the hopes of adopting children. There are a lot of kids out there in the foster system looking for a loving family. Also, there are many children out there with only one parent, and they turn out fine, so that settles the 'it takes a mother and a father to raise a healthy child' argument.I respect that other people have different opinions about this, but I don't respect that they make others share and abide by their beliefs."
"I'm Pro because the country built on freedom should not decide who has the right to legally celebrate their love."
"If we are a predominantly Christian nation (yet allow OTHER people with DIFFERENT views/morals/religions) then why is the government getting their panties in a bunch when a civil right that goes against Christianity is asked for? The laws this country goes by can NOT be dictated by religion. Everyone in this country is NOT CHRISTIAN. SO if you wanna go by what the Bible says, then everyone who isn't Christian shouldn't even be allowed in the country, period. Don't pick & choose when you want to follow through on Scripture."
"I think gay marriage should be legal because it shouldn't matter if i guy marries a guy or a woman marries a woman it just matters if they love each other."
"if your not gay.. then why do you care?"
"I am a Christian and I do believe in God. However, I don't understand why it's wrong to be married to the same gender. Yes, the Bible says its a sin, but why? We can't control our feelings, especially when falling in love. So if you fall in love with someone the same gender as you, and you can't control it, it's still a sin? I don't understand that.."
"There is nothing wrong with being gay. We have the right to marry who we want. Why shouldn't same sex couples."
"Don't like gay marriage? you know what you should do, don't marry a gay person."
"we discriminated against race and sex and now against sexuallity? i thought we were a free country? a country that we could be ourselves wether it be glbt. its not our fault who we fall in love with and our country would be lying if when they say we are a free country cause were not if youo dont let us love who we want!"
"Gay couples actually tend to keep their shit together in relationships, especially marriage. Gay parents have children because they want them, unlike straight unplanned pregnancy, which can result in abortion or adoption. I don't know why people don't want gay marriage to be legal because what flaws are there? How does it negatively affect society? It doesn't."
"It should be legal in all states. We are all human, and are all equal no matter what out sexual orientation is. Love is love guys, no matter what. Do you see homosexual's going about and leading hetero's to kill themselves? I think not. We are allowed, and given the right to pursue happiness, and it makes them happy. It makes ME happy. Okay. I get it, we all have opinions. We aren't forcing you to like the same sex, or even to like the people that do. WE DESERVE THE RIGHT TO LOVE. Let me say this: I am arguing with people triple my age about how WE THE PEOPLE ARE ALL EQUAL. WE ARE ALL HUMAN- AND CERTAINLY DESERVE THE RIGHT TO LOVE WHO WE WANT. Please, I respect the opinion of those who disagree, but I really don't think that it is necessary for them to get mad at us for the way we are. And seriously, stop the hate."
"I am pro because my mother has been with her partner for 15 years now, they have both raised my brother and myself to be two very intelligent kids. There relationship has not influenced me or my brother to be gay like most other Americans believe will happen. My moms have a right to marry each because they love each other dearly and deserve the pursuit of happiness."
"why not let gay/lesibians marry ? put yourself in their shoes what if somebody was telling you that you couldnt marry the person you wanted to be with ? its the same thing. everybody needs to drop this whole big thing about gays not being able to marry..."
"Marriage is not a religious right, it is a civil contract issued by a court. Also, the nation cannot conduct laws solely on religious grounds: that is against the First Amendment (Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion,...). America isn't a theocracy and no one's religion should inflict in anyone else's life. I also believe it is blasphemous to conduct God our Lord as hating any person for something no one can alter. Believing God throws gay people to the fires is showing only that you believe they should be.I hope that any person loving another should not be condemned for it, but embraced, and that their partnership is allowed to be recognized by the government even if the public refuses to. God bless the US."
"God does not hate gay people but their gay choice. It is a sin like any other sin such as adultery. If the person decides to live in this sin then they can't stand before God as justified and will end up in hell except they repent and trust in Christ. Look i'm a sinner and without trusting in Christ and repenting I won't make into heaven either. If you don't believe that God deals with sin in this manner then explain why He flooded the world in Noah's day, why He destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah, and why Jesus had to die on the cross for sins. Homosexuality is a choice and can be changed, for there are many gays that become straight"
"What is so bad about 2 men or 2 women getting married? if they are happy that should be all that matters. let them be happy! they aren't causing you any harm, but you are harming them. they are people too. so why not let them be married like me and you? times are changing and its time to get with the 21st century, gay marriage is bound to happen. it is their choice and you shouldn't be pushing against them if they don't bother you. let them live the way they choose too."
"God is clear about cutting off your hand if you sin with it (Matt 5;30) your feet if you (Matt 18;8) and your eye if you sin with it ( Matt 18;9) But very rarely do you see Christians with one arm, one leg or one eye. Yet many of us sin with them."
"If two people wish to marry and love each other they should be allowed to. I do believe that human beings have 3 unalienable rights,life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. If being married makes someone happy then who is the government to deny it from them."
"Be not in the pursuit of injury: do whatever thou desireFor in our religious law, save this, a sin is none..."
"I'm straight but I think gay marriage should be legal. Because if you really love someone no matter what the sex is you should marry them. You hear everyone saying GOD doesn't approve. Well GOD didn't make you love someone it just happens when you meet the right one. My mom has a friend who like girls and she has been with men, and she has 4 kids with him but their not together because they fell out of love. Now she's with a woman that she really loves and cares about."
"I think what troubles me most about this particular page is that my civil rights are up for debate. We're not debating whether or not America should go to war with Iran or some sort of policy here. We're debating a minority group's opportunity for equal protection under the law. Honestly, it's a little barbaric. I can't avoid thinking about people in the south debating whether or not African-American children should be allowed to got to school with white children. Just like segregationists of old, people will eventually end up on the wrong side of history. While I'm here, I have to say that after skimming the con comments, I can't seem to find any that don't involve religion on some level. It looks to me like your religious beliefs infringe on my right to equal protection, forcing a religion on me that I didn't choose. That's why the government will NEVER force your church to marry me, and also why I'll NEVER be at your church for Sunday service."
"Love is love, how would you like it if it were reversed? People saying that you couldn't be with the person you loved because of your gender. It's 2012, marriage isn't a heterosexual privilege, it's a human right. Gay people are just that, PEOPLE. When you see someone you don't judge them upon who they sleep with, you judge them upon the person they are. And if they are in love, they should have every right to marry who they love. Love shouldn't be considered a privilege, it should be considered as a God given right, because it is. So many LGBT people kill themselves per year because they feel like second class citizens. Well they aren't, they are people just like you and I. It's not fair that people want to restrict them from having the same rights to love as a heterosexual person has. You can't help who you fall in love with, you should be able to marry the person you love. Even if that person is the same sex as you are. Wasn't it like this so many years ago when it was said that different races couldn't marry? We all know that it is absurd to restrict different races to marry each other. It's also absurd to restrict two people of the same sex from marrying. Besides, you fall in love with a person, not a specific gender."
"I am a pro because people should be able to do what they want and not get judged or hated against. Gays and Lesbians are still humans and should be treated that way no matter if they choose to date a person of the same sex. I feel that gays and lesbians are looked as creatures and not apart of our society. I also believe that banning Gay and Lesbian marriage is prohibing those from freedom. There are hundreds and thousands of people that are being bullied and killed just because of their sexuality and its not fair. Why should people care if someone likes the same sex, it's not there buisness. No one can tell you who to like, or date, you should do as your please. Just do what makes you happy."
"the resin why im pro is because gay marriage is not hurting anyone. and well it is unconstitutional to deny any one to marrie"
"People should be able to marry who ever they want. If you know someone that's close to you and against gay marriage ask them "If I was gay what would you do?""
"I believe that people should have a say in what they do. They shouldn't be told who they can and can't be with. If a guy is happy with another guy, or a girl is happy with another girl we shouldn't stop that. That is why we have this thing called freedom!"
"This Nation was founded on the ideal that all men [women] are created equal.The LGBT community should have the same rights to marraige as their fellow heterosexual citizens."
"I'm pro because I'm gay. I struggled with it for a long time and denied it. I tried to change myself and I tried to make the feelings go away because it's not the "norm" and where I live, people are incredibly mean if you aren't normal. I would like to be able to get married someday. I don't know if my father will walk me down the aisle or if my mother will like my girl, but I am who I am and I don't want to have to go to another state or country to get married; I want to stay right here. I have protested for my own rights and hope to have someone to fight for their rights sometime soon. If we fight together, we can get same-sex marriage to be legal."
"People should be allowed to be in love with whoever they would like. We should all be allowed to love whomver we love, even if they are a man or a woman!"
"The question of Same-Sex marriage is not of whether or not it is moral or whether or not it is religiously accepted, it is a question (at least in America) of whether or not it goes against our constitution. The answer to this question is; it does, and n numerous places as seen in Judge Walkers decision on proposition 8. Therefore it is illegal to put a ban on same-sex marriage between two consenting adults that are citizens of the country (ie no toasters or animal marriages) And for all of the religious fanatics out there, believe it or not, the church doesn'