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"I am personally for same-sex marriage, but I also think that Religion shouldn't be used to argue against same-sex marriage, It's probably one of the worst things you can use. Don't you guys think it's convenient that people never mention how there was a time when religion was used to justify discriminating against blacks, ban interracial marriage, and restrict the rights of women. In fact, I could pull a quote from the bible that can be used to say that women are the property of their husbands. Yet as these views changed over time to fit with societies views, and the same thing will probably happen with gay marriage."
"Separation of church and state"
"@ KEn M,Re: you claim: "I always argue against same sex marriage based on secular ideals like equality and discrimination."That's odd since arguing AGAINST equal marriage is arguing against equality and FOR discrimination.I'd have that looked at if I were you."
"What you estimate as a big advantage from the official introduction of gay marriage - that people are going get used to the imagination that men and women marry their own sex - I admit to be its biggest disadvantage:When Mary can merry not only Joseph, Samuel, Noah and Bill, but also her friends Nathalie, Sarah, Deborah, Sally, Sandra and Jessica, the competition to become her partner - in the eyes of the guys - will double in numbers and probably much more than double from the perspective of a man perceiving her familarity with her female friends, as long as she does not declare herself.In the consequence, compared to the actual state of heteronormativity, young heterosexual men will expect to have much fewer chances to establish a family. With this declining support of society, they will be less determined to merry and testify children.Concerning to anthropolgic studies, this subjectively perceived larger competition on the marriage market in the end will lower young mens motivation to engage in their education and to strife for a career. What for should they?"
"There is no place in the Bible that says that women are the property of their husbands. You have read the wrong book and are totally ignorant. The Bible also does NOT discriminate against blacks either."
"Please supply a reference to your assertion that religion has been used to justify discriminating against blacks. I am very familiar with the Bible, and I know of no scripture that justifies discriminating against blacks or interracial marriage."
"Non religious arguments against gay 'marriage'Society receives a return on its investment in traditional marriage because it produces the next generation (a necessity in any society), it raises the children in the best possible environment with a mother n father, those children have the greatest chance to grow up n b productive members of society where they can work n pay taxes which pay for roads, bridges, social security, defense, etc. The more children, the more contributions like taxes, the better society does. Heterosexual sex is healthy n has many benefits to husband n wife. Gay sex is harmful to the body physically, (hiv, anal cancer, physical trauma to the rectum) this leads to more money spent on health care, which is harmful to society. There r many more, I can keep going. Gay rights r not civil rights. Heck martin Luther King Jr would have been against gay marriage! He was a baptist minister!"
"thank you for the support on this subject."
"I agree! The Bible is useful when preaching to the choir, but carries very little weight with us non-believers. This is why I always argue against same sex marriage based on secular ideals like equality and discrimination."
"A child has a right to have a mother and a father! You people are taking that right away from that child! Shame on all of you!"
"I don't see why they can't get marriedI am 14 and I am gay and everyday in school I get called a f****t and I am treated like I am not even human But I have a question for you How am I any different?I go to school I eat food and I love peoplelove is love and just because I love girls and not guys doesn't mean I am strangeI don't care about the bibleJust becuse the bible has one or two verses in it that says it is wrong doesn't mean you have to listenWant to know what else the bible says?The bible supports slaverythe bible is sexistthe bible forbids you from eating seafood and hamthe bible says you can't get a divorcethe bible says you can't get rounded haircutsthe bible forbids women from helping their husbands in a fightthe bible forbids blended fabric which is what most clothes are made ofI bet you don't agree with at least one of those points so why do you use the bible as an excuseI am 14, Gay, and an American Citizen I HAVE RIGHTS!!!!"
"Of course you have the right to love who ever you want. But marriage is a instutution with a high cultural impact which should be protected from harm. It's like a highway on which pedestrians should not be allowed - otherwise the highway could no longer fulfill its function."
"Wonderful. That's poetry if I've ever seen it.Seriously. You should write motivational poetry. Because that is a speech that I want to hear being said with passion to an audience."
"you go baBAY yo right dude preach or someting"
"I love your speech man, even though I am Muslim and my religion says that it is completely wrong but I think this is emotions we can never control them . however, you are free live your life don't give a damn what people think , smile and go on , may god be on your side and protect you"
"I...I...have a rounded haircut. :-("
"You gotta fight! For your right! To MARRY! you are awesome and i dont understand why there is a controversy in the first place. Why someone elses love life has any effect on others i honestly dont get. You are amazing just the way you are!! So dint mind the haters and go for it girl!! :)"
"if u cant be in love with someone that is the same sex as u then y can u love ur mom or/and dad?!?!?!?!?!"
"Every one keeps skirting the issue, and just because you don't like what the bible says does not make it untrue, marriage is for a man and a woman only, is says so in Gods word (OUR CREATOR) you don't have a right to do what God has already said is wrong! 1 Corinthians 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, (HOMOSEXUAL) nor abusers of themselves with mankind,Leviticus 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind,(HOMOSEXUALITY) as with womankind: it is abomination.The bible is not an excuse, it is the truth, and you don't like the truth!"
"Yes you do have RIGHTS!! Even though you cant vote and do a lt of things until yu are 18. You have all the rights in the world. So called church going people that are closed mined would still have women doing what women do. But they dont understand that times have changed and ALL HUMANS haveTHE RIGHT TO MARRY WHOM EVER. I wounder how many closed minded people think that peole that love differtly can change who their are ment to be? Lets as them if the tides were changed and this as about stright people getting married would we be fighting over this issue? Let as the closed minded stright people what would yu do if our govermet told you you couldnt marry the person you love because you dont like the same gender? Would you put up a fight? If all that are married that you found out it was no longer married to that person you though you were? Maybe the goverment shouldnt let ANYONE BE MARRIED. Then what the HUMAN RACE DO? Lets think about that one for a second."
"Romans 1:24-27Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error."
"Re Mohamed: why are you dragging Santa into this? This is a gay rights discussion, not one for lunatics."
"to all the statements I have seen where they bring up the reason(s) God put us on this earth, I have this to say: Not only did God put us on this earth for [insert reason here], but he also put some of his followers on earth and reduced their IQ by 50% so that they could harass the other people left over."
"Its not about rights! Its not about God its about the definition of freakin Marriage no man can marry a man they can love another man but not marry them. all you ever do is blame rights and the bible but you logic on this is not reasonable."
"I am bisexual and I agree with you totally. I was wondering if i could quote you on this in my research paper. It touched me a lot. Ever since I have read this I cant stop thinking about it!!!!!"
"you are so right, i am 15 and living in Australia. and i get bullied about it but i know who my true friends are... stay strong, dont be afraid to show them what your made off."
"You stay strong! I am 13, and bisexual. I completely agree with you."
"Im not gay but I do support it but I also call myself a christian. You have to realize that the bible can be misinterpreted, in which you have. For example, God put animals on the earth for us to eat, in this instance he doesnt forbid you toeat ham or seafood...(Jesus did multiply fish for thousands of people to eat) I will not say youre disgusting and im not here to bully you like youre not human but you have to realize that it does say in the bible that what you are doing is wrong. This is why this subject matter is going to the supreme court because the U.S is based off a lot of the stuff in the bible."
"I am the same with you. I get bullied almost every day because I am 12 and bi. why do people treat us like we are not human?"
"you are so right i agree 100% except you shouldent really bring GOD AND THE BIBLE in this."
"You are scaring me guys. Don't you try to ho ho me. I am religious and it is wrong to have gay marriage! Do you want to end the human race?!"
"Yasssss u go girl I am bisexual"
"you are right"
"Thumbs up to you girl! :)"
"Im also 14 and I like what you have to say... :)"
"this way to much of an opinion because you say "I" to much. It should not be legal because god put us on this earth as men and women to be together. not men together and women togther."
"girl? have you even read the bible? what it says is FINALit dose not matter how many logical reasons you come up withit is still wrong, just like it dose not matter how many logical reasons you come up with, killing you is wrong, even thoughI have a desire to kill gays that is just as strong as a sexual desire. you wold call that homophobia and that is also a desire think should be allowed because I HAVE RIGHTS!"
"where does the Bible say that at all. get your facts straight. how is it sexiest. where does it say you cant where two diiferent types of clothing?"
"people act as if they only sin on gay marriage and its the end of the world. Well I'm sure everyone sins everyday it's life. You don't see us bothering you because of your sins."
"I think it's wonderful, let people be who they are and not be scared because of what society will say. If there happy then that's all that matters who are you to judge them? Let them live there life in love. It doesn't matter with who. People should worry about there own life's anyways and besides its a new generation now."
"Congress/Governments need to take out the word "religious right". The right for same sex marriage has nothing to do with religion, for religion was creator by the controllers as an excuse using God/Creator/Source for the right to control others through judging their actions and self-worth. Not all people who get married believe in religion."
"If gay marriage is a sin under your rules, why is it your problem if someone else does it? If two people across the street get married and are a happy family, how does it affect you? Maybe they already know that the Bible considers it a sin. Maybe they don't really mind. Different people have different rules. If you want to follow the Bible, that's great. Follow it to your heart's content. But don't try to make others go along with your rules. Think about it. As a kid, did you ever have a friend whose parents had house rules that were more strict than yours? Perhaps. Did they force you to obey their rules while you were in your own house? I certainly hope not.At any rate, I'm not trying to say religion is bad. It's great that you have faith that you'll still be around after you die. And it's great that you've got something that gives you hope, and something that tells you to be a good person. All I'm saying is that you don't need others around you to believe exactly what you do. You don't need them to follow your rules."
"It's not a matter of my rules. It's a matter of what is right and wrong, natural versus unnatural. Homosexual sex is not natural neither is gay marriage. It is the belief of unnatural thinking people who try to justify their perverted behavior. Yes there is a matter of religious rules and is a matter of what non religious people who feel the same. Hey those who do religion and those who don't are on the same page here! One does not have to have religious rules to oppose something as sick or as unnatural as gay sex. No one opposes relationships and love for another human being. It is the behavior involved and the gays call it marriage when the truth is not marriage. It's some kind of unity of persons but DON'T call it marriage because it isn't. It is a gross distortion of what marriage was always meant to be, the union of a man and a woman!"
"Some people have rules that it's ok to steal your money! Or kill you to get it. It's also against certain civil rules like being illegal to shout fire in a crowded theater, even though we have freedom of speech! Or to call in false emergencies, etc. It is a shame that our supreme court has passed gay marriage into law. It will be interesting to see how soon that law gets repealed, and also bad things happening like when gay married couples go for divorce! After all, that's how to get out of a marriage. Right? Wonder which woman or man will assume the role of head of household on their income tax forms? Wonder if this gay marriage thing turns out to be a fad when numerous gay married couples realize it's not what it's cracked up to be??"
"Becasue you are leaching off the backs of the hetrosexual community. you rely on the hetrosexual couples to poduce the stock from which you will choose to have relations with. you arenot creatign your own offspring?"
"Churches or groups of people who share a religious faith agree on a collection of ideas and concepts which is called their doctrine. It sounds like you are asking religious people to give up their right to share in a common agreed upon faith. Civil law has often found its source in prior religious doctrine. For instance, laws against murder originated from religious doctrine that unjustified killing of another human being is morally wrong. When the gay rights lobby gains enough political power to erase 5,000 years of cultural prohibition against homosexual marriage, then they will be forcing their beliefs on heterosexuals just as heterosexuals have up until recently denied marriage license to gays. It's all about political power."
"I think it is great, although there still will be some opposition in certain sectors, I can not wait until I get down on my knees and propose to my lover, my best friend"
"Absolutely yes. Homosexual couples are no different than heterosexual couples. They love, cherish, and embrace the value of monogamy just as much yet, because of irrational religious roots, only heterosexual couples practice the right to marriage. There really needs to be marriage equality regardless sexual orientation. Gay couples have rights and should be allowed to freely engage in the right to marriage."
"You could call it unity but not marriage. It's not marriage. Those who think it's marriage have a sickness of mind and are totally blind and those are not so blind as those who will not see. It's not totally a matter of religious ideas. It is something that is resisted by both religious and non religious people as un natural sex. No one is speaking about friendship but don't even call it marriage."
"I think gay marriage should be legal everywhere. whats wrong about people wanting to be happy. anyone can be gay, but being able to show your significant other without getting judged also feels better. people say population will decrease this this and that. but gay will not take over the world there will be plenty of male-female relations. what do people think adoption is for? same-sex couples can love, care and give the same affection, especially to a kid who's parents were not ready for them. being equally happy between all no matter who you choose to love is what should matter. love is love, and nothing should get in the way of that."
"omg yes it should legal whats the difference let people love who they want to love really!"
"I support same-sex rights for a few simple reasons. One: Because what people do and who they love is none of my business. For me to judge just destroys the part of being a good person.Two: The sanctity of marriage has more holes in it then a rotted piece of wood. If marriage was really sacred then divorce would not exist. But low and behold people divorce more often then ever before. Please reply to me why divorce is sacred but not same-sex marriage because I don't understand.Three: The fact that the only thing people have to back up there hate and disagreement for this subject is a book. Let that sink in for a second. You are using a book, that has been warped more times then ever, to give reason for being a d***. If you're mean and hateful to others and then think that all is forgiven because you're using something written down in a book then ask yourself this.If I didn't have this book what would I do different? If you never picked up a bible what would you do? Please send me a reply."
"Great questions! Unfortunately I'm not sure you're going to get a reply."
"im a gay young man and I think its should be allowed in any state because we are who we choose to be and not one person should be able to tell me or any one else for the matter that whom u love is right or wrong."
"You are gay by choice but think: "Even though you have your mother's features you still have your father's fixtures!" Or you could have them removed and do some breast implants!"
"Yes, I support Gay Marriage. I am 13 Years old and i'm wise enough to know that Gay Marriage won't do anything bad. Like ANYTHING. Because They Just want to be loved like heterosexual People. Its not Bad. First off there this argument where "OH its a sin in the bible". Guess How many sins in the bible there are 667. Which of course EVERYONE does EVERYDAY. Theirs one for doing astrology, wearing Polester, Getting divorced. Very Averge Things. So basically if anyone says that's a Argument. Their a Hypocrite. Second off People who think its not in natures Design for us. Look up on youtube right now "Bears having Gay oral sex" you will find it. Of course you will. Because Animals are becoming gay to. So really. If this is your argument Shut up. Plus the Argument that gay people want to take over America. Did you get that from fox news? Really if you watch fox news YOU have Ebola. Third off back to the bible because whatever. THe bible says to KILL gay people not disapprove and bully them get your facts Right for once Lev. 20:13, "If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their blood guiltness is upon them. I am Gay. Good Day-C"
"No. The first Amendment forbids the use of religion in legal decisions. This is not a viable argument. Stop it."
"bud first off let me say you are using old testament scripture only. old testament scripture was put down minus like the ten commandments by the new read the new and forget the old and get your facts stright"
"I only have one thing against what you said... "The bible says to Kill gay people"... oh noes."
"Let me have my say in this. Some of these 'comments' are a bit unintelligent. I am doing an essay, and this topic intrigues me to a very high level. why are we letting government men/women, decide who you love and can marry. Most of the information I gather always states that 'Marriage is between a man and a women.' That comes from the bible. What about the separation of church and state? I have many homosexual friends, and I'm glad my state doesn't have a ban. Those bans are unconstitutional, because you are taking rights away from people! We are ALL equal so why can't homosexual people have the same rights? Population is growing rapidly and you all worry about procreation? All those kids born are out of wedlock and to people who DON'T want them, what is wrong with a person who wants to love and care for a child, be that a man and a man, or a woman and a woman? It is no different."
"I believe all the comments that support gay same sex marriage are more that just a bit unintelligent. Face it. Same sex in not natural. It is an abomination. It stinks for the religious and the non religious persons. It's not a matter of just religious reasons. Man was born with equipment, women were born with equipment. So how do you plan to make babies?"
"Marriage has until this sick idea of same sex marriage came about was always normal union between a man and a woman. Otherwise it's perverted. It has nothing to do with equal rights. It has everything to do with what is normal!"
""A child needs a mother and a father." Then why are there divorced couples? The bible statement is also crap. We have disobeyed so many of the Bibles "rules" (eating seafood, clothes from different fabric, cutting hair, etc) so why are we only reinforcing the homosexual statement? Before you use the bible as an argument, actually read it. Also, people are people. They deserve everything, sometimes even more. The LGBT community already gets enough hate and disrespect. Homophobes (*shudder* I hate that word. You're not scared, you're just unaccepting) and other haters need to realize the world changes and you need to as well."
"It's quite evident that you are very ignorant of what is in the Bible. There are reasons why there are certain statements made in the Bible and that support eating seafood! Some of the followers of Christ were fishermen! l detest the very idea of same sex union that has nothing to do with respect for other human beings. It has to do with something unnatural like same sex."
""Why are we using the Bible as a rule maker? The idea of gay marriage (Or, more simply, just marriage) has become somewhat of a religious thing stemming from the bible, but the bible also forbids many things such as working on Sundays. As a bisexual woman, I consider it my right to get married to the person that I choose whether it be a man or woman. Same sex married is as much a right as heterosexual marriage.""
"What if it was switched. What if it was illegal to get married heterosexually? What if it was you who was told that you couldn't love who you want to like others do to people's opinions. Just think about that. #ByeHaters #ProLGBT"
"There's actually a video on YouTube tackling the subject of hetero/gay being switched around."
"Unfortunate for you it's just not that way! How else could we have babies unless each human being was equipped with both male and female sexual equipment so anytime they liked they could just go s.... themselves!"
"People should love freely. I live in America, and have been lead to believe that "All men are created equal" (and woman too) but that’' not true, gay marriage is still illegal in 31 states. I believe gay marriage should be legal for two reasons. Not everyone has to follow the laws of the bible because not everyone believes in them, and children are being adopted more frequently as a result.Gay marriage shouldn’t be illegal because the bible says "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it [is] abomination."(Leviticus 18:22) the bible also says "Everything in the waters that has not fins and scales is detestable to you."(Leviticus 11:12) and eating shrimp isn't illegal.If gay marriage is a sin to you, don't practice it, but don't judge the way of others if you haven't walked in their shoes. kids are being adopted more frequently as a result of gay marriage. 21,740 same sex couples adopted a child in 2009, up from 6,477 in 2000. This benefits the gay couples who are adopting them, and the children that are being adopted. The number of available parents lessens as gay marriage remains illegal. From an orphans perspective, they may have two choices: heterosexual parents, or no parents at all."
"I think that people have the right to do as they please. I am not gay, but I support those who are. When we talk about america being free, we are not completely because not everyone can get married to who they want to."
"America is free. We have the freedom to reverse the gay marriage as well. How do you plan to file taxes like who is going to be "head of household" and like who is in charge? Who is mom and who is dad when any adopted children should ask that question? Question is "Where did I come from?""
"As a bisexual 13-year old, I say you let us marry who we truly love. I know that kids are better with a mom and a dad but there are many couples out there who can care for those kids but they don't choose to. If I was to adopt a kid, I wouldn't care what anyone thought of me. I would go on with my life with a loveable child and a loveable wife or husband."
"Everyone deserves to be able to marry whoever they choose to. I'm a girl and I would love to marry a girl. I'm bi, but prefer girls. There is nothing wrong with that."
"I love how all of the "Christians" on here are JUDGING every single person. The one people that are supposed to listen to God, who told the world NOT to judge and to let Himself do the judging and to only love thy neighbor. You "Christians" are doing a worse job at following God than we are... Just saying..."
"And in the bible, didn't they say "Love Thy Neighbor"?Seriously, they are the reason I converted to being and Athiest. (Or however you spell it)"
"I argue that gay marriage should be legal. The reason why I support this argument is that everyone has right to love people. In here, love means not fallining in love with opposite people, but making happy relationship with anybody. Also, everybody deserves to be happy. For instance, 2 men or 2 women marries, and they say they are happy, who has the right to blame them? There is no right to say it is a bad thing to marry with same sex. No person has the authority to judge or tell you who/ what you should love. Therefore, because of these reasons, I strongly argue that gay marriage should be legalized to every state."
"I definitely support same-sex marriages. The reason why I support this is that everyone should have the right to be joined in marriage to the one person they love. Love doesn't mean falling in love with opposite sex, but saying being happy with someone. Everybody deserves to be happy. For instance, if 2 men or 2 women are in love and want to celebrate their committment to each other by marriage, who's right is it to judge them for it? Do we have rights to blame them? I don't think so. Because of this reason and others combined, I argue that gay marriage should be legalized in all states."
"Then why not exhibit respect for marriage and call it a union so as not to create confusion among especially the children. What will the children say? Who do they call mom or dad in a gay parenting situation?"
"My hairdresser was 13 when he realized he only liked girls as friends, and he got married last year after 20 years!"
"All states should legalize Gay Marriages...."
"It seems like that's what happened. Don't you read the news or only once every month or so??"
"Your bible may say that marriage combines a man and a woman, but mine says differently. My bible says, "Marriage unites one non-Christian person with one other non-Christian person." Gay people don't choose to be that way, and even if they did, that wouldn't make it okay to use religious beliefs to decide whether they can get married or not. After all, you choose to follow the Bible. But by my bible's rules, if you are Christian, you can't get married, and so you won't be able to form a family. Does that seem fair to you?"
"Okay, the way I put this was much too harsh. I have a different comment above that says what I mean in a way that seems way less attacking.Again, sorry if I've offended; I posted this late at night when I was pretty tired, and so I didn't really have a filter. There's nothing wrong with being Christian, or any other religion. My point simply was that you shouldn't make others follow your rules."
"In addition to my earlier argument, those who think that gay marriages should not be allowed because they produce no offspring are complete and utter idiots. What about people who are infertile? We still allow them to marry, even though they cannot produce children. And what about women who have gone through menopause? As you can see, that con argument is proved invalid. Then there is the slippery slope and religious arguments (homosexuality will lead to incest, it is against God, etc). It boggles my mind that people can be so stupid and myopic. I hope you remember that the human race was born from incest, according to the bible. And as for gay marriage promoting incest, how many people do you honestly know who support incest or polygamy here in the states? No one I know. Finally, it is our constitutional right to be allowed freedom of religion, therefore Christianity can still exist BUT no one has to conform to it. So the argument that it is considered wrong by Christianity and therefore should be forbidden is proven invalid. Other arguments (ie gay marriage undermines the definition of the term marriage and should therefore be stopped) have no real backing whatsoever. Just go look at them. Varan"
"Varan, I like your point. But I don't necessarily like the way you presented it. While I totally agree with you about gay marriage, I think that attacking people and deciding they are complete and utter idiots is a little unnecessary. People can have ideas that you find quite idiotic, but that doesn't mean the people themselves are idiotic people. Because if they're idiots, there's not even a point in arguing with them. If the people themselves are idiots, you can't fix any of it, so there'd be no point at all in you making your argument anyway.However, if their ideas are idiotic, but they themselves aren't idiots, you can still change things.At any rate, I'm sorry if I'm being a bit too picky. I just wanted to point out that while you may disagree with someone's ideas, it's still not necessary to personally attack them.Thanks,Sedruff"
"Why the hell are "religious views" being used as arguments? Separation of Church and State, people! Saying lgbt+ people can't marry because of "your religion" is like saying you can't have a cookie because I'm on a diet."
"Whoever wrote that comment is wrong.... Religious views are used because that is what the united states are based off of...hence the reason you see sayings such as "In God We Trust"... or "One nation under God...""
"Religous views" as you call it,are used because GOD created us,and,since we live in a sinful world,we make mistakes.Remember that God loves oyu but he doesnt approve on what you do,like,GAY MARRIAGE."
"Lets see1. Same-sex marriage is a civil right.2. Legalizing gay marriage will not harm the institution of marriage, and same-sex marriages may even be more stable than heterosexual marriages.3. Gay marriage legalization is correlated with lower divorce rates, while gay marriage bans are correlated with higher divorce rates.4. Many religious leaders and churches support gay marriage and say it is consistent with scripture. ( As many people have already said the bible is not something to be used against against gay marriage when I can use it against how people these days "disobey" it more than one and actually LIVE sinning it.)5. Denying some people the option to marry is discriminatory and creates a second class of citizens.6. The pledge of Allegiance: "liberty and justice for ALL" (Black, White, Gay, Straight, Depressed, Happy, Religious, Non-Religious, Boy, Girl, Tall, Short, Obese, Skinny, etc.) We ALL get "liberty" and "justice"!"
"1. Same sex marriage is NOT a civil right, SCOTUS made a mistake, pure and simple. And this will only force a bigger fight to make a US constitution change to keep SCOTUS from doing it again. Most sates voted for a ban by the majority, and the courts have tried to legislate form the bench.2. Same sex marriage is not more stable. same sex marriage does not create the blood bonds with children that parent have with their children the way a heterosexual relationship does.It does not correlate with lower divorce rates, evidence shows it is higher, because most are not recorded and most unions between gays is formed purely for the sexual urges.4. That is NOT true, they just keep silent or lie because of the pure HATE and ABUSE the LGBT people expound... 5. Well, not sure about calling them second class citizens, but they are not equal to heterosexual couples in the eyes of nature....6. You forgot a few groups like Murderers, pedophiles, rapists, to name a few, why are you now so selective with your choices???? If you try to claim that they violates laws which is why they don't count, may I remind you that gays violated state laws too."
"And many religious leaders and churches are Communist! You fools. Don't you know that part of the Communist Manifesto was to infiltrate the churches with atheists in order to pervert our country so that "America will fall like an over ripe fruit into our hands!" Communists!!"
"I was married to my husband for 24 years, a very rough marriage due to alcohol and drug problems for my husband. We had four beautiful children and I am sure they witnessed more than there share of heartache. I remember many nights not being able to sleep & crying and praying to God to please let me find real love and compassion and closeness for my family. In 2007 my prayers were answered I met my now wife of 6 years in which we had to travel to Mass. to marry. My prayers to God were answered my family is a family now. There is love and laughter and caring, my children, although they miss there father God rest his soul, who passed away in 2011 , love there 2nd mom and I feel so blessed to have found her. I was born and raised a Catholic and I strongly believe in God, and although I no longer attend mass because I don't feel accepted, I believe something so wonderful had to have been my prayers finally answered by God. Amen."
"Let me just say that I was adopted at the age of 8 by two lesbian women. I turned out fine. Before i was adopted, I was taught that being gay was wrong. Then i got adopted and realized that they are people, just like everyone else. They have the right to their own lifestyle, and if everybody would mind their own business, we wouldn't have this problem. I mean, so much for america the free when all America does is discriminate based on sex, race, and religion, which is exactly what we say we don't do. Its absolutely ridiculous to me. I have a very strong opinion on this matter, and I can go all day talking to you, probably end up telling you to just f*** off, but sadly i am limited to only 1250 characters. Either way, if your gay, lesbian, bi, or whatever, then you go ahead and strut it. Be proud of who you are. Be proud to be different.Because honestly, name two people who are the exact same? You cant. They dont exist. How can you judge someone for being an individual, for being unique, when you're no different yourself? Being normal, isnt normal. Thats all i have to say.A little bit about me:I'm 14.I'm female.And I dont care what you think. Everyone has rights. America is built on the foundation of equality. Respect that."
"Can I please have one con that doesn't involve procreation or religious beliefs?"
"Sure. Anyone who has observed two gay men kissing at a booth in a restaurant and both me and my girlfriend almost vomited at the sight. It just is not natural and plus it was obvious the guys were quite rude and continued this disgusting behavior as if they actually meant to provoke us. I was close to calling the manager but they decided to stop, and of course some other guys were not happy with their behavior. I wouldn't objected if some other guy gave both guys knuckle sandwiches!"
"On the Con side, Mr. Sprigg asks, "Does society need children? Do children need a mom and a dad?"Obviously, society does need children, otherwise the human species would die out. However, allowing homosexual couples to marry does not prevent heterosexual couples from marrying, so that point is moot.The more interesting point is that of the mom and dad. Obviously they are both required to *produce* a child, but there are many heterosexual "couples" who birth a child and then are unable to care for it for whatever reason.Thus we have the institution of adoption. I am adopted myself, and my adoptive mother never married. I was raised by my mother and aunt. Children do not *need* to be raised by two opposite-sex couples. Therefore, this point is moot as well."
"gay marriage has never been illegal so why bring it up now. i mean really it is their life so they should be able to make their own chose on what they want. right. some people are against it but it is there life not some body else's."
"Why not make drugs legal for them and let them OD and that would help fix them or make them realize that gay marriage is not what it's "cracked" up to be! When they OD on the stuff."
"In same sex marriages, who last name do the couples go by or use or do they keep their own last name? Just a little confused on this point."
"That can/is very confusing on income tax forms. Plus who claims head of household on the tax forms? That could mount up to a sizable argument that should have been resolved before these ignorant un naturals should have worked out before getting married. Quite an argument could happen over who is in charge! Whose last name do they use is a really good question too Freddie! Good point."
"Who will claim to be the head of household and on their income tax forms? Whose last name there? Or will the tax departments have to rewrite the tax forms?? Funny!! I'm actually laughing at that one! How should we address them? Can't we do Mr. and Mr. or can't do Mr. and Mrs. And how about the females? How would one address them? What if and when these couples adopt children? God forbid but how will the school officials handle this one? What? You say you've got two dads? Or two moms? Uh oh.What happens to the kids and what last name do they use? Hmmmmm!"
"Same sex marriage is no different than heterosexual marriage. Both types of relationships are built on love and trust. Both kinds of couples want to spend the rest of their lives together. To deny them a normal life is discrimination against a part of them THAT WILL NEVER CHANGE! Judging people for their sexuality is worse then judging them for their skin color or their religion."
"If it is not different then why can't same sex couples have babies????"
"I am completely for gay marriage!!!! Some say a Civil Union is more exceptable, but if they have the same rights as a "married" couple why not call it a marriage. This issue simply boils down to the fact that there is no longer a separation of Church and State. Social acceptance and religious acceptance are not to be influenced by each other. That is how our nation was originally founded."
"It's like taking away someones right to breathe. Why can't people just accept that people want to marry someone different? All these CON Arguements are sort of bull."
"my mother and father divorced when I was 4 years old, after that I was raised by 2 women. My mother and my grandmother. I am now 20 years old and finishing up college. Although I am not gay myself, I have very strong feelings for gay rights and think that it absolutely outrageous that it is still even an issue. If marriage is strictly for reproduction purpose, then we shouldn't allow a unfertile male or female to marry then. Marriage is between any 2 people who love each other. It doesn't have anything to do with anyone else but the couple, so who are you to tell them they have no rights? If it is a choice to be gay why are people killing themselves over it? How long are we going to allow this to happen? Some of the greatest people I know are gay! So for all of you on the CON side, ask yourself. Does gay marriage even have any impact on your life/marriage? Probably not. We are all human here and all deserve the same rights! it's 2014 people!"
"people can be happy stop worrying about them"
"People need to wake up and understand what has happened to them. Whether people are gay or not and want to be married isn't the problem. The fact that a group of people have made it illegal to marry without their permission is the real problem! In fact almost everything in the U.S. is illegal!"
"Ok listen gay marriage should be legal cuz that's your right to do what they want to do in there country if they wanna do that so do it no one can stop anyone from getting marriage it's like telling someone they can drink when there 21??? Like no."
"I think that the big problem here is that we in the United States have conflated two completely different concepts. The first is a civil contract that has to do with taxes, inheritance, medical care, and child care. There is absolutely no reason to deny any couple to engage in this type of contract. The second concept is that of a religious rite. Any religious organization should have the right to bestow or deny this rite to any specific couple. When my son got married in Italy, he and his bride first went to the City Hall where they were legally married. The following day the went to a church where they had a beautiful, but legally meaningless, ceremony."
"Yes, why wouldn't it"
"yes gay marriage should be legal , because love is love , no matter the sex. long as the person is happy , then everything else should be alright ."
"Equal Marriage Rights means Equal Marriage Rights. Every human should have Equal Marriage Rights. Anything other than Equal Marriage Rights is discrimination. It's really that simple. Point made. Period. 2014, Are we really still having this conversation??!!!"
"I think gay marriage should be the national law."
"gay people are still people and love each other the same"
"i believe that love has no gender and it has absolutely no effect on heterosexual marriages."
"There's a separation of church and state, as our founding fathers declared in the Constitution. That doctrine still applies to the present day. People shouldn't include "god hates this" and "they will go to hell" when they're talking about marriage."
"There nothing wrong with loving another person of the same sex"
"I am ALL for gay marriage , I am 16 y/o and I feel that Gay Marriage should be legal because for one .. I don't see this as committing a crime . All your doing is Marrying the person you love , we should all have a say so in Marrying who we want to marry!! Me and my girlfriend are what you call " in love " and even though my mother isn't all for it (us) it makes me want to cry , I want to say that Gay Marriage isn't wrong , same sex marriage is like any other marriage , I am not any different from any other human , I eat , sleep , shower , go to school , and wake up everyday just like EVERYONE else , we are all human and we all have feelings , so I don't see what the problem is ... but I hate that my mother always has something to say about the bible when it comes to me and my girlfriend , I know what the bible is saying but one thing I don't get is ... how are you going to the club turning up with your friends with a bottle and drinking? The Bible forbids you doing any of that , having sex before marriage is forbidden and she still did that , so I think she should just leave me be because I AM HAPPY DOING WHAT I AM DOING , I am 16 y/o , My name is Malayzia , I am proud the way I am .. I have the best girlfriend in the world :) ."
"The pros of legalizing gay marriage far outweigh the hypothetical cons.1. Economic boon to society. In the first year that New York City Marriage allowed for homosexual couples to marry, the city gained roughly 500 million in revenue from that year from gay marriage alone.2. Gay marriage leads to greater stability for such couples. Which might is great for the children and low amount of total pairings, slowing the spread of STIs.3. Homosexuals pairings are by no means a threat to marriage at all. Within the USA the states that allow for LGBT marriage also happen to have the lowest divorce rate, meanwhile the southeast states have the highest divorce rates in the entire country.4. Some religious leaders, including Native Americans, druids, quakers, episcopalians, temple satanists and rabbis feel like not allowing for gay marriage is an infringement on their religious freedom. As they aren't allowed to bless loving couples.5. The definition of marriage has changed quite a bit and even then, it varies from culture to culture. Not to mention gay marriage already existed in ancient Rome. Until it was abolished by the theodosian code, where existing couples were sentenced to death."
"I live in a very gay-accepting state, and most of my friends are LGBT+. I have openly said I was Bi and most people I knew were fine with it.I think it should be legal everywhere :D"
"Without the right to freedom of marriage, the United States Government and all of the states that uphold this condemnation would face the wrath of their own hypocrisy. Most religions have a common value: Treat others like you would want to be treated. And now look what they are doing! Being redundant to the last! Homosexual relationships do not affect politics, the definition of marriage, and, most importantly, should not be affecting the way people live their lives. We were garunteed almost all freedom when our forefathers wrote the Constitution, except one. Doesn't that seem to you a little off-balance?"
"I completely agree. Lately I've been in awe that people are able to take something that is meant to mean "Treat others as you would like them to treat you" and turn it into "Hate on ___ group".This is part of the reason that I became an atheist/agnostic. (I'm not saying that I'm SURE there's no god. There perfectly well could be. I'm just saying that I think it's a bit more likely that there isn't. Or at least that I don't think any one religion is any more right than all the rest)"
"I don't understand why people are so against same-sex marriage. Marriage is supposed to be a bonding of two individuals that love each other enough to pledge the rest of their lives together. I can only imagine how much love and faithfulness goes into that. So why does it matter if the two people are the same gender? They love each other as much as any other heterosexual couple. Even if the bible says it is morally wrong, guess what? Not everybody believes in Christianity. Some people don't even have a religion!Everybody deserves happiness. It is not a choice when it comes to sexual orientation. There is no question on why females are attracted to males and vise-versa, so what is the problem a girl looks at another girl the same way?Love is love."
"Your information is incorrect. The First gay couple to be married in Massachusetts was Robert Compton and David Wilson.All people have the right to be happy and choose the lifestyle they live. It is not for others to judge, they should spend their time thinking of ways to improve themselves and not trying to hurt others. God Loves us all equally."
"Constitution protection? Civil right protection? How is this still a debate in America"
"Being gay or lesbian or bisexual is natural and normal. Homosexuality is found in many species, homophobia is found only in humans. Basically, if you are against homosexuals, its the same thing as being racist. Do you really want to look like all those caucasian men and women not allowing people to have rights because they looked different? I think not. Also, it annoys me when people ask lgb people when they decided to be gay or bi.Well, when did they decide to be straight? Oh yeah, thats right. IT'S NOT A CHOICE. And lets be clear, if you quote the bible(i' agnostic but i have nothing against christianity except for the whole same-sex marriage thing ) you're basically reading from something that was written when people still had slaves and women didn't have many rights. Think about that for a minute."
"No body goes around saying eww, you like a boy but you are a girl. Yet people will go around saying eww, you like a boy but you are a boy. What really is the difference? It is a personal decision. No body should butt into someone else's privacy."
"Hiding in the closetI await to come out into a world where its ok to be meHiding in the closetWhere it is safe and warm, and no one can see me for who I really am.Hiding in the closetWhere I am truly alone, and no one can hear my cry for justice and equality Hiding in the closetI think I'll stay in hereHiding in the closet"
"*harvey milk* sorry"
"Burst down those closet doors once and for all, and stand up and start to fight.-Harvey Milk"
"As Henry Milk once said "If a bullet should enter my brain, let that bullet destroy every closet door.""
"people need to realize that same sex couples should get every single last benefit that a male and female couple does. for those that say god will not accept you well id like to believe that your wrong because isn't god suppose to be one who loves and accepts all that he created...I mean if you are a great person and your only sin is that you are gay then id like to believe that god will not deny you, also is it really anyone's business if two people of the same sex want to be together and love each other, I think not. I believe that if two people love each other no matter what the gender they should be able to be together and even get married and not catch hell for it ,point made"
"Everyone should have the right to marry anyone they want. As we grow up, we learn to always be accepting of others no matter how different. We learn that judging people is rude and not appropriate. Now we get on the subject of gay marriage and people don’t want to allow it, because it's not "normal". It's confusing to children when people say be yourself and then say you can't like the same sex. Amendment 14 states that people have the right to pursue happiness. Not only that, but the government will earn more money. If gay marriage was allowed in every state, more money will be spent on weddings, honeymoons, and children. Also, more children will be adopted. Since couples won't be able to have their own children more will be adopted and instead of kids having no one, they will be in a safe, happy home with loving parents. Imagine all the benefits that we can have if all the states allow gay marriage."
"its not about right its about the definition of marriage you can't change the definition of marriage."
"i feel that same sex marriage should be aloud do to true love and that different sex marriages are exactly the same as same sex marriage. its just the affection you show for one another and the relation between you two. all though you don't need a piece of paper to tell you that you are together it shows the commitment you have for one another."
"In my opinion I think gay marriage shouldn't be illegal. Everyone may be different on the outside but on the inside we are all the same."
"i believe Gay Marriage should be legal because we do not base our court cases off of the bible, so why should be base one law off of it? Name one reason why gay marriage ''is wrong'' and ''unconstitutional'' without using the Bible. We can't get in the way of other's pursuit of happiness and eqaulity like our preamble says. everyone has rights, you all need to respect them despite religous aspects. I am 14 years old and i know that if you can't respect people and you are closed minded you aren't goign to go anywhere"
"JosieI'm gay and im happy about it nothing will or can do to change that. I'm 16 and in high school. everyday i get made fun of because im gay. but i tell them to grow up. I'm just being me and i think that they should legalize gay marriage all around the world.Like what do i do to be different? I'm normal just like all the rest. I'm a lesbian. and proud of it. my fiance makes me the happiest person in the world. I'm an American citizen and lesbian. And how would non-gay people like it if we made fun of you because your not gay like us? How would you like it if we made fun of you because you think your cool and so called "popular" because you play sports or something? We are all human on this planet...why cant you see that?"
"I believe that every one gay Or not should be treat like you wanna be treat with love and kindness for they are people to for me all gay people are love by me and are people that love the same-sex"
"I personally dont see the big issue with gay marriage. If you're happy with someone, you should be able to be with them without be criticized."
"The government is here to protect our freedom tell me if I am wrong. Now tell how the gay marriage impedes on other peoples rights. So how does the government have the right to make laws to ban it."
"I think that we should allow gay marriage. many People think that only a man and woman should be married. SCREW THAT i totally support LGBT."
"yes!!!!!! I am a lesbian and I completely agree with gay marriage!!!"
"i have more than 1 friend that is bi-sexual and do i judge them because of it? NO I DO NOT!! You want to know why because its who they are and they should be able to be them. my best friends sister must be leave that she needs to hide the fact that shes a girl just so ppl woun't judge her for the fact that she is gay. so she dresses up like a boy, has a boy hair cut, & acts like a boy (sometimes only when there is ppl that dont know shes a girl). SHE SHOULDNT HAVE TO DO THAT!!"
"when 2 people love eachother they shoukd be able to get married, wether its same sex couples or man and women. i dont give a flying mudpie sbout what the bible says when was that thig even written? ok things have drastically changed in our society why cant gay couples not be able to marry change?"
"Why should religion be a reason to ban gay marriage? This country is not run or make its laws by religion! if it did, America would be classified as a Theocracy (a country run by a church), and not a Democratic Republic. Besides, even if your bible says gay marriage is wrong, then people can choose to follow it or not. You cannot force your religion upon other people. That is like me saying, you can't eat cookies because i'm on a diet. Gay marriage doesn't affect you and nobody should be able to ban people who love each other to get married!"
"After reading some of these it got me really thinking. Same genders should be able to get married! One they don't hurt the 'straights', if it was a sin God would have made 'gays' in the first place, also you can disagree with it while supporting it. What if one of your friends turned out gay? What if you knew them for years. What would you do cut them off and leave them to the side saying you don't care about them anymore? If so you are down right cold hearted."
"Screw religion. I'm a realist. This is America, you know home to the free and the brave. Freedom, and equality to all! Equality in homosexuality marriage is a right! It should not be banned in any state. Or divide the Gay marriage to the non gay marriage state! It'll be like the same thing back then when the united states divided states that banned slavery and states who accepted slavery! Where no better than back then, but this time it's with marriage that is none of our concern if homosexuals want to get married or not. It is not our choice it's theirs and banning gay marriages is idiotic for religious fools"
"Let them have freedom"
"If my two mom's tried to marry at a city hall and wasn't allowed because of what the controller believes what is in their best interest then why is it you are the controller. You obviously are a control freak yourself."
"Now that we are sequestered to marry same sex we can crawl out from underneath a rock and be petted?!"
"It will take time for any new right to be completely excepted. Government can't protect us from other people viewpoints. We can legally maintain or own ideals and beliefs. Be patient."
"I Support Gay Marriage Im Straight But , I Think Zack Efron Still Bomb"
"I definitely think that gay marriage should be legal in every state in our country. Not being able to marry someone you love goes against a big theme of America: Equality among all people. By placing limits on who people can or cannot love, you are putting limits on them as a whole. America should be a country where people should not be ashamed of who they feel attracted to. Whether you love someone of the same or different gender as yourself, all Americans are humans and deserve t be treated equally by each other."
"Gay marriage should be allowed. According to the constitution it states that people have the right to make their own choices. In 2012, President Obama made History when he told ABC News, "I think same- sax couples should be able to get married." Since he is the president that the United States people have chosen then, then people need to respect that."
"Gay marriage should be legalized. How would you feel if you couldn't be with the one you love? Yes, same sex marriages could be against your religion, but then again how much better does it make you to judge someone for their human rights? One of three trials of gay marriage began on October 10, 1972 with Baker V. Nelson. Baker declined the trial. California became the first state to pass a marriage bill. Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger allowed marriage in California to pass, but not all. In most states, same-sex marriage is allowed but may not be allowed the same that applies in opposite gender marriage. It may be against your religion to be okay with gay marriage, but yet does it make you any better to judge peoples rights for being happy? If they are happy being together, if it isn't physically hurting you. Then who are you to make the decision on whether or not gay marriage should be allowed in our country. In 2015, 35 states are passed to have legal marriage, as many more to come."
"Oh, and for those who say it's "unnatural."Did you know male lions are most likely to be homosexual? So it's sort of bull when you all say it's unnatural.Also, not everyone believes in God if you haven't noticed. So you are taking away the first amendment, giving us a right to believe in what we want. If we believe homosexuality is good, then let it be. Also, didn't God himself say "Love Thy Neighbor" Or something like that? I mean come on! If you guys were true Christians you would actually understand that! But no, your heads are way to far up your butts to even see the light of day."
"Gay Marriage should be legal no matter where you are as it is the right to be equal. They say that tax payers shouldnt pay for something they dont believe in, then i dont want my money to go to people on centerlink. people should just grow up and except that there will be a change. Love should hold no boundaries."
"There is nothing wrong with gay marriages, the only differences between them and us is our preference in gender. It's wrong to throw religion at a person who's sexual preference is different. People tell gays that its against God's will and people think it'll justify stuff but it doesn't. Nothing we say to gays will change how they feel. Take a look at the bible, we disregard everything in there and the only thing we look down upon is same sex love. We're all the same. We eat, they eat. We drink, they drink. We sleep, they sleep. Who are we to tell them who they can and cannot love? We need to learn to stay out of eachother's love life because it doesn't concern us."
"Infringement on people's constitutional rights as human beings IS WRONG! If two consenting adults regardless of sex decide to marry it is their constitutional right to be recognized and protected in the eyes of the law. Discrimination, intolerance, and ignorance are not defenses against gay marriage."
"Let Gay people marry its not wrong its what they want to do so lets let them be who they want to be and do what they want to do. Why should we say no tho this I agree to let same sex marrige happen"
"Gay marriage is not going to happen. It must."
"we're all human here. One great thing about today's society was that we got to marry who we wanted to. But it's not fair to separate people by who they love. Having one family be of the same sex parents isn't going to effect the different sex family across the street. There's nothing wrong with gayness, and don't pull that bible crap either. In the bible, yes, it may be against gays, but it also says it's a sin just as bad to get a divorce, and yet people are just fine with that.Don't discriminate others just because they're not like you. There's no such thing as 'normal' in our world because every single person is different."
"i am straight but i support gay marriage like no other. we fought so hard to all have equal rights yet some people still cant get married that stupid. love is love. If you are gay and you are reading this then my message to you is ''fight on, and i love you''."
"To me this doesn't even need an argument, anyone with half a brain should be able to see that this is a simple matter of a) no one else's business and b) people who are treated like second class citizens looking for equality. The fact that things like this (and climate change) are debatable subjects in society today is really discouraging."
"If my religious beliefs consider marraige to be the union of two people that love each other, why does someone elses religion get to take precedence over mine. No church owns the word marraige, nor the right to decide if my relationship is more or less valuable than anyone elses."
"yes it should legal"
"same sex couples should be allowed to publicly celebrate their comitment human right foundation claims that same sex couples want the right to legally marry and honor their relationship"
"Marriage equality, is a human right, are we still stuck in the the ways of racism, prejudice, and interracial relationships, or bias on your color of skin, your religious beliefs, your gender, and sexual preference or sexual orientation, all of this is discrimination or classification and segregation of some form. It us un acceptabel . It should be a human right to marry who you love no matter the shape, size , hair color, skin color. or gender or sexual orientation or preference. we have feeling and all bleed red blood. So to me a commitment/ partnership/ domestic partner/ lover or friend what ever your commitment is to the one you love , should not be determined by a law or government or any one or anything else but your heart. I AM IN FAVOR OF MARRIAGE EQUALITY."
"Same-sex marriage should be allowed because the only reason people do not support it is because it doesn't appeal to them and its against their beliefs supposedly. But what those people don't understand is that these couples love each other the same way a man and a woman does, t hey just happen to be the same sex. People say that it shouldn't be allowed because they cannot have children but these same-sex couples can adopted children whose straight parents didn't want them. Also, people don't like it because it offends them. Well just because something offends you doesn't mean you have to be apart of it.These same-sex couples are not going to invite you to their wedding. People who dislike the idea of same-sex marriages simply do not like their own lives and feel the need to control someone else's but that is unfair. Religious beliefs should not influence the laws. It should be separated. Same-sex couples should be treated no differently than straight couples."
"I just want to married the love of my life. Without no one telling what I can and can't do. move to va a few months after she ask the question and that made me the happiest in the world and now i'm being told that I have to keep waiting to make our family whole thats not fear and it's not right."
"yes because people should be allowed to marry who they want because it s their life!!!"
"everybody have the right to be live a happy life."
"Just as suggestion- as a more informed text, the title of this article should be changed to same-sex Marriage - Pros and Cons. If we are really discussing the full scope of debates surrounding homosexuality and the appropriate vernacular used"
"Same sex Marriage is as right as any marriage as marriage is what it is andyou cant help who you fall in love with but anyone should be allowed to marry who they want and when they want and how it should be legal cause putting it out there I am too"
"Saying that two people of the same sex can not be both a father and a mother is unfounded. Girls without dads become promiscuous because their mothers date one man after another trying to find a suitable father for the girl. And men can give advice just like women. It doesn't take a psychologist to realize that those who oppose it are acting under years of brainwash and social influence, and that under different circumstances they could have chosen the Rainbow Path as well."
"What I remain so curious about is how exactly same-sex marriages hurt our society? Noone can ever explain that. Since my marriage is recognized federally, we now pay more in taxes. That seems like a good thing.My wife and I have been together for 22 years. That's a lot longer than most marriages in my generation. That seems like a good thing.We have a home that is paid for, and that's a good thing.I have a law degree and a 32-year career, and that's a good thing.My wife and I are very active in our church (which is mainstream but accepting) and that's a good thing.I don't think we're harming anyone, and I suggest we actually contribute to the values of commitment to spouse, society and God."
"Yes any human that is of age should be to be able marriage as long athey are in total agrement. And not been forced into. I do not see why the stright people have an issues about it. It isnt like they are going to marry th same sex. Their isnt anythhing in our laws books that say no human can be married. I really dont see the harm in the same sex marriage. The stright people that dont have open minds have rights in this matter. And the the god people out there that is judging you have no right to judge people because you ae commiting a crme by your GOD think about one! So if people what to do something that they want in this world are stupid people like the ones that are in office to help the people get whast tey want then why do you do that as long as it is hurting anyone. And same sex marriage isnt hurting anyone! The gay people are going anywhere they are here to stay! So when will the e seen as people? This could classife as a hate crime because people hate to see this take place It is a mental hate crime in my eyes. People have to fight for somethhing that should be already in hand for them to have."
"@ Ken M.,Re: "I merely do not want to use our group money to reward marriages that are not likely to produce children."And yet you do precisely that. As does every other taxpayer. Because we are ALL part of that "group".You keep typing, "I, as a taxpayer, have to pay for those benefits." but ignore that we are ALL taxpayers."
"Justice, You say that anyone who is of age should be allowed to marry. Does this include siblings and first cousins? You say that "there isn't anything in our law books that say no human can be married," but there are restrictions on same sex marriage, sibling marriage, and child marriage. You complain about the GOD people judging you, but I am not a GOD person. I am agnostic. I am not judging you, I merely do not want to use our group money to reward marriages that are not likely to produce children. You say same sex marriage isn't hurting anyone. I disagree. When our tax dollars are used to fund marriage benefits, I, as a taxpayer, have to pay for those benefits. This is a cost to me. Therefore, I have standing to legally oppose same sex marriage. It hurts me monetarily."
"Marriage IS a right and it is wrong to restrict that right to only men and women."
"I think that all people should be happy and there would be less suicides and more love to go around!and as far as the bible it was a made up story that is what I believe if it was true the truth would have come out already!plus gay marriage does not effect your straight marriage and people need to let go of the crap they were told to think and think for themselves!"
"yes thats right"
"For over 15 years I've had "significant other" benefits in the workplace. That was not anywhere near as controversial. Why? The label. Instead of using the word spouse, implying a traditional marital arrangement, new terminology was adopted. Ancient Rome and other societies used multiple labels to signify different types of unions. Why do we have to limit ourselves to a single word that has so much tradition and emotion attached to it? When I got married, I had to submit my state form to be united under the state and have ceremonies in two separate religions so both would recognize my marriage. Why can't we just give the state union a new label and allow each religion to define their own rules for their form of marriage? Each religion could decide if they want to require a state union or not, so you could have a state union and one or more religious unions, just a state union, or even just a religious union without a state union. I am not Catholic, nor is my wife. We were not married in the Catholic religion. Our marriage is not recognized as a Catholic marriage. What I propose is not really a change in anything, except the labels being used. Having a single label for what is really multiple things has made everything confusing."
"HaPa,You, like way too many others, have confused the terminology. The "state union" is called civil marriage. The "church union" is called "the rite of holy matrimony". Your "church marriages" are not marriages, and the religious ritual(s) performed in those churches - by themselves - do NOT grant you "the effects that flow from marriage".NOI performance of ANY religious ritual makes a couple legally married- anywhere in the US. (You could look this up. I did.)Sorry, but it seems that it is ONLY religionists who make this mistake."
"although the fight continues i'm holding on strongly to what i believe is right and will always know that nobody can take away the most joyful thing in any persons life."
"Legalize same sex marriage should be allowed. It amazes me when the politicians use the bible to restrict us from doing what they say is unpopular. But deny us the right to pray in schools. They use the bible when it suits them."
"I think Gay Marriage should be legalized. I mean every one has the right to love who ever they wish to love. Have you ever been loved think about it.... how would you like it if people said you can't marry that special someone? I don't think you would like it. That's how Gay People feel, they feel insecure of whom to love in this world that is So not fair. How would you like it if somebody said something because of who you love or demanded that you can't love that person. Would you just go with it or stick up for yourselves? I believe Gays should Be able to marry one another. WHO'S WITH ME????? (SOrry for saying Gays)"
"Every reason given ultimately conflates natural law with Christianity and has been used to prevent interracial marriages or interreligious marriages in the past. Gay marriage is the last bastion of the Christian missionaries who set out so long ago to shape the world in their own image with proselytization, crusades, inquisition and every other overt or covert method at their disposal. Take religion out of it and none of the arguments have a leg to stand on. If it was not natural, then homosexuality would not exist in nature. If marriage is all about having couples and then childless couples out to have marriages annulled. If living with a parent who has no biological relationship with the child is so debilitating in situations where surrogates are used, then how can children living with step parents, adopted parents or foster parents are in the same boat. The one and only reason is religion, that's all."
"The argument that gays do not reproduce is invalid because there are plenty of straight couples that choose not to have children. And, gay couples adopt orphans. And, God made Gays, Lesbians, Bisexuals, and trans genders. I believe that he did this to teach us how to coexist and except everyone how they are. Love is love and if someone can find someone they love to help them get through this rough life, then let them. And, if someone needs to change their gender to be happy, then let them. God told us to love everyone. Just as we love mentally handicapped people, we need to love Gays, Lesbians, Trans-Genders, and Bisexuals just the same."
"this is dumb it is one ones right to say who can love and how they can love let the LGBT do what ever the "straights"get to"
"People can't choose to be born gay or straight, they just are. If two people love each other, why can't they get married? If you say "because of my religion" or "because god said so" no. According to the bible the wife is supposed to be stoned after a divorce, but I don't see that happening, do you? You are trying to control people's lives, a part of their lives thy have no control over. If let's say you loved basketball, but you had no talent, is it wrong to say you can't play? Because that is what people are trying to do with gay marriage."
"People should be able to marry whoever they want. Marriage should be an unalienable right."
"I vote to legalize gay marriage because who someone else is marrying has nothing to do with me. If the people in our country would mind their own business then we might not have as many problems as we do."
"@ Ken M (once again),You type: "The more benefits we give to people, the more I have to pay in taxes." while ignoring that we ALL pay taxes, which conversely means that the more heterosexuals that marry, the more GAY folk have to pay in taxes.A little consistency might help your 'cause'."
"ShaNautica, I disagree with your statement that who someone else is marrying has nothing to do with me. People want a marriage certificate in order to get the monetary benefits of marriage. those benefits are paid for with our group tax dollars. The more benefits we give to people, the more I have to pay in taxes. This is how same sex marriage affect me. Gay people are allowed to love anyone they want, live with anyone, and have sex with anyone they want. I support these things because they cost me nothing. A marriage certificate does cost me (tax) money. This is why I have standing, or a legal reason to complain against who receives a marriage certificate."
"I am for gay marriage because people need to understand that not everybody cares about what "god" thinks. Just because you are Christian doesn't mean that everybody else has to be. If you don't like it, don't do it. The first amendment says that everyone has freedom of religion. Therefore, you can't control them. Deal with it."
"I think gay marriage should be legal because everyone should be treated equally. Also, it is wrong to discriminate against, not only race, but a persons views and way of life as well."
"The Constitution of the United States decrees "all men are created equal". Men, women, black, white, gay, straight....we are all equal under the laws of the US. This religious discrimination should have ended decades ago. Shame on the proponents of religious oppression for keeping these antiquated laws alive."
"Besides, religion has no place in our laws. Denying people basic rights because your religion teaches you to discriminate is something that should be considered a sin. Love thy neighbor doesn't mean that you should treat your neighbors unjustly. Homosexuality is not a sin, and the sin of Sodom was not homosexuality but rather rape and in-hospitality. Cherry picking the bible so that it suits your bigotry is not a moral pursuit."
"Same-sex marriage is fine, and I think everyone should just leave the gay and lesbian families alone."
"Gay marriage is something that should be decided on by the two lovers, not something the Government wants them to think. Not supporting same-sex marriage is okay, but that doesn't mean that you have to make a big deal about it. Leave the lovers alone. I, myself, am bisexual. Does that make my friends and family love me any less? No, it doesn't.Please take my words to heart. I hope to have a wonderful life, and I don't want haters to ruin it. I have a loving boyfriend, and want to have a girlfriend too. Again, this doesn't mean I am evil or wrong or messed up. Just let the lovers love!"
"i am pro because everybody deserves the chase to be with who they love and to commit just like a man and woman can. just because two people love each other of the same sex does not mean their love is not real. everybody deserves the chance to be happy. I do not understand how some people can be so rude to people. gay people can not help who they love."
"@ Ken M,Re: "We give marriage benefits to promote child-birth."We give them to the infertile as well as the fecund.Get a better argument."
"We do not give marriage benefits because people are in love. We have lovers that are not married, and married people who are not in love. We give marriage benefits to promote child-birth. Opposite sex couples have more children on average than same sex couples or single people. This is why we have marriage in the first place."
"My opinion on this issue is a little bit biased, as I am bisexual, and so are most of my friends. So, I obviously believe gay marriage should be legal. Biased views aside, getting married is a right, not a privilege. Everyone has the right to marry who they want."
"it doesn't matter on what type of sex you are as long as their is love the should not be a problem with gay marriage"
"Ken,Re: "We give marriage benefits to encourage child bearing,:We ALSO give benefits to non-child-bearing heterosexuals."
"We do not give marriage benefits to encourage love. We have lovers who are not married and married people who are not in love. We give marriage benefits to encourage child bearing, not to promote love or any type of sexuality."
"Yes, it should be legal and why not without them the world would be boring. Everyone has the right to love and what have they done to bother people that are against it. I think that the ones that oppose gay marriages should just take what they have to say and shut up because what if they were dating the opposite sex and everyone thought that it was not right. I agree that it says that it is in the Bible that you are not allowed to have sexual relationships with the same sex and that is why God had made 1 man and 1 women because there are different religions all over the world and that this country, the United States wasn't built on the Bible. There shouldn't be a debate on this topic because the people who are gay haven't done or said anything to the people who oppose."
"yes because love is love who are we to judge who or what someone loves"
"YES same sex marriage should me allowed, because people should have the rights to marry someone they love no mater what the sex is (love is love) and this will send a message to people saying its alright to be u and to show it one day together we will all stand equal and hopefully same sex marriage will be allowed across the united states."
"yes because marriage is about two people that love each together dosen't matter what gender you are love is for everyone. marriage shows two people that love each other wanting to spend their rest of their lives together forever."
"I believe it's the right thing to do. Twenty years from now, when my grandchildren ask me , what side of the debate I stood for , I would want to be able to say the side the side of love, acceptance. I look back at newsreels from the 1960's , the dogs , children being escorted to school. 1920's women fighting for the right to vote. Seems simple to me."
"In most questions about the legality of something, there are many reasons something should be legal and many reasons that it should not. It becomes a question of which pile of reasons outweighs the other pile, and which pile most closely adheres to constitutional law. But in this case, there are hundreds of reasons advanced on why it should be legal, but not a single person has been able to identify a single defensible reason that it should not. The reasons given for why it should not are indefensible because they fail to adhere to constitutional law, and because every single one of them boils down to a single thing: "I don't like it because ewwwwww! It's gross! Yucky!" But the thing is, "Yucky" is not a legal justification for robbing a group of people of their human rights."
"I 100% support gays. Some people say that it is wrong, or they are going to hell, or love is a privilege, not a choice. Well you know what, if you love someone you should want & be able to legally marry them & raise a family & be with them for the rest of your life. I don't care if it's a male & female, male & male, or female & female. I honestly don't see couples any different just cause they might be together but be the same sex. Gay marriage needs to be legal in all states today."
"Yes, gay marriage shiould be legal because love is not a gender!"
"I believe that love is love. Just because you are attracted to the same sex doesn't mean that they shouldn't be offered the same opportunities as heterosexuals. It may say its a sin in the bible, but we all sin everyday, but God still forgives us. He loves all his children. People are out there murdering and lying, but its not ok to be gay? That is not right. Everyone deserves to be treated equally. Like what my parents always told me treat people they want to be treated."
"They aren't different and they never will be! People that are gay shouldn't be judged by who they like because maybe it isn't what we usually see in our everyday lives, but it is part of life you have to deal with that! They are just like you, HUMAN, and that gives you no right to judge them like they aren't. Ya, maybe it makes some people uncomfortable but you should be able to handle it. Again, in all caps, IT'S PART OF LIFE! It's not right for them to have to follow different rules than us because some people are so self-centered to even think about them. Nobody wants to have to do that so don't make them. It makes me uncomfortable too but I never say anything 'cause I know they are just like me, nothing much different. So don't go around judging them just because you THINK they are different because you are wrong."
"I'm pro, because this issue is very important to me, being a lesbian myself, and making myself a part of the cause for going on almost 3 years now."
"Gay marriage should be allowed because you should marry whoever you truly love."
"Because they deserve to be happy <3"
"Because I am gay."
"yes!god is the only one that will judge you and everyone else! we should have the same rights as heterosexuals do .if you love someone enough that you want to marry it shouldn't matter !"
"I believe that everyone should be treated fairly and respected all the same. Gay marriage is not a sin nor is being gay. After all, you fall in love with a person not a gender. Regarding having children being brought up in a household with same sex parents, I think that it will do no harm to the children as they will be treated with the same love and respect they would have living with straight parents. Homosexuality is NOT a sin. It is a natural occurrence which is found in every living species, homophobia is only found in one. Stop labelling people, we are all the same."
"don't tell me gay marriage shouldn't be legal because the bible says its wrong. in the verse leviticus 18:22 it says ''You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; its an abomination.'' This statement clearly states sex isn't to be aloud between the same genders. However marriage doesn't have to involve sexual relations."
"There you quoting the bibe. What is that your only defance on your side? The bible also says do not judge!! Don not have sex until married, do not have bad thoughts thoughts others love thy nabor. Honor they Mother and Father. Nerver go agiast what they or challagen them. Did you do that. Let me ask you something how manytimes dd you break the 10 comments in your life? Until you can live by the bible fully and totally then you souldnt use the bible to hide behind. Do not judge others is also in the bible and that is what you are doing. So letstake out the bible and in your own words fight agaist us if you wish but dont be using the bible to do s.Until you can really live your ife as the bible says so and nt just parts of it when you feel like tring to use it agaist others. Thanks"
"Yes, because people should be with someone they love no matter the sex."
"I have so many friends who are gay and I imagine how awful it would be if I had a gay child who couldn't have all the benefits of a heterosexual couple, such as marriage with his/her loved one, burial next to this individual, ect, ect, and I feel really sad. I want them and those like them to have all the thing I get to have because I'm heterosexual. Also, I really think its not my business who you marry as long as that person is a consenting adult. I wish EVERYONE happiness, no matter what gender you partner is. ^_^"
"Gay marriage should be legal because it is not other people's business who you are in a relationship with. so the government should mind their business"
"Marriage is NOT a religious institution. It has existed long before Christianity, and was originally a property contract. I find it hypocritical for religious zealots to scrape up the tiny few quotes from their bible that they think might mean "God doesn't like gays" but they ignore many other parts that condemn many things that exist in their lives.Our government is separate from the church. Our founding fathers specifically went this route as they were escaping the religious rule in England. To now insist that our laws should be defined by personal religious beliefs is ludicrous.If your ONLY reason for objecting to the lawful marriage of two people of the same gender is for your own personal or religious beliefs, then you need to step back and think about how not everyone believes the same as you do. Hell, not even all churches and religions believe as you do.And if your argument that marriage is "for the children" then you're deluding yourself. Most "traditional" marriages do not result in child birth or raising. If you're latching on to that belief, then you should also be protesting the legal marriage of a man and a woman that do not plan to or cannot have children."
"I agree that religion is not important to this subject. I am not a religious person. I do however think that we give marriage benefits to opposite sex couples because they are the most likely to produce children. Not all opposite sex couples produce children, but we are betting on the law of averages. Are you suggesting that we should eliminate group benefits and give direct benefits only? This would keep all persons that do not procreate from receiving benefits.We could withhold marriage benefits until a child is produced. Or, we could eliminate marriage entirely, get the government out of the bedroom, and just give people cash for each child produced. I like that idea. Do you?"
"It saddens me that this is still a topic of debate. Why should we be fighting to love who we want. This is an embarrassment. I am a Christian, but I believe there is more to Christianity that not sinning. Christianity is about being an overall good person. Telling people they don't deserve the same rights as you because they love someone is not a Christian thing to do. If the bible told you to kill your kids would you? The bible is how old? Christianity is about forgiving, accepting, loving, caring, and helping others. Not about discriminating people because they do not love the opposite sex. Everything is meant to change overtime. Gays are just as good as us and should not be discriminated, or feel embarrassed by their feelings."
"Think about if it were you. Would you want to be told that you couldn't marry the person you loved? Love is Love and no one can stop you from getting married. Its a human right!"
"I don't understand why we even are debating this? People will fall in love with whomever they happen to fall in love with. It's already proven that people don't choose to be straight or be gay, it's a perfectly natural phenomenon. It's happens for not just humans, but most animals as well.The way I see this "debate" is there's some little p****s who're offended by something that has nothing to do with them and need to get over it.It's them who needs help, not the h***s."
"It's not up to anyone to tell someone who they are allowed to marry."
"I am pro because we all should be free to love the person we love. We all should accept those whom love the other sex because we are all human and we should be able to live with the person we want without it being a problem. I am bi-sexual so I think we all should love one another. I would like to get married someday to the person of my dreams which happens to be a girl. this is the reason why I am pro for this cause. it shouldn't be a problem for them to just pass a bill that will clearly state gay couples can get married."
"I strongly believe gay marriage should be legalized. Just because your deity forbids it doesn't mean you have to force your religion on gays. Not everyone believes in the same deity and not everyone believes in one."
"I see nothing wrong with same-sex marriage. People should not be pressured to change who they are. We should have equal rights and no one should be discriminated against."
"if your saying that the point of marriage is for reporduction, Witch ive seen in a couple of comments and that the reason your against same sex marriage, Well theres is a good answer for that...... adoption they could give a home to a good child that would mean less kids in a foster home and more kids in a real home. And for the people who are against it saying o well there kids are gonna get bullied...... no just no you need to teach your kid not to bullie and maybe the world would be better .One more thing imagine if we ived in a world were being gay was normal and being stright was not right think about that let that sit in youur mind when you decied to write your negotive comment."
"We give marriage benefits to promote child bearing. We give tax deductions for dependents to promote child rearing. Adoption is a good thing, but it sounds like you're confusing the two issues. I support adoption by same sex couples and by single people, but I think a preference should be given to opposite sex couples because having a male and a female role model at home is a good thing. Two good gay parents are much better than two bad straight parents. Adoption is not the issue. Same sex marriage is."
"Let people live their life how they want to. Why deprive people of their right to love one another and express it legally?"
"Love is love! Everyone should be able to love who they want. Some people say "I don't wanna see that" well, quite frankly no one wants to see heterosexuals expressing their love in public either. Everyone has the pursuit of happiness right!Gay marriage should be legal <3"
"HOMOPHOBES demand to scream against us, claim even God is against us, outlaw us, and refuse us service, rights, even execute us- All so they can keep pretending we don't exist. No- You can't enact all this legislation against us, publicly declare war on our rights, our lives, our dignity, even our souls, then claim that what matters is your precious right not to notice us.-"
"As an institution that has become more egalitarian and considered to be a basic human right, marriage should be made available to all human beings regardless of sexual preference. Marriage is about love and commitment, what do we have to fear from that? Two things remain clear through all the debates, demonstrations, court cases, and legal rulings, first is that we are all human no matter our sexual preference we are all human beings, and when we were born we were born with all the basic human rights as those born before us and those to be born after us. Second, this battle is one that may never see an end, both sides are standing their ground according to their beliefs. Since the beginning days of the Civil Rights movement we as Americans have been in a constant battle to secure our basic human rights. Rights that African-Americans, women, and homosexuals have had stripped away and/or banned because they are different. Different in America has become a sign of weakness and overall not good for society as a whole, imagine where we would be if no one stood up against those decisions. We are better than this fight if we can all come together instead of seeing each other as segregated sections of a broken society."
"You say marriage is about love and commitment. I say marriage is about a piece of paper that carries specific monetary benefits. You are already allowed to have a boyfriend or a girlfriend regardless of you sex, but people only ask for marriage certificates when they want money. Why do you seek marriage benefits only for couples and say nothing about benefits for single people like me? Do you have something against single people. The only way to achieve marital equality for all adults is to eliminate marriage. then we can treat all people as individuals and equals before the law."
"there is no real reason we should be against it its not are choice how we love guy girl or anything and people need to understand that love is being happy for who your with"
"The bible also calls for no hair cuts, no eating bacon, no playing football, no fortune telling, no tattoos, no wearing polyester, no divorces, no wearing gold, no eating shellfish, no going to church if you are sterile/lost your reproductive system to a disease (such as cancer), no woman can defend a man by grabbing the attacker's reproductive system, and no sexual pleasure without coming inside of a woman. Clearly we seemed to of skipped over these facts. If you can do things such as those even if this so called 'bible' tells you not to, then why is same-sex marriage still illegal in so many places? I'm not going to let a book tell me what love is, we have our own minds an our own thoughts. Don't let anyone control them for you."
"I am pro same-sex marriage because I believe that everyone deserves love and acceptance, regardless of sexual preference. If a man falls in love with a man, or a woman falls in love with a woman, they should be allowed to show their love for each other in public areas without being discriminated against like heterosexual partners do. Maybe the legalization of same-sex marriage will show people the true meaning of love and acceptance. You can't help who you fall in love with. Being LGBT isn't a choice. You know what is a choice ? Waking up every day and deciding that two people being in love is going to affect your life negatively. That's a choice."
"I'm a pro because first, I know a lesbian family who have two kids they adopted and they're perfectly fine. I don't get the con that kids have to have a mom and a dad because the lesbian family's kids love both their moms."
"Love has no gender, we all have the right to love who we want. And shouldn't have to deal with the harass from others just because of who we love. And who we want to spend the rest our lives with. If you truly love that person i think you have every right to be able to marry that person. Even if it's the same-sex."
"I am pro because first off, I am bisexual. Second of all, I do not think that the Government should have any say so in who we get to marry, because ti's not as if we're are marrying a terrorist, we are only marrying someone of the same sex. Is it "normal"... depends on who you ask, but I do know that the government has been trying and succeeding in ruling every, single, solitary, moment and aspect of our lives, and it is like the government is a puppeteer and we are the puppets, destined to do whatever they what us to do, because we are only the citizens. Honestly, the only way that the government should be allowed to do, that has to do with America's marriage, is giving us our marriage certificate and moving on with their lives, and starts living theirs, and stop living ours for us like we aren't able to live by our own selves with them interfering."
"to be completely honest, i believe that gay marriage should be legal, because although the bible states that it is wrong, nobody follows the bible as strongly as they portray it. plus, everyone uses the bible for evidence anyways because that's the bandwagon everyone chose. i believe gay marriage should be legal for reasons such as: the marriage business would be booming, and the fact that happy gay/lesbian couples can finally be the united couple they want to be. why take away someones happiness because you don't approve? step back from society for a minute and see how happy these same-sex couples actually are. they are NOT queers or fags. NONE of those horrible terms. they are just humans, just like everyone else. happy humans being with someone they love and care about. that itself is not something that should be discriminated against, but rather, in my opinion, embraced and encouraged."
"Gay marriage should be legal. Who are we to tell someone they cant be with the person they wanna spend the rest of their lives with."
"Love is a privledge to anyone who wants it. Anyone should be free to love who they want, and not one person should decided that for anyone else. If you are aginst gay marriage, think of it this way; what if you loved someone. and you loved them so dearly. But random stangers who did not even know what you have tioghter tell ytou you can't marry them because they dont think you can? CRAZY!"
"i think anyone should have the right to date and marry who they want so make that a law"
"Gay marriage should be legal because denying gays, lesbians, or bisexual people the right to marry is wrong. Nobody goes and tells my sister that she's disgusting because she's lesbian or picks on my brother because he's bisexual.... People should just grow up and deal with the fact that some things aren't always going to be the way they want it to be. So just suck it up and don't be such a loser..."
"I am PRO Gay Marriage because I believe simply that all Americans should the right to marry the person they love. I am a 26 yeard old, single, white, female and I am straight. I base my opionon on gay marriage to that of if I was banned from marrying my boyfriend because we are striaght, then I would feel angered and violated."
"I'm pro because human f****** rights."
"People will love who they want to love, besides don't they deserve it from all the suffering people put on them. I know for a fact I'm gay, and so I need a person to love so we can share the suffering."
"I believe gay marriage should be legal because it isn't my decision who else decides to get married or not. Also if two people love each other and stay together for life they deserve to get the same benefits as hetero-sexual married couples. And if not marriage at least some sort of license that allows them to have the same benefits of marriage."
"HOW IS MY MARRIAGE CHOICE AFFECTING YOURS?"
"Your sexual, emotional and cohabitation choices do not affect me, but when you ask for marriage benefits that are paid for with my tax dollars, I am affected."
"there is absolutely no reason for gay marriage to be illegal. It isn't harming anyone. Why is it so bad for same sex couples to get married? The bible is no excuse, either. Today, we as people disobey the bible in plenty of ways, so why is this any different?"
"yes because its not fair that people are shamed for being who they are because nomatter what they say god created them like that."
"Naturally, as a Lesbian I am for the recognition of same-sex marriage. First, any discrimination of any sort is incomprehensible to me in a nation that is supposed to be the "land of the free" and declares "equal rights" for all. Second to ban same-sex marriage on the proposition that it is a reason for the decline in the institution of marriage is unfounded. From my standpoint it appears that the battle is about the use of a term - "marriage." What term is used is not important. What is important is that our children can grow up to feel safe and wanted regardless of their gender orientation; that they can marry whom they love, again without regard to gender orientation. The time has come for America to stand by all their people, affording them the same legal rights regardless of gender orientation, race, creed, religion, age, etc. America needs to be the beacon of equity within its borders and around the world."
"people should have a choice on who they love male or female. if you dont like it then fine its not you life to choose"
"Gay marriage should be legal because I, for one, would love to be treated equally and have the same rights as heterosexuals."
"Everyone deserves to marry the love of their life. Everyone deserves to be happy."
"Gay marriage is a wonderful thing to have in this world! That's B.S. that people say its going to wipe out the whole human race. Really?? How would that possibly happen? There are people out there that will stay heterosexual and reproduce. Let people have the same marriage rights as heterosexual people. Its like in the past all over again, where people would judge by their religion but instead of religion, its having the same marriage rights as heterosexuals. Gay marriage is not hurting anyone. P.S. Where does The Bible say same sex marriages is forbidden. Don't bring religion into this. The world is constantly changing and the Bible was in the past. (not meaning to offend anyone)"
"if some one is happy let them be"
"If gay marriage isn't hurting anyone, why is it illegal? I have no problem with religion until it starts hurting others. Everyone should be allowed to love who they want without any obstacles."
"Most of the anti-gay religious groups try to sugar coat their homophobia by claiming that they "love the sinner but hate the sin". Poppycock. They hate gays just as much as the Westboro Babtist Church does. They just don't have the guts to come right out and say it publicly.Since they know that they have no chance of sustaining a law rooted in bigotry towards a class of people, they try to justify their discrimination by claiming that they want what's best "for the children". More poppycock.According to the census bureau there were 22 million children living in single parent (heterosexual) households throughout the US in 2010 and about 115,000 children living in same sex households. The number of kids in same sex households amounts to 1/2 of one percent of the kids in single parent (heterosexual) households.The fact is that these groups have spent vast amounts of time, effort and money to "protect" 1/2 of one percent of these kids from the tragedy of not growing up with both a mother and a father while totally ignoring the other 99.5%.To me this is the very essence of bigotry in action.Banning gay marriage won't help the kids of the divorced and separated and never married "christian" parents out there."
"i believe that anybody can do what they want ????"
"People should be able to love whoever they want to without being judged. Everyone deserves to be able to be who they are no matter what choice they make."
"What is so wrong about letting people be happy. If it is disrespectful to you then don't involve yourself with it. People have the right to be happy. A lot of Cons I have been reading say that people "can change". Why would they want to change and ruin their happiness for? The acceptance of the Lord? God accepts you for who you are, not for who you love. So many people have lied, divorced, and done so much more that goes against what the bible says. So your going to let someone get a divorce and be upset, rather than let 2 men or woman marry and be happy! Equality everyone, seriously. GAY MARRIAGE SHOULDN'T AFFECT YOUR LIFE. I once saw a quote that said the only way you should be offended by gay marriage, is if you weren't invited to the wedding. (By the way, traditional marriage is at a 40%-50% divorce rate). You are going to stand in a school and preach that discrimination isn't right, when that's what we are doing again. Seriously, each day there is about 300,000 traditional marriages that aren't affecting your life. Why should gay marriage. If you aren't the one having a gay wedding, then go on with your life. Its not your place to tell someone who they should or shouldn't be."
"Because I believe in equality. Our government was founded on FREEDOM and having someone turned away from marriage is the complete opposite of freedom."
"Love is love no matter what. A government shouldn't be able to control who falls in love."
"Gay marriage should be legal because everyone is different, everyone has a different feeling on subjects and in life.The gay community is not excluded from this theory. America is the home of the brave and the land of the free; you aren't free if you cant marry you you want."
"Love is love!!!"
"When did you choose to be strait, white and have any illnesses you have?"
"What if everyone was born homosexual, but for some reason people "chose" to be hetersexual? If the roles were reversed how would you feel? Would you be able to marry the person you love. Doubt it. All because a few people thought it was immoral. That is ridiculous."
""Love is love, it doesn't matter."-Riker Anthony Lynch"
"Because, why not?"
"Isn't it interesting that a country founded to allow freedom from religious persecution is now using religion to persecute freedoms?"
"I don't care about people being gay aslong as they leave me alone. And don't try to get onnat with me"
"For all you cons the reason you dont want gay marriage is because you are homophobic and don't want anyone to be happy but you and your breeders i say this cuz my mom is gay and she is very happy with her partner so stop being homos and let other people be happy to no matter if they straight bi or gay"
"I am pro because males and females should not be treated differently under the law."
"Love is love whether its a duck and a chicken or a male and a male. You anti gay marriage people need to get over yourself"
"i think marriage is a beautiful thing, no matter if its with a woman and man, man and man, or woman,and woman. gay marriage is looked at like a disease or some type of sin from hell, when in reality its just a title. people deserve to be happy with whomever they want hundreds of men and women commit suicide each year because they cant get married with the person they love. no one should be shunned away from a happy life,no one should be denied the right to live a happy life with their partner. gay marriage isint any different from marriage, the only thing different about it is the word 'gay' in it."
"Saying someone can't marry the person they love because it's against YOUR religion is like saying someone can't eat a donut because YOU'RE on a diet. In other words; ridiculous."
"We all tell ourselves this is the best country in the world. But when we act this way, we look foolish. I say let same sex couples get married and lets worry about other topics. Plain and simple!!!!"
"Every argument I've seen against same-sex marriage boils down to "homosexuality is wrong". By homosexuality they mean "homosexual acts" (sodomy). The supreme court ruled in Lawrence v Texas that there is no rational basis for the government to regulate sexual acts between consenting adults in the privacy of their own bedroom.The opponents of same sex marriage seem to assume that heterosexual married couples don't engage in sodomy.Horse feathersIf religious types want their church to tell them which sexual acts they can perform and with whom, that's fine. But those rules don't apply to someone who isn't a member of their congregation and our government isn't in the business of trying to make them apply.You in the anti-gay crowd say that god will punish sodomites. That's fine. Let him. Have a little faith. Surely you don't need to pass a secular law in order to mete out god's punishment. It's a pretty lame all-powerful being if you feel he needs you to do his dirty work for him. In the meantime, keep your religion out of my government and quit trying to get it to do the job that your god is supposed to be doing."
"Just because someone's religion goes against it, doesn't mean it should be illegal. Besides, if we ban LGBT, we ban love. We have to make America open to everyone. That's why it was created, for freedom, was it not?"
"people should love freely. give me 10 good reasons why they shouldn't."
"People in same sex relationships are no different than any other couples and they should be allowed the same rights, they aren't hurting anyone and denying them their rights is unconstitutional and discriminatory."
"I most definatley believe that same sex marriage should be allowed. I believe this because I honestly think we have no right to tell gays and lesbians how they can and should live their life. Also a lot of heterosexual marriage aren't as successful as they used to be. If these gays and lesbians truly love eachother we should let them go, it would bring down or divorce rate and we wouldn't be showing kids that its okay to discriminate against people that are different. So overall yes I am for gay marriage I don't care if you judge me because i'm related to one."
"Gay marriage should be legalized. Nobody has the right to tell you who you should love."
"pro i think gay marriage should be perfectly legal due to many reasons. I beilve that is shouldnt affect anyone else"
"I believe that gay marriage should be legal. I am a christen but I don't hate on people because of who they love. They can't help who they fall in love with. And doesn't the bible say somewhere that God loves all his people? I'm just pointing that out! We need to keep state and religion separate!"
"Gay marriage does not affect my life in any way. So why wouldn't I support it? Most laws are to prevent something bad from happening to oneself, the country, or someone else. Since gay marriage does not hurt the individual, the country, or other people why not legalize it?"
"If no one is being hurt by same sex couples then what's the problem. If you have a personal view to go with sum b******** you pulled out of your a** good for you. However, when you take the personal views and the bible views everyone can see same sex couples are just like every other person on Eath. Just with a different partner. The main point here is teach his own. It's thier choice to make. Some ass has no say in any of it."
"I think it should be legalized because they deserve equal rights & also they shouldn't be judged on who they love."
"All people are entitled the same rights, liberties, and protections under the law. Also, because bigotry is kind of f***** up."
"You to be honest i am sick of all the bad comments about how no gays should adopt or be married! You love who you love wheather its a girl and a girl or a guy and a guy or bisexual or Transgender! Its just who you are! I support Gay marriage and support that gays should be aloud to adopt! Love is love NO MATTER WHAT!"
"Yea, god says in the bible that a man sleeping with another man is an abomination that is punishable by death, but the bible also says that kids that lie are abonimations and should be put to death and you dont see people argueing about that do you? NO! Gay marriage is not wrong and it is not abomination. People need to look other places then just the bible. Next time your walking down the street realize that 3 out of every 5 people walking down the same street as you are gay and they are not hurting anything.!"
"I agrre with you all the way!! No gays are hurting anything!"
"If the CONS will play it by the Bible, so will I. Whatever happened to "do unto others as you would have them do unto you?" YOU certainly wouldn't like it if YOU couldn't be your spouse. So don't decide for them.And what about Noah's ark? I can't believe no one saw this. After God wiped out everything, the only survivors were Noah and his wife, his straight sons and THEIR wives, and a male and female of all animals, who had to be straight to revive their species. It was a world without gays. And yet... gayness has been observed in humans and 500 other animal species. God could've made it so we'd be straight forever, but he decided NOT to. Ergo, He MEANT for gays to be here. I understand that some of the CONS are only defending their religion, and I know they mean well, but surely you know that God doesn't want his children to fight. So please, try for some tolerance and acceptance."
"I'm pro because everyone has the same rights to happiness as anyone else in this country. Also because I'm gay."
""I believe that the government should give people blond benefits because I have the same rights to happiness as anyone else in this country. Also because I'm blond.""
"People who are against it, chill. People should be allowed to do whatever they want to do with their lives. So what if two males get married? Is it the end of the world? Are you, in any way or form, harmed? Does the stock market crash? I think not. Any bans on gay rights should be deemed unconstitutional. Neither Congress nor any state should have the power to deny a couple, no matter what gender, the standard rights. Does a gay couple defy your religion? Yes? Guess what? Guess what? In the eyes of the constitution, we couldn't care less. Boom! Nowhere in the constitution does it say that gay couples cannot marry or are to be denied basic marriage rights. All men are created equal. No matter what they chose to do with their life, as long as they are loyal citizens, THEY ARE EQUAL."
"It is a basic right to marry who you love, as for "ruining the institution of marriage", there are many other things that are actually taking their toll on it."
"Seperation of Church and State. That's it. Marriage is for everyone. Love is Love. It doesn't need to be more complicated than that."
"I think everyone has the right to be with, or marry whomever they want. I mean, guys think its okay for a girl to be with another girl, but if two guys are together, it's disgusting. I honestly don't see what's wrong with it. If you're a girl and you don't like girls, don't be with one. If you're a guy and you don't like guys, don't be with one. It's as simple as that."
"yes because love is love and I don't see why it matters to anyone else when two people want to be together. As simple as that. Put yourself in someone else's shoes!"
"Yes gay marriage should be legal. It is brutal to deny people the chance to be happy with whoever they love.Bible beaters quote verses, but god himself never wrote any of these quotes, allowed or forbade anything. I think the general idea would be "Love one another and let love -it makes for a more peaceful world". Paid memberships to churches make no one holier.The insurance companies and all the crying parties, what are they losing exactly? They would add spouses in their plans and policies anyway. Do they have to pick what gender they insure?"
"It says in the constitution all men will be treated as an equal. so why not treat those who like the same gender as them as equals."
"The prevention of homosexual marriage goes against the very institution of democracy throughout the country. People should be able to control the love in their own lives."
"I am pro-same sex marriage because I believe everyone should have equal rights under the law and there's no reason to be against it. I'm a Christian, but I completely support the legalization of same sex marriage because I know it's right."
"I support gay marriage because gays, lesbians, bi-s, etc...deserve the same rights as everyone else. Anyone against this for religious reasons is a hypocrite. The bible says not to cut your hair, or eat shellfish. Besides, you don't have a right to tell people not to eat donuts just because you're on a diet."
"I agree the bible also says not to discriminate either!"
"There is absolutely nothing that is wrong with this. Religion should play no key role in this, as separation of church and state. Religion should also be kept out of politics, and not have decisions like this based on such a thing. If you can practice YOUR religion, they can practice THEIR sexuality."
"Of course it should be legal."
"It does no harm to others and, on the contrary, offers stability to those who want to have their relationship taken to the highest level of love. In the end, love is all that matters and arguments against it due to 'procreation' being the reason for marriage is poppycock. Many married people don't have children and many more shouldn't have them. I have seen extremely well-adjusted children grow in households with same-gender parents. If the home is stable, regardless of gender preference, the child(ren) thrive. This is not only about making those who love within their own gender able to care for each other in the same way a heterosexual couple can when in a hospital. It's not about 'forcing' anyone to be anything other than who they are. It's about finally acknowledging someone's preference without judgment."
"It is unfair to allow certain groups of people certain rights. How would these married heterosexual persons like it if things were switched and they were not allowed the same rights as gays? What if a heterosexual woman wanted to be with the person she loved, a man, but was born in another country and not a US citizen and couldn't stay? How would this effect them? What if a heterosexual man was denied access to their dying female partner in a hospital? What if a heterosexual woman was left penniless after her male partner had passed away? How is it "right" to not allow people to love whom they choose and be allowed the same benefits as other persons in the same country, or the world for that matter? People are people. We are not animals. We should have the same access to the same things as any other person. If you define marriage as between a man and a women, why is it acceptable if a man has had a sex change to a woman and then marries a man? How is it acceptable for married couples to divorce? Why is acceptable to discriminate so bluntly in the USA? Is this what we've learned from our past? Let's let one another live as we choose and mind our own business. My love for another is of no concern of yours. :)"
"gay marriage should be legal everywhere WHO DOESN'T LIKE ELLEN DEGENERES"
"There alot more gay celebrities and people still like them!"
"This is a logical fallacy. You are stating something is true because someone famous thinks it's true. And just because someone is guy does not mean we do not like them. Thank you."
"I personally am a pro. BUT- for all you people that are cans, why not? What's it matter to you if two guys or two gals love each other? You may not necessarily like it, but haven't you ever heard, "mind your own business?" It may be "sinful" or whatever, but why do you care? You don't like it- then you go ahead and be straight. It's their "sins." besides, aren't we all equal? This is going to be slavery all over again. My kids find it unbelievable that blacks were slaves. That's how it should be for their kids. They should ask us, "Grand(ma/pa), why didn't people like gays?" just like our kids ask about slavery. Also- look up gay in the dictionary. "Happy." That is what the partners are. Plain people that are happy. Happy and in love. Take the person that you love the most in this messed up world, and imaging that you can't be with them because of a stupid law (or lack of law). How do you feel? Not very good. Love is love. And love is happy. So love, is gay."
"I believe gay marriage should be aloud because, why dose it matter to you who someone Marries. Would you want to be ridiculed and mocked for being you. Gay or lesbian I believe gay marriage should be aloud no matter what others think or say."
"Ken once again you're incorrect. It doesn't matter if you support it not because it's a civil right. Cohabiting and actually living are two separate things. By your logic we should simply not allow any minority we don't like to get married in this country. You may not like our relationships but your disgust isn't a valid reason to strip someone of their civil rights."
"I disagree with you argument. It does matter to me when people want the right to marry because they want the economic benefits of marriage. This argument is about money. Same sex couples have the right to cohabit and have physical and emotional relationships. People only ask for the title of marriage because they want the monetary benefits of marriage, such as spousal health care and lower couples tax rates. When I have to fund those benefits with my tax dollars, then it matters to me."
"I think there should be gay marriages because if a person really cares about another person that is gay then they should be allowed to get married... Who cares about who they marry... Some people just make me so mad because it is not any of their business to know"
"does any one know the constitution it says that we have the right to persue happyness so if loving a nother man or loving another woman is your persute of happyness then let us do what we want and treat us like a normal human because we are just like you a little diferent"
"Love is a feeling, anyone can feel it. so therefore, love is love no matter what gender."
"Is "god" all that we follow? Everyone CON says, "god this, god that".. Its not JUST "GOD"! BE YOUR OWN PERSON! Stop saying, "how "god" is all that we follow!" ITS NOT! Stop thinking that it's just "god"! I am not hating on religion, but he is not the only person we "follow", plus he created us! He made us! HOW WE ARE!Everyone is also saying "the original definition of "couple" is a women and a man", but nothing is very original anymore!"
"It is the groups choice. If someone does not want it than they should just not do it. The group should have the freedom to marry who they want"
"The only Con comments I've seen (with the exception of two or three) have been revolving around religion or the production of a child, my first point, religions exist that are against marriage period (including heterosexual) but yet that is legal, because religion should not get in the way of love, and if the only point of marriage is to produce a child then do you stand saying that infertile woman can not be wed? How DARE you make such a preposterous statement?! and how DARE you try to dictate who people shall and shall not love?"
"Religious groups that oppose marriage generally don't last long, because child-birth and being raised in a religion is the primary way that religions propagate. We do not say that a couple must be fertile to wed. We say that opposite sex couples are the most likely to produce a child. Are you trying to say that specific, targeted benefits are a better idea than group benefits? That argument would work against same sex couples too. We also do not try to dictate who people can and cannot love. There is no law against that. We oppose giving marriage benefits to those that are unlikely to produce many children"
"Your statement almost sounds like not only religion but nothing should stand in the way of love. What is love? If that love is so great then why can't we accept incest, pedophiles, and rapists? I see homosexual relationship as a peek to the downfall of our society because the idea is so tricky and sneaky. Once we rationalize and accept same-sex marriage it will lead us to rationalizing over other labels such as incest, pedophiles, and rapists.People don't see the big picture and just want their immediate desires to be filled but rationalism is real and it stabs us in the back later. What do you say to a person who says 'I was born with a feeling towards little kids'? What can you possibly say to a person who love their own sibling? What can you say to a rapist who says that his/her action was purely on love? Even if they say that they had a mutual feeling, these are all labeled to be treated as a crime and a sin.Love is an irrational thing.Who are you to say that an old man cannot love a little child and a siblings cannot love and have sexual relation when you yourself think homosexual love is okay?Accepting homosexual marriage is giving a way for other inappropriate relationships to rise and corrupt our society."
"Being gay is not a choice, you are born that way. So why would God create gay people if he wasn't okay with the idea of it? And don't go and say that it is a choice, why would kids be committing suicide because they "don't want to be gay anymore," if it was a choice? Wouldn't they just stop being gay then? It doesn't work that way. LOVE IS LOVE. Everyone is entitled to it, and to be happy."
"ALL PEOPLE ARE EQUAL AND GOD LOVES US ALL. EVERYONE DESEVES TO BE LOVED AND PRONOUNCE THEYRE LOVE TO THE WORLD!!!"
"Amen my sister! I don't know what God some people read about, but the Bible I read, which is the same bible millions of others read, said that he's a God that loves all, even the criminals. If God loves a murderer, then why can't he love a queer."
"One does not need to be married in order to be loved or to announce their love to the world."
"God loves those who respect God and uphold the way God intended us to live. When you commit sodomy and promote homosexuality, I don't think you are respecting the human body you have been blessed with and the way it was intended for you to use it. Think correctly Julia, you can't do the wrong thing by natural law, let alone ignore God saying that homosexuality and sodomy is forbidden, and then say "GOD LOVES ME!" don't waste your whole life being that ignorant... it makes me sad it really does..."
"Bans are unconstitutional and it goes against the first and ninth amendment of the people denying us freedom of religion and any other written rights.Even though it is not written, doesn't mean it can't be protected."
"Love is love! It comes from your heart and your head!!! What if our president was gay? THEN WHAT?! LEAGALIZE IT!!!"
"I think everyone should be free and be able to love who ever they want too. Love is Love."
"As a Dane i find it mind boggling how a country that is supposedly a democracy, founded not only with firm principles that people have freedom of religion. In order words the government or the state cannot prevent you from exercising your religious believes. However religion is supposed to be secularized, so that the people is also free from the oppression of religion. Not supporting same sex marriage is the same as racism. It falls under the same category as those who wanted to keep slavery. Oppressing people because of what they were born as, is undemocratic and it is disgusting. In other words "gay" rights are CIVIL RIGHTS either you all of them for EVERYBODY or you have none. Besides if the fundamental protestant influence was smaller in the States then this would not be an issue. If you interpret the bible then it is 100% compatible with same sex marriage. Taking religious text literal is dangerous and medieval, grow up America! All over Europe we have protestant priests which interpret the bible in a wide variety, they are well educated and believe in evolution! Religion is between each individual and whatever faith they have. Period. Your fears should not oppress others. Hope you get your rights, sincerely Mike"
"im am a 14 year old we are all people and we should be looking out for one another we all have the same right and just because someone loves another person of the same sex does not mean they are a bad person i bet if it was straight people being treated this way you would;t like it would you? saying no to gay marriage is aging no to love its NOT OKAY!! we only live once so if ur gunna sit their and worry about how people live their lives and worry about who their going to love or who they have to love it stupid to do. i am defenitly for gay marriage. Just think what if somone you truly loved was gay would u just leave them for it no i bet u would stick around if u don't then thats cruel judging someone for who they are is stupid why can't you just eccept people for who they are so everyone can be happy."
"Gay marriage should be legal. If I want to marry my girlfriend, I should be able to just as easily as the man down the street. I probably have better values and moral than the man a block over that beast his wife (his 3rd wife actually) but he can marry and I cant. Who is the better person exactly?"
"all men are supposed to be equals but why arent gays treated like people how is that fair"
"I am pro because who are we to say you can't marry the person you love."
"It doesn't matter what sex you are as long as you love each other thats all that maters people are mad because people of the same sex are in my eyes better at communicating taking care of children they are better at the wold"
"Even though I am a christian I do believe that gay people shouls be able to marry. For all who say God hates gays is wrong because God loves everyone. People who dont support it, fine but dont throw reilgon at the situation not everyones belifs are the same and its unfair. If you really are Christian you would know that the Bible says not to judge anyone only God judges, you are not God therfore you cannot judge. People belive in all sorts of things but it is not our place to dictate them. The Govt should not even be involed with marriage their focus should be war and anything else they have to deal with but marrige is is for the people and has nothing to do with Legislature.executive,or judicail (i probally didnt spell that right) So no i dont commened gay marrige but if that is what they person wnts to do then who am I to say no...who are you to say no..."
"Gay marriage should be legal because they believe in it and its their pursuit of happiness and it's not hurting someone else."
"Why does it matter what sex the parents are as long as a kid has a stable home to live is people should not be Sao sexist and grow up you don't have to marry a man or a women but another person might want to so just back off"
"No one should be able to dictate how someone else lives thier own life. If you want to go with gay marriage should be illegal because marriage is ment for creating more humans, then shouldn't people who can't have children not be allowed to get married? People need to just let it go, it's not your life so it shouldn't concern you. It is your right to not be gay and marry whom ever you like, so it should be someone else's right to be gay and marry whom ever they want to. People have been preaching equality for houndreds of years and sadly we still don't have it down. Everyone needs to live their own lives and stop denying someone else their freedom of happiness. I really don't know why people think they have the right to stand in the way of a strangers personal life style. It's like telling someone they can't like bananas becasue you don't, or they can't like broccoli because you don't, or they can't like chevy because you like ford... sounds prtty silly when you make the same situation a little simpler doesn't it."
"I am Pro because of The Right to Freedom Of Speech! No matter what there will always be gay people families and couples walking the streets why not just held the peace and legalize it and stop the war."
"I'm Pro because most people look down on gay marriage for one of two reasons-their supposed party-hookup-with-everybody lifestyle, and/or the single verse in the Bible that states that a man shall not lay with another man. First of all, if two women or two men want to get married to each other, they obviously want to spend the rest of their lives together! They don't want to hookup with every living being like some may thing. They love each other, and who's going to stop them from doing that? Love is inevitable. And, that verse in the Bible is one among thousands, and if you care to read the surrounding verses, they sound just as insane. Plus, you are reading that verse in the wrong context. That verse is a part of a story, and is not necessarily a sacrament, such as communion or baptism. Jesus Christ, as recorded, NEVER SAID THAT TWO MEN/WOMEN COULD NOT MARRY. That is just bigotry by Orthodox Christians who base all of their arguments on one verse and the fact God created Man and Woman, not Man and Man. Discriminating against gays and lesbians is just as bad, if not worse, than discriminating against those who are a different race. It's love. Love shouldn't have to be legalized in the first place. But it must. I rest my case."
"Bro listen Jesus said that one man is meant for one woman. now I am not against rights for gays but at the same time I don't think that marriage though is a good thing for two of the same gender. if the two people decided to adopt a kid that kid is going to grow up and make his choice but a kid needs one mom and one dad"
"What part of the 14th Amendment do people not understand?"
"Our natural rights also state that we have the right to pursue happiness."
"Gay people are humans too. The constitution states that we have the right to the pursuit of happiness. Since when can wediscriminate against people just because we have different beliefs than them. Its their choice and they can be however they want to be. People should be able to marry whoever they want to as long as they love eachother."
"How does seeing two homosexual people hurt you? How does it affect you personally in everyday life? It doesn't. everyone lives their own independent lives from each other and need to worry about themselves and not other people's business.,god loves you and sees every sin as being equal. so if someone lies or if two people of the same sex choose to love each other, these sins will be viewed as equal. So if we discriminate against gay people because of this "sin", Then shouldn't people discriminate against the thieves and stealers and murderers? Why don't they get treated poorly and denied service and made fun of? then shouldn't basically everyone be denied services, like the right to get married, since WE ARE ALL SINNERS?? They choose to love someone. Just like heterosexual people choose to love. Homosexuals are still humans. And as human beings they deserve the same rights as everyone else under the constitution. Before african americans were denied rights, when in fact they are human beings with hearts, and they were finally allowed to have the same rights white people share. Homosexuals are just like heterosexual people, just with different beliefs. We all can freely express our rights, and so should homosexual people."
"If the bible wasn't against homosexuality, then i wouldn't care whether or not gay marriage is legal/illegal. At some point all states will allow gay marriage. And that is a fact. I just wish the gay people wouldn't shove this stuff into my face, especially having gay parades and things like that. That's all."
"Matt, you came here of your own free will and posted. No one 'shoved it in your face' (not that str8s don't do that too!).Re: the Bible - since America is not a theocracy, what the Bible says is as relevant to the secular law as what the Book of Tao says. Or the Book of Kells. Or the Q'uran. Or the Book of MoreMen. Or 'Dianetics', for that matter."
"its their life not yours so stay out of their life"
"Dear Chris,In all due intellectual courtesies and class, I say fancily "I KNOW, RIGHT???""
"Are you gay? No? Then why do you care?Why do you care whether gay marriage is legal?Why do you care whom other people love?Why do you care how other people live their lives?It's none of your business. Live your life, and let others live theirs.Some common arguments:"But the Bible..."Too bad. Dislike homosexuality all you want, but the United States of America is a SECULAR state. Religion or any of its scriptures has no authority in federal law."But it's unnatural..."1,500 species of animals other than humans also practice homosexuality. And they do it in nature, too, making it natural."But see, it can't produce babies..."And many heterosexual humans are sterile. Your point?"But the definition of marriage..."And you still call all your foodstuffs "meat" too? Why are you hanging on to such an antiquated definition of marriage then?"But I don't want my children to be around gays..."Oh please. You want to control how others live their lives when you can't even control your own children? This is just pathetic."
"Out of all the cons I think this one caught my eye the most."
"bro listen we are not animals so stop comparing us to them. we have nor ever will be animals. another thing wether you like it or not the Bible is EVERYTHING! Jesus said that one man is to be with one women and who cares what the government or America is. earthly matters don't count its what happens after life that counts."
"America is a free place and gay people should have the freedom to choose just as straight people do. How can you con someone's happiness, their life? Get real people. People who post cons are afraid of differences!"
"America is a free place. Gay people ARE allowed to choose just as straight people do. I do NOT "con" other peoples happiness or their life. I am real. Vive la difference! When you ask to legalize same sex marriage but do not ask for the same benefits for single people, you are continuing the current system of inequality. Shame on you. When you ask for marriage benefits for all couples because they are a couple, that is not an end to discrimination, but a start of discrimination. Shame on you a second time. One more strike and you're out!"
"Pro because its our decision to be gay if we want"
"People should be able to marry who they love, and marry. Regardless of gender."
"It should be legal because America is about freedom and different beliefs!"
"Why shouldn't it be? This country was founded on the right of equality for all. Also, while it is said to be an abomination in the bible, THE SEPERATION OF CHURCH AND STATE! It's in the Constitution. A benefit would be less children in foster care, due to the fact that they couldn't have a child of their own, they would adopt one and reduce the level of children that are up for adoption"
"I don't understand why people are so against gay marriage! It isn't hurting anybody and I just wanna say you shouldn't be thinking negative of gays, nobody asked what you thought about someone's love life! People should just learn to accept and respect. We are human beings and we aren't perfect individuals. Just accept as for who we are, your nothing special that the whole world will desiccate to do whatever you say. Love is love people, and if you can't see that you are just heartless."
"First off their are absolutely no punishments for being homosexual in the bible, in any way whatsoever. now for divorce it says to stone the women to death. do we do that? of COURSE NOT! that would be "wrong" but instead we discriminate against gays because that is also "wrong." my sister is a lesbian and do i care no because it isn't a choice she chose to love who she wished and love is love PERIOD!!!!"
"well, this is mostly religious belief going on here, so if some of the national churches agree on it, then how come they havent made it legal then? The Bible isnt the rules here, the constution is. and nowhere does it say that it isnt allowes to happen."
"Im a pro because love had no gender , I also feel as if you should be able to marry who you want as long as your happy."
"people are people they are just like u and me it just means they like the same sex so don't judge people it isn't right.!"
"Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve? Well, I don't know, Adam and Steve look kinda cute together"
"yes gay marriage should be legal because there can be no limit to love! Why are people judged for who they love??Its not right at all? This is the US where we have freedom but yet there are still states that allow same sex marriage? thats not right! Love is love and you cant control anybody."
"But the literal definition of marriage is where a man and a woman become committed to each other for life and conceive a child. No gay man will ever be able to impregnate his partner, so why would you traditionally marry them together?"
"i am pro because i have family that are gay and the are truely in the with the preson the are with and its the same as a girl and guy getting married its called love people ow are u going to keep true love apart its not right"
"I agree! No one should have stop loving that person they love so everyone will like them and i have alot of gays in my family as well! They are so happy together!"
"people should be allowed to marry whoever they want. Love is love. <3"
"You cannot control who people do and do not love. Let them marry whom they choose."
"What is homosexuality? Even if it is a lifestyle choice (not that I think it is), I can't seem to think of a single reason against it, apart from certain interpretations of a 2000 year old book with dubious validity. People should be allowed to marry (where marrying is defined as a legally sanctioned bond between two human beings with mutual informed consent) whomever they please."
"It's unconstitutional to discriminate against someone simply because they don't have a traditional sexual relationship. It's as if saying to someone you can't marry this man because he's white and you're black. It's as if you were saying that gay people are on a lower level to straight people. It's the same type of discrimination as when blacks were considered lowly and slave workers, it's unconstitutional and it's wrong to say that gays can't be married."
"We live in America. America is supposed to be a place where we welcome everyone no matter his or her religion or where he or she is from. Based on that common knowledge, not everyone in this country is of the same religion; therefore, we cannot base our laws off of one particular religion.So no one is able to back up their opinion based on the bible. The people that said that marriage is a privilege not an right because only men and women are able to procreate are completely blind. Based on wherever that logic came from, men and women who are infertile would be unable to marry."
"LOVE IS LOVE! Stop being judgmental people. You are being cruel by saying its a sin. I AM CHRISTIAN! But there are rules in the bible we choose to ignore- obviously not murder and stealing, etc. But this....? Remember how interracial couples were seen as wrong- you watch in the future- all of you against will be wrong. Bible this- Bible that- shame on you. God would be ashamed. Hey, you have freedom of speech, religion, ect. think what you want! But also think about the people your hurting in the process. In the future you'll look back and say, " Why was I that stupid, cruel and hurtful. ALL PEOPLE SHOULD BE TREATED EQUALLY. And I was wrong to judge them harshly...""
"No person has the authority to judge or tell you who/ what you should love. weather or not your gay it doesnt matter we are all human. it really shouldnt matter to anyone who disagrees because your not the one whos being teased or being homosexual. and if you dont like seeing stuff like that avoid looking!"
"I disagree! At present "no one (does) have the right to tell you who/what you should love." You already have that right. Are you really asking for the ability to get a marriage certificate because you have been teased in the past? That is the worst argument I have ever heard."
"you go head girl!!!"
"Why is this still an issue? I was an early bloomer and wound up in the closet for 10 years. This is really unhealthy- I almost killed myself! When I finally came out, I felt so much better. I wouldn't have had to be in that situation if people were more accepting. People shouldn't have to come out- they should just be able to fall in love. Besides, this is America. There's a separation between Church and State, so I don't have to give a barnacle about what your Bible says about my love. In this day and age, we need all the love we can get. Who cares who it's between?"
"Of course I am. The bible thumping argument means nothing in a secular nation. And as of right now, the Indiana State Senate is attempting to add a gay marriage ban to the Indiana Constitution, which by definition would be unconstitutional. If you are against this type of legislation, please follow the link and sign a petition against it. Thank you for your time."
"Gay marriage should be legalized. Screw the religious stuff, screw "man and woman", screw all of these made up excuses! If being gay is so wrong, then why does it happen in nature? In other SPECIES? I mean, come on people, wake up! Gay marriage is the SAME THING as straight marriage, it just has the same gender. I'm bisexual, but does my family care? No. My friends? No. Because it is not wrong, it's nature, and you can't go against nature."
"Ken, you're just wrong. You don't agree with religious arguments holding weight with regards to marriage yet in the same hand you're saying that our marriages don't benefit society. People who don't desire to have children also get married so really that argument falls flat on its face. Not only that, but the sole goal of marriage shouldn't be popping out as many children as possible. Marriage is about trust and respect, not procreating just for the sake of it."
"God says in the bible that we are the only animals that are capable of reading the bible... If I'm mistaken tell me but you just compared someone that is gay to a squirrel in a way. I support gay marriage but I find some of your information that you have supplied inaccurate"
"First of all,they are not excuses.Second of all,Dont ever say "screw the religious stuff".Third of all,Why does it happen? Gay marriage and "loving"same sex couples happen because we live in a world where SATAN rules over this world.You probably dont care because you probably havent even tried to pick up the bible. "Even Sodom and Gomorrah,and the cities about them in like manner,giving themselves over to fornication,and going after strange flesh,are set forth for an example,suffering the vengeance of eternal life."This is my proof as why gay marriage is wrong."
"no its not people get disease from the same sex sleeping together and and gay marriage is not the same thing as straight marriage they are different things its very wrong a child needs a mother AND father not mother mother or father father and its not nature different species usually make kids u wanna know how by a boy and girl"
"I disagree! I agree that the religious argument carries very little weight with a non-religious person like my self, but I disagree when you say that same sex marriage is the same as opposite sex marriage. The difference is that opposite sex marriage produces more children. This is the reason that we have marriage benefits in the first place, to encourage productivity."
"I dont understand why people judge others based on the bible. That is not what the bible is for!!! Im religious yet I do not go using the bible to destroy happiness. We have ALL made mistakes, but since when has a mistake been to love someone? God is not homophobic like most of these people posting CON comments. But since we are all quoting the bible now, let me just finish with this, *Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' when there is the log in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye. Humanity should not judge their brothers and sisters, if there is one to judge let our father decide. We should not intervene with what is."
"I disagree with your argument. I do not oppose same sex marriage because I judge gays to be bad. I oppose same sex marriage because it continues the current marital inequality and does not end discrimination, but rather begins discrimination. It is good to hear that you are not judgemental, but that is not a good reason to support same sex marriage."
"I think it should be legal because if people want to like the opposite sex and be with them forever then I think they should. Yes, people are entitled to their opinions, but I think if being with the opposite sex means your happy then so be it. If it makes you happy, do it. I mean, I'd rather be with the person who makes me happy than to be with someone who does not or to be alone. Gay Marriage should be legal! Love knows no limit."
"People should be able to marry the person they love, just like heterosexuals. If they love each other, let them be together and happy. It doesn't affect others at all by 2 people wanting to be married."
"love is love"
"I believe that they have as much of a right as I do to love freely."
""Can we stop the crap about the bible? Moses also said that a woman can't wear that which pertains to a man. That you can't eat pork or wear polyester. That if your kid utters a swear word to his parent that you're supposed to stone him to death in public. That you're supposed to bury your leftovers after 3 days. Moses said those things because he needed to establish a difference between the Canaanites and the freed slaves so that people who came into contact with them would know that they are Jews, not Canaanites. It's right there in your book, homosexuality isn't an abomination in the eyes of god, it's an abomination to the purity of the new nation of Israel."Perfectly said."
"Gay marriage should be legal for many reasons. First of all, a same sex couple deserves to get married out of love for one another just like a heterosexual couple should. Second of all, the fact that heterosexual couples get tax benefits and others of marriage and same sex couples cannot shows theres a discrimination that should be unconstitutional under the equal protection clause. There was a time in this country when African Americans and Whites couldn't get married but that was unconstitutional in Love v Virginia. Its sickening that this country which is supposed to be the beacon of freedom still persecutes these individuals."
"You argue for equality for same sex couples, but you propose marriage benefits for couples only and not for single people. you should try proposing a solution that provides equality for ALL Americans, not just couples. You say not allowing same sex couples to marry is discriminatory, but the exact opposite is true.Discrimination is not a synonym for inequality. Discrimination requires inequality and the group receiving benefits not do anything to earn those benefits. Opposite sex couples earn their benefits by producing more children than single people or same sex couples. This is not to say that all opposite sex couples produce children or that single people and same sex couples do not produce any children. Opposite sex couples just produce the most children on average. Because they earn their benefits, "opposite sex marriage only" is NOT discriminatory. What you support, marriage for all couples, is discriminatory because they ARE a couple. Are denotes state of being not something that one produces to earn benefits. You support same sex marriage because of equality and discrimination, yet you propose a solution that accomplishes exactly the opposite."
"i think that gay people should be able to be gay if they want to... in fact... IT ISNT EVEN GAY! Its called normal people!they are just like us in every way, the only difference is... THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE they should have the same rights just as other people do... just because they sleep with the same sex dont mean that they have to be torchured and not have the right to get married! I know and highly beleive that they should legalize "gay" marrages in every state. Its not a gay wedding, its just a wedding! I would love to see people not make fun of people who are "different", even though there is no such thing as normal. :D All Love, No Hate!"
"Why can a straight person marry but a "gay" person can't?Sense when does the government control other peoples lives?"
"I am pro because it's none of my business how others live their lives and I could not care less about petty religious beliefs. Maybe when people start following everything the Bible says, then the people that currently nitpick at it would seem more reasonable. Separation of Church and state truly needs to be enforced, as religion is a PRIVATE matter, and in no way related to the freedoms and welfare of an entire country of nearly 340 million people. Get off of your high, hypocritical horses, and stop denying people the rights your take advantage of just because they're not exactly like you."
"I'm pro cuz' "marriage" is unnatural! People created marriage , not nature! Nature did not create marriage and you don't have to get married if you want kids! To make kids all you have to do is sex"
"i 100% believe gay marriage is beautiful."
"Love is Love and we shouldn't be judged for who we love. I personally have friends that are bi and lez and they deserve to marry who they love and cherise. POINT BLANK."
"They should be able to get married! It's there rights to love and marry who they want!"
"You do not have to believe gay marriage is good. You have to understand that it cannot be illegal.Let me explain.The reason you oppose gay marriage is because your religion tells you it is bad. That's fine. However, in this country there is a separation of religion and government, meaning laws are not and cannot be made based on religion. If gay marriage is illegal, the government, has combined religion with government, violating the first amendment right to freedom of religion."
"I think Gay marriage should be legal because when you find that right person that you want to spend the rest of your life with nobody should be able to stop you. It's YOUR life YOUR choice."
"LOVE IS LOVEThere are people starving, being excessively abused, dying of illness, why are we spending any of our time worrying about which human gets to marry which human?"
"I believe gay marriage should be legalized because it is something to reunites a couple. Just as heterosexual couples, we too, should be able to be happy and exchange last names."
"Everyone deserves the love of their life. I am disgusted that anyone could find anything immoral about that."
"This is part of what i wrote for my english essay.Unwanted and teen pregnancy has greatly increased the number of kids in the "system". Allowing same-sex marriage will not only give children a safe, secure home, but will also create a more hopeful and enriching environment. Since 2000, the number of children adopted by married same-sex couples has doubled. In the United States, the adoption rates have skyrocketed because of same-sex marriage. Of the 120,000 children in the United States Foster Care system, 8,300 have been adopted by homosexual partners before 2000. With the now rising number of states legalizing same-sex marriage, 21,700 more children have been adopted just by married same-sex partners after 2000. Gay adoption has also shown to give children that are adopted by such couples a more realistic view on life. Most children adopted by gay couples have also said that they now can understand more useful topics and they have proven to be more successful in life.Too many children in foster care are falling through cracks, so be a hero. Gay marriage can only do one thing for these kids, help."
"People should love who they want to love without being judged for it. It doesn't matter if it is against god! I am a christian too people! But I don't discriminate. It is cruel to say it is wrong. There are many things in the bible that we ignore! The bible was written in the olden days- when people were very, very close minded about everything."
"Love is love. Marriage is marriage. Happiness is happiness. The fact that society has the audacity to put restrictions on some ones happiness is just absurd. Being gay is not a choice, you cannot just simply chose to be gay. Gay is developing feelings for the same sex.. In this world you think every one is going to be the same, have feelings for the other gender? No! God made us who we are for a reason. We can learn to except it, and embrace it, which most of us do and that's why we have the battle we have now for gay rights.. Same sex marriage is a civil right. all I have to say."
"Alright. Addressing the financial arguments: Perhaps allowing gay marriage will cost some extra money, but it also took a huge toll on the economy when we ended slavery. We still did it because it was the right thing to do. Addressing the sanctity of marriage aspects: Marriage is a sacred as you make it. It is a commitment between your loved one and yourself. No one getting divorced or married is going to change the institution within your household. Just like other people eating fattening food hasn't led to your hips doubling in size. "Traditional Marriage"? Marriage in bible times consisted of "Give me the ox and you can have my daughter. If she doesn't bleed the first time you have sex, we can stone her to death." And who in the hell cares if gay people aren't reproducing. Do the words hunger, poverty, orphans, foster children, and deforestation due to over-crowding populations mean anything to you?"
"I don't see how what other's do affects the people are against it ."